Buddy's developing place on the All-Time Ladder

[Argy]

Another way of looking at it ....

Hawthorn FC Ranking
Rank>Total Games>Total Goals>Name

1. 129, 727, Peter Hudson
2. 159, 294, Jarryd Roughead
3. 161, 520, Lance Franklin
4. 170, 383, Alec Albiston
5. 189, 427, Dermott Brereton
6. 213, 475, John Peck
7. 224, 629, Michael Moncrieff
8. 269, 1254, Jason Dunstall
9. 332, 915, Leigh Matthews
10. 426, 320, Michael Tuck

Interesting that in his whole career at Hawthorn Brereton only played about one season's worth of games more than Buddy has so far. And Hudson played about two seasons less than Bud. Wow!

 

[MinerBoy]

Hudson's record is ridiculous.

 

[IdiotBox]

So, realistically - barring injury or extended MRT holiday (touch wood!!!) - he might just sneak into the top 30 this year above Modra. And probably 3+ years to catch Hudson to crack the top 3 for the Hawks.

 

[WWSD]

Another way of looking at it ....

Hawthorn FC Ranking
Rank>Total Games>Total Goals>Name

1. 129, 727, Peter Hudson
2. 159, 294, Jarryd Roughead
3. 161, 520, Lance Franklin
4. 170, 383, Alec Albiston
5. 189, 427, Dermott Brereton
6. 213, 475, John Peck
7. 224, 629, Michael Moncrieff
8. 269, 1254, Jason Dunstall
9. 332, 915, Leigh Matthews
10. 426, 320, Michael Tuck

You know if Roughead stays injury free, he could be in the top 6 Hawthorn goal kickers of all time when he retires. That would be a great effort from Roughead.

 

[Hawkas1988]

Hudson's record is ridiculous, imagine if he had of played 250-300 games.

Also I know very little of Micky Moncrieff, I knew he was a gun forward but what sort of player was he for those of you that got to see him live??

He doesn't get mentioned much in the same vein as some other Hawks greats, is he underrated?

 

[walhawk]

Hudson's record is ridiculous, imagine if he had of played 250-300 games.

Also I know very little of Micky Moncrieff, I knew he was a gun forward but what sort of player was he for those of you that got to see him live??

He doesn't get mentioned much in the same vein as some other Hawks greats, is he underrated?

Gladys was very under-rated.
Kicked 97 goals in 1976, then played the whole season at FB when Hudson returned in 1977, then kicked 90 in 1978.
Lead and mark type. Brilliant kick for goal.

 

[Guardian Hawk]

Just thought I would pop into this thread again (I have been keeping an eye on it all this time) and say a big thank you to Linda Crescent (not sure how to tag?) who has been doing the updates for some time now. You do a great job and it is wonderful to continue seeing Buddy's developing place. Thanks again.

 

[Thaihawk]

Peter Hudson's record in AFL/VFL is similar to Don Bradman's in world cricket. (Maybe not quiet as impressive though.)

 

[Gene Simmons]

You know if Roughead stays injury free, he could be in the top 6 Hawthorn goal kickers of all time when he retires. That would be a great effort from Roughead.

Hopefully we can see him more in the forward line splitting a pack and taking a grab!

 

[Linda Crescent]

So, realistically - barring injury or extended MRT holiday (touch wood!!!) - he might just sneak into the top 30 this year above Modra. And probably 3+ years to catch Hudson to crack the top 3 for the Hawks.

Spot 0n!

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Hudson's record is ridiculous.

Even more ridiculous when you factor in his Tassie records. Kicked around 2109 goals in his career, many of them 3 stone overweight and one one leg. Greatest full forward of all time, the only one who comes close is SA's Ken Farmer who booted 100 goals 11 seasons in a row.

 

[WWSD]

+5

527 Career Goals.

 

[beta_condition]

Taking down John Coleman next week.

 

[Upgrayedd]

4th highest current goal-kicker, Not bad at all.

 

[Benji McPherson]

There is no way Buddy is even top 10 hawks players of all time. In my mind, a player can't even begin to be considered for that unless they bust a sweat every game. I don't care what other statistics you throw up.

Buddy needs to step up and play like a Jonathon Brown, Rob Harvey, Jason Dunstall, Gary Ablett Jr, Nathan Buckley, Sam Mitchell... champions who sweat every single game they play(ed)!

