Player Watch Callum Brown (Delisted 2022)

[domus]

I'm not defending Cal. He's a poor footballer who is symptomatic of a lack of depth. I just think his work rate, effort and thus pressure isn't matched by the kids out of the team and that's why he's getting games.

How about giving Harvey Harrison a go? He is quicker, strongly built and kicks further. If we can debut an undersized kid as a ruckman against the best in the comp could we not give another young bloke with plenty of pep a chance to be a defensive forward who could also snaffle a goal?

 

[sr36]

How about giving Harvey Harrison a go? He is quicker, strongly built and kicks further. If we can debut an undersized kid as a ruckman against the best in the comp could we not give another young bloke with plenty of pep a chance to be a defensive forward who could also snaffle a goal?

I hope so. Everyone is better with the ball than Cal. If they work as hard as him, they'll go well past him.

Begg works harder than Cox, I think that's why he was preferred.

I don't mind the philosophy of picking on workrate for the last couple of spots, as you're unlikely to get much in the way of offensive output either way. And in terms of development and getting the best out of our kids, workrate is what we need to encourage and reward.

 

[domus]

I hope so. Everyone is better with the ball than Cal. If they work as hard as him, they'll go well past him.

Begg works harder than Cox, I think that's why he was preferred.

I don't mind the philosophy of picking on workrate for the last couple of spots, as you're unlikely to get much in the way of offensive output either way. And in terms of development and getting the best out of our kids, workrate is what we need to encourage and reward.

I understand what you are saying but I watched Cal live today and some of his work with pill in hand was beyond bad for a player at this level. His one strength is being in and under and squirting out the occasional handpass but that doesn't compensate for the turnovers and lack of penetration with his kicks.

 

[sr36]

I understand what you are saying but I watched Cal live today and some of his work with pill in hand was beyond bad for a player at this level. His one strength is being in and under and squirting out the occasional handpass but that doesn't compensate for the turnovers and lack of penetration with his kicks.

I think it'll be his last season with us.

I don't even think those handballs are a strength - they're panicky releases that turnover as often as they hit.

He's not getting a game for what he does with the footy. He's getting a game for what he does without the footy.

 

[manicpie]

I think it'll be his last season with us.

I don't even think those handballs are a strength - they're panicky releases that turnover as often as they hit.

He's not getting a game for what he does with the footy. He's getting a game for what he does without the footy.

You actually have the answer as to why Cal is getting a game. It's up to the others to try and take it off him. I never really looked at it that way but you are spot on. Until the others can demonstrate an ability to be very good offensively, they won't get a game ahead of Callum because defensively, he has them covered atm

 

[sr36]

You actually have the answer as to why Cal is getting a game. It's up to the others to try and take it off him. I never really looked at it that way but you are spot on. Until the others can demonstrate an ability to be very good offensively, they won't get a game ahead of Callum because defensively, he has them covered atm

For us fans, the non-negotiable is executing basic skills, but for coaches, an even more important non-negotiable is helping the team to maintain pressure on the ball - our whole defensive system is built around trying to get kicks to get intercepted, which relies on pressure.

So until a guy like Finn Mcrae becomes a clearance beasty or ups those second and third efforts and stays in the contest to try to disrupt the opposition, Cal is likely to get selected ahead of him.

I think he'll be left out this week though, as McInness should replace JDG as the pace from deep forward and they'll want to bring Henry in with his tail up and there's not many to drop.

 

[Mollythedolly]

I would love to hear exactly what the role of individual players is. I don't think it would hurt to explain after the game. Fly made it clear that he wanted Callum playing today and was sweating over his availability. Given the angst his selection causes the vast majority of the fan base surely this would be helpful and at least soothe the frustration so many feel when he turns over another kick or fails to make the distance from forty out.

Didn’t Fly say he played his role?

 

[Mollythedolly]

How about giving Harvey Harrison a go? He is quicker, strongly built and kicks further. If we can debut an undersized kid as a ruckman against the best in the comp could we not give another young bloke with plenty of pep a chance to be a defensive forward who could also snaffle a goal?

Is HH quicker? I think Cal is pretty quick.

 

[sr36]

Is HH quicker? I think Cal is pretty quick.

Callum is extremely agile, so he's very quick in traffic, but his straight line running isnt quick.

 

[Kappa]

Last game for the club if we're serious.

Nice kid but simply will never be good enough to play AFL

 

[NS5!]

I never wanted to post and just liked jens info and training videos but couldnt hold my tongue! Yes maybe cal browns skills need work but he gives 110% for the jumper we love and no one can argue that like maybe we can for some others. Honestly some of the stuff said on this is just so harsh, these guys are still human beings lets give them a bit of a break and maybe if you believe something just keep it to yourself coz theres no need to make them feel crap on top of all the pressure they have already, just think how they'd feel reading some of this!

 

[NS5!]

While im at it thanks Jen2310 for all your hard work doesnt go unnoticed even by the ppl who dont post

 

[SuperSteele22]

Last game for the club if we're serious.

Nice kid but simply will never be good enough to play AFL

One of those unfortunate cases that's probably a bit too good for state footy but nowhere near good enough for AFL footy. Definition of a list clogger. Delist

 

[sr36]

Last game for the club if we're serious.

Nice kid but simply will never be good enough to play AFL

All our injuries are talls and he's currently in the team. I think he'll get dropped but he'll be back again later in the year if we get injuries because he's depth who provides a really consistent contest.

