Traded Bryce Gibbs [traded to Adelaide] - (cont. in Part 2)

[SexyBlueGirl]

LOL at you guys thiking you fleeced us for two frist rounders, while returning your second, which will be about 5 picks later.

Dont be under any illusion. You got one first round pick and an upgrade on your 2nd

16 & 18 and we get back Carltons future second rounder

Vomit.
Would rather nothing.

lol.

 

[DangerSloane]

lol.

Misunderstood what he said, a bit like SOS when he tried to add that extra draft pick.
I thought he was saying we'd have to swap 2nd rounders as well.

 

[le dominateur]

Very happy to take the Lever picks off Adelaide. Gibbs loss maybe weakens Carlton shorterm, not sure he is what Adelaide needs to take the next step, they had a dozen or more very soft players on GF day so adding another one is hardly likely to make a difference. Can see Crows supporters turning on Gibbs when he has his down games.

 

[DangerSloane]

Very happy to take the Lever picks off Adelaide. Gibbs loss maybe weakens Carlton shorterm, not sure he is what Adelaide needs to take the next step, they had a dozen or more very soft players on GF day so adding another one is hardly likely to make a difference. Can see Crows supporters turning on Gibbs when he has his down games.

Gibbs isnt soft. You know that, you've watched him long enough.

We had a lot of guys play awful on GF day, but I wouldnt say we have a soft team.

You'll do well from the picks, will set you up bigtime.

 

[SexyBlueGirl]

Misunderstood what he said

 

[JVseven]

I thought Crows would have taken those picks to the draft to develop younger players for other clubs.

 

[Tiger2709]

I would think its a pretty even deal really, maybe Adelaide paid a little extra but it should be worth it in the long run, Carlton have good picks but still have to use them so no guarantees there, overall both clubs should be fairly happy.

 

[chunkylover53]

Really wish the Carlton fans in here would stop ****ing gloating. We gained 2 first rounders but we're every chance to butcher them whilst Gibbs could be the difference for an Adelaide flag.

It's a win-win.

 

[DangerSloane]

I thought Crows would have taken those picks to the draft to develop younger players for other clubs.

Classic stuff.
Try making the finals before you get mouthy lol.

 

[Tiger2709]

I thought Crows would have taken those picks to the draft to develop younger players for other clubs.

You should know picks in the draft dont always deliver you still have to pick the right players, 1.Scully 2.Trengrove 3.Martin

 

[plentyblckie]

F

Yep, Deledio was indestructable for the first 8-9 years and was the youngest 250 game player ever for our club... I thought he’d hit 400

Port of vic..says a bloke whose club is known as eatibg their own and the biggest feral support in state.

 

[plentyblckie]

You should know picks in the draft dont always deliver you still have to pick the right players, 1.Scully 2.Trengrove 3.Martin

Tambling?

 

[2006_Eagles]

Adelaide probably paid slightly overs

Compounded by when they got reemed by Geelong for Danger

 

[Crow till I die]

You do realise the pick swap means its a first rounder and about a 5 or 6 pick downgrade next year.

Thats like saying you paid $20k for a car, when there was a $5k discount offer.
No, you paid $15k for the car.

can you explain how it is a 1st rounder and a pick swap considering we have given up 2 x 1st round picks + 2018 second round pick + small change for Gibbs and Carltons 2018 2nd round pick + 2018 3rd round pick

 

[DangerSloane]

can you explain how it is a 1st rounder and a pick swap considering we have given up 2 x 1st round picks + 2018 second round pick + small change for Gibbs and Carltons 2018 2nd round pick + 2018 3rd round pick

Because their 3rd is like our 2nd.
Our 1st is like their 2nd.
They're only a few places apart.

You gotta take you mind off "first rounders and second rounders and look at the numbers"

Crows get: Gibbs, approx 21 in 2018 and approx 40 in 2018
Crows lose: 10, 16, approx pick 35 and approx pick 60 (which we likely wouldnt use).

So in reality its Gibbs for 10 and two minor downgrades. (Graphic below)

 

[Tiger2709]

Tambling?

Yeah exactly but I would say Melbourne not even interviewing Martin while picking two.players that are no longer at Melbourne is now the biggest miss of all time and we did get a first and second rounder for Tambling from Adelaide in the end.

 

[Tiger2709]

F

Port of vic..says a bloke whose club is known as eatibg their own and the biggest feral support in state.

Is that the same club that just won the flag

 

[DangerSloane]

Is that the same club that just won the flag

You've been waiting to use that line for a long time hey?
I like it (would've liked it a whole lot more if it wasnt us you beat)

 

[Crow till I die]

Because their 3rd is like our 2nd.
Our 1st is like their 2nd.
They're only a few places apart.

You gotta take you mind off "first rounders and second rounders and look at the numbers"

Crows get: Gibbs, approx 21 in 2018 and approx 40 in 2018
Crows lose: 10, 16, approx pick 35 and approx pick 60 (which we likely wouldnt use).

So in reality its Gibbs for 10 and two minor downgrades. (Graphic below)
View attachment 429999

I see what you mean - although the caveat is that we finish at the pointy end and Carlton finish down the bottom or around it

 

[pinot]

Thanks - but Reids pen at end of trade was even better.

Just kidding - Gibbs is quality and will be weaker without him

 

[GordonBlue]

After we completed the other trades, the summary for Carlton is:

Out: Gibbs + 40 + '18 2nd + '18 3rd
In: Pick 10 + Pick 30 + '18 Crows 2nd + '18 Dogs 2nd + Kennedy

That is truly amazing deal for Carlton. You cannot squeeze any more from that.

 

[DangerSloane]

I see what you mean - although the caveat is that we finish at the pointy end and Carlton finish down the bottom or around it

Correct. But thats more likely than not likely.

 

[Monkey King]

After we completed the other trades, the summary for Carlton is:

Out: Gibbs + 40 + '18 2nd + '18 3rd
In: Pick 10 + Pick 30 + '18 Crows 2nd + '18 Dogs 2nd + Kennedy

That is truly amazing deal for Carlton. You cannot squeeze any more from that.

Yup. Might even be able to squeeze it a bit further next year, depending on where the Crows and WBs finish, and use those future second rounders to trade back into the first round. You never know. Said all year SOS plays several moves ahead and works more off net gains than individual trades. I hate losing Gibbs tbh, but he’s done a pretty good job here.

 

[scarecrow2k1]

Because their 3rd is like our 2nd.
Our 1st is like their 2nd.
They're only a few places apart.

You gotta take you mind off "first rounders and second rounders and look at the numbers"

Crows get: Gibbs, approx 21 in 2018 and approx 40 in 2018
Crows lose: 10, 16, approx pick 35 and approx pick 60 (which we likely wouldnt use).

So in reality its Gibbs for 10 and two minor downgrades. (Graphic below)
View attachment 429999

Great graphic and makes the deal seem a lot more even than my initial thoughts.

My concern with it is that it assumes Carlton don't improve, and they are a strong change to gain a few ladders spots.

In isolation I'd say Adelaide paid overs, but if you factor in the rest of the draft period, including signifcant wins in the deals for Lever and Cameron, then it ends up a pretty succesful trade period

 

[DangerSloane]

After we completed the other trades, the summary for Carlton is:

Out: Gibbs + 40 + '18 2nd + '18 3rd
In: Pick 10 + Pick 30 + '18 Crows 2nd + '18 Dogs 2nd + Kennedy

That is truly amazing deal for Carlton. You cannot squeeze any more from that.

You've done well, but lets not forget you've gone backwards for the next two years.
I still think thats the right call though.