 

[Goodo73]

Not to dispute your point Benji, but that's not the focus of this thread.

 

[Lord Mud of Glenferrie]

Hudson's record is ridiculous.

Hudson was ridiculous.

 

[Lord Mud of Glenferrie]

Even more ridiculous when you factor in his Tassie records. Kicked around 2109 goals in his career, many of them 3 stone overweight and one one leg. Greatest full forward of all time, the only one who comes close is SA's Ken Farmer who booted 100 goals 11 seasons in a row.

Good to see you keep faith with your own state players. I will give a plug for Ray Hughson from Western Districts in Brisbane. Google his record. He is in the top 15 Full Forwards I have seen. Sam's grandfather ken was no slouch either. Both are in the Qld. team of the century and hall of fame team. Queensland's goal kicking medal is named after Ray Hughson. I will always give a plug for the locals.

 

[Lord Mud of Glenferrie]

There is no way Buddy is even top 10 hawks players of all time. In my mind, a player can't even begin to be considered for that unless they bust a sweat every game. I don't care what other statistics you throw up.

Buddy needs to step up and play like a Jonathon Brown, Rob Harvey, Jason Dunstall, Gary Ablett Jr, Nathan Buckley, Sam Mitchell... champions who sweat every single game they play(ed)!

Hudson never raised a sweat in 1977. Would spend half the game leaning against the goal posts gasping for breath and still kicked over 100 goals. Whenever the name Peter Hudson appears my keyboard goes into overdrive.

 

[Todman]

Peter Hudson - 1962 - 120 - Upper Derwent - Southern Districts FL
Peter Hudson - 1963 - 079 - New Norfolk - Tasmanian FL
Peter Hudson - 1964 - 111 - New Norfolk - Tasmanian FL
Peter Hudson - 1965 - 131 - New Norfolk - Tasmanian FL.
Peter Hudson - 1966 - 140 - New Norfolk - Tasmanian FL
Peter Hudson - 1967 - 057 - Hawthorn - VFL
Peter Hudson - 1968 - 125 - Hawthorn - VFL
Peter Hudson - 1969 - 120 - Hawthorn - VFL
Peter Hudson - 1970 - 146 - Hawthorn - VFL
Peter Hudson - 1971 - 150 - Hawthorn - VFL
Peter Hudson - 1972 - 008 - Hawthorn - VFL
Peter Hudson - 1973 - 008 - Hawthorn - VFL
Peter Hudson - 1974 - 003 - Hawthorn - VFL
Peter Hudson - 1975 - 076 - Glenorchy - Tasmanian FL.
Peter Hudson - 1976 - 116 - Glenorchy - Tasmanian FL.
Peter Hudson - 1977 - 110 - Hawthorn - VFL
Peter Hudson - 1978 - 191 - Glenorchy - Tasmanian FL.
Peter Hudson - 1979 - 209 - Glenorchy - Tasmanian FL.
Peter Hudson - 1980 - 030 - Glenorchy - Tasmanian FL.

 

[moginie]

Lord Mud of Glenferrie or Adelaide Hawk

Hudson's return to Hawthorn in 1973 is legendary.

Can either of you remember what circumstances forced his return again in 1974?

 

[theonico]

Has someone noticed someone different about buddy accuracy?? 11-4, must be trying to get a better contract or something.

 

[IdiotBox]

I know you update the other current players later on Linda but FWIW, Nick Riewoldt kicked 3 against the Giants so he'll be on 529 now. Not that it matters as he'll be left in Buddy's dust from here on.

 

[entourage]

Sorry to chirp in, and personally I can't be bothered doing it, but has someone thought of comparing Buddy's goals at this point to other players when at the same age? For example, I've done a very rough calculation of Lockett's tally when we was about 26 and it comes to around 490. Now I'm not necessarily saying he's going to hit Lockett's record, but it's a damn good statistic if you ask me.

Anyhow, congrats on the win on the weekend, well and truly outplayed our boys.

 

[Linda Crescent]

^ 'Ron The Bear' - are you out there? Help required please?

'entouage' this has been done, the stats are somewhere deep in this thread. Sorry I can't help out. While a bit of fun, not a lot to prove in the excercise because each 26yr old would have played a different number of games.