 

[The Phantom]

Panics regularly.
Finds himself in poor position because he puts himself there.
Poor decision making (this is what really does my head in for a 70 game player).
Executes disposal poorly.

If I’m the opposition coach, I’m hoping he has a 30 disposal game because the turnovers just come.
The chains of play he is part of just break.

Callum Beige and Tyler Taupe.
Enough.

 

[No SPIN]

I’m also trying hard to find positive things to say. Almost as hard as Cal.

His confidence is completely shot, given how capable he looked in 2019.
The hesitancy and indecision is palpable every time he gets the ball.

It’s time for a break from the game, or an extended time ie. 10 games in the VFL to restore his confidence.

One thing for sure is that he is quality kid, who doesn’t deserve the vitriol and the derision of so many fools on BF.

 

[gouki88]

His confidence is completely shot, given how capable he looked in 2019.
The hesitancy and indecision is palpable every time he gets the ball.

It’s time for a break from the game, or an extended time ie. 10 games in the VFL to restore his confidence.

One thing for sure is that he is quality kid, who doesn’t deserve the vitriol and the derision of so many fools on BF.

His confidence is definitely shot. I'm currently rewatching the first quarter (could only catch the second half live) and he looks headless. Such a nervous attack on the football. Gets a free kick on the wing and kicks it 5 metres before it dribbles into the dirt - the kick wouldn't have been 15m anyway even if he had made the distance.

He panics way too much to play senior level

 

[BLS World Wide]

It’s a performance driven industry saying he tries or imagine how he would feel reading comments is irrelevant.
They are meant to be professional athletes it’s clear he is by far the weakest link in the chain. He needs to pack up his stuff and go find another job. it’s that simple.

 

[Maggie5]

Cal was one of the players that was in doubt due to illness and it seems from the after game interview with the coach, he wanted him to play and was sweating on doctor report.

Pies see off challenge from Suns at about 4.30 mins in.

It’s a performance driven industry saying he tries or imagine how he would feel reading comments is irrelevant.
They are meant to be professional athletes it’s clear he is by far the weakest link in the chain. He needs to pack up his stuff and go find another job. it’s that simple.

It is absolutely relevant about the comments made by supporters about players. I don't see the point of using derogatory words that are unrelated to their playing and that address their character. Lazy use of words.

I was originally not a fan of Mayne and would often comment on his game but would refer to instances in the game where I thought his decision making was poor.

You can still be critical of a player without being demeaning.

 

[manicpie]

Cal was one of the players that was in doubt due to illness and it seems from the after game interview with the coach, he wanted him to play and was sweating on doctor report.

Pies see off challenge from Suns at about 4.30 mins in.


It is absolutely relevant about the comments made by supporters about players. I don't see the point of using derogatory words that are unrelated to their playing that address their character. Lazy use of words.

I was originally not a fan of Mayne and would often comment on his game but would refer to instances in the game where I thought his decision making was poor.

You can still be critical of a player without being demeaning.

it seems cal was sick all week but the coach was fairly desperate to get him in the side. A coach would'nt do that unless he really values that players role. As I said, it's up to the younger players who want his spot to prove they can do the defensive stuff required for that role. SR36 explained it perfectly, atm, there isn't anyone good enough to do his role

 

[Mollythedolly]

Callum is extremely agile, so he's very quick in traffic, but his straight line running isnt quick.

Not convinced. I’d like to see them go head to head. Do we know their 20m sprint times? Maybe someone who attends training could put the question to someone in the know.

 

[Mollythedolly]

All our injuries are talls and he's currently in the team. I think he'll get dropped but he'll be back again later in the year if we get injuries because he's depth who provides a really consistent contest.

If he didn’t get dropped of his game ANZAC day as the MS (amazing really given he apparently wasn’t even considered for the 22), what makes you think he’ll be dropped after yesterdays game which was a significant improvement?

 

[chestbrah]

Love his work rate and endeavour.

Yesterday I genuinely felt sorry for him. He lacks skill but a couple of moments you could see a real lack of confidence in him when he had the ball.

 

[sr36]

If he didn’t get dropped of his game ANZAC day as the MS (amazing really given he apparently wasn’t even considered for the 22), what makes you think he’ll be dropped after yesterdays game which was a significant improvement?

I think Jordy will be back in the midfield. Reef into the Jordy/Elliott role and they'll want to bring Henry back too. Even if only one of those occur, I think Callum is the most likely out.

 

[TheVillageIdiot7]

I think Jordy will be back in the midfield. Reef into the Jordy/Elliott role and they'll want to bring Henry back too. Even if only one of those occur, I think Callum is the most likely out.

Not so sure....
They may just go with Henry to play the FF role and bypass Reef all together.

back to callum....
He is clearly in the team for the defensive workrate (as you said earlier).
Its the staple of our gameplan and based on the coaches selections recently, they are valuing this in the fwd half over other attributes.

So can Reef / Henry provide the defensive pressure that Cal does?
doubtful.

is a very underrated role because it doesn't show up well on the stats sheet.
a bigger question on his influence was how many of his defensive efforts allowed us repeat I50's or shots on goal?

Given yesterday was our lowest total km's in a game (down by nearly 18kms from cats game)....i also think the coaches are worried about us running out of gas, so want players with better tanks. Just an opinion.

Not defending Cal because he is limited as an offensive player. But just providing an opinion that possessions & stats don't mean everything to someone's contribution to the side.....