Cameron Mooney

[The Casey Cat]

Lance Franklin - 73 goals in a non permiership year having played less games and about 8 yrs younger. Now who should have got the AA??

Is 5 goals in a 119 point thrashing anything to write home about.
Any CHF worth their salt will kick 4 on a quite day in a thrashing like that.

Mooney is a good player in a very good/great side. Nothing more, nothing less.

Is impressive but that does not come into it. Whilst Cam has only done enough to be labeled a 'good' player overall, Mooney's 2007 was extremely good. FFS when are people going to get over that Franklin was not picked? AA selection is always highly contentious. Brad Ottens had just as much right to be there but do you see Geelong fans carrying on or posting ignorant garbage about Brendon Lade all the time? Mooney had a fantastic year. Move on.

 

[geelong_boy]

So your saying he's in as good a form as last year
Not from the games i've seen.

While I agree that he's slightly down on form this year, I don't think his form early last year (ie. up to round 7) was outstanding. Sure he kicked 5 against Carlton in R2 but really he was in and out of games. By that I mean he'd kick a few goals in succession but not do much for the rest of the match.

Of course I'd love him to kick at least five goals every match but if you look at last year there weren't many games he kicked that many, he was moreso consistant over the course of the year. He'd kick a few every game but he had more goal assists/scoring assists than the others he was competiting with for that last All-Australian spot which was the reason he got the gig. Although I do agree it was a borderline decision.

 

[DemonJim]

To put it simply. If you give someone of the class of Buddy or Lucas, the exactly same situations that Cam got is 67 goals you will find they would have kicked more... a lot more. Although this isn't taking anything away from Cam. I had him in my DT last year and always polled a good 70-90 points which was great.


And for another argument, if you put Mooney in the Melbourne side he would get 30 for the year. And if you deny that you are an idiot! He is not as good as all you Cats fans think he is. Good yes, great no.

Time to open the other eye cats fans.

Geelong FC - The new bandwagon Essendons!

 

[The Casey Cat]

To put it simply. If you give someone of the class of Buddy or Lucas, the exactly same situations that Cam got is 67 goals you will find they would have kicked more... a lot more. Although this isn't taking anything away from Cam. I had him in my DT last year and always polled a good 70-90 points which was great.


And for another argument, if you put Mooney in the Melbourne side he would get 30 for the year. And if you deny that you are an idiot! He is not as good as all you Cats fans think he is. Good yes, great no.

Time to open the other eye cats fans.

Geelong FC - The new bandwagon Essendons!

Buddy or Lucas could NOT play the role Mooney did for Geelong last year. They both had exceptional years playing close to goal as opposed to Mooney who led up the ground was a major distributor also. Another one who did not watch Geelong closely enough last year and is being too simplistic.

 

[Animosity1989]

What has his form this season got to do with last season...9/10 ppl will agree he deserved his AA last yr.

I must be that one other then aye?

Mooney is a good player but because he is the no.1 target in a side with the best delivery in the AFL, he therefore appears much better than he actually is.

His form this year is no coincidence. Whilst Geelong have been winning, they havnt been nearly as dominant, Therefore delivery to Mooney hasn't been as good, therefore Mooney himself hasn't been as good.

He's a good player to have in your forward line but the way he is being compared to the best in the AFL and his selection in the All Australian side last year is really over-doing it.

Remember when West Coast had Cousins, Kerr and Judd and were winning nearly every game? Remember how Quintin Lynch got 65 goals? and now, he struggles to get 2 or 3 in a game.

Cameron Mooney is better than Quintin Lynch, but jeez, put him at West Coast and you won't see him in the All Australian side.

9/10 fans will agree with that.

 

[Animosity1989]

Scott Lucas was far superior to Mooney last year.

I'll second that, Lance Franklin was also far more deserving.

 

[The Casey Cat]

I'll second that, Lance Franklin was also far more deserving.

Well boo freaking hoo! Lance will get in this year so enough sooking Hawk fans gtf over it.

 

[tin can sam]

I'll second that, Lance Franklin was also far more deserving.

only player more deserving was Lucas.

Mooney should have been left out for him, not Franklin or Reiwoldt.

 

[The Casey Cat]

only player more deserving was Lucas.

Mooney should have been left out for him, not Franklin or Reiwoldt.

I could cop that yes. Lucas was massive and most importantly played closer to goal.

 

[Humpers]

Mooney is a good solid CHF however not AA standard IMO. Playing in an outstanding side has definitely helped his cause.

 

[B-HAWK 26]

who honestly cares about how they played on saturday night. It was only an exhibition game. But as for Mooney... the roos let him go so he obviously isnt that good.

 

[Tay29]

Lance Franklin - 73 goals in a non permiership year having played less games and about 8 yrs younger. Now who should have got the AA??

Is 5 goals in a 119 point thrashing anything to write home about.
Any CHF worth their salt will kick 4 on a quite day in a thrashing like that.

Mooney is a good player in a very good/great side. Nothing more, nothing less.

Can't get past the goals kicked can you? Same can be said for Lucas. You know what both are going to do when they get the ball. They'll go for goal. Mooney last year had almost 2 goal assists per game. That's at least another 40 goals he directly set up (Check out his profile on http://www.superfooty.com.au). How many direct assists do you think Buddy had? Can't be much as he's only managed 3 this season from 7 games. Mooney despite his indifferent form has had 13.

Mooney's influence around the ground last year was much more profound than Franklin. Go look at his possession and marks if you want proof. Sad to see that the better team player is being crucified by idiots who can only look at one stat.

 

[Animosity1989]

only player more deserving was Lucas.

Mooney should have been left out for him, not Franklin or Reiwoldt.

Oh yeah i forgot about Riewoldt. How the hell did Mooney get in anyway??

Mooney, Franklin, Lucas and Riewoldt all had good years. They picked Mooney because he was in a successful side that year. Which is wrong because All Australian selection is an individual award.

It really doesn't matter anymore anyway. What's done is done and no one can change the 2007 team now.

All we can do is hope for better decisions in the future.

 

[chapmanmagic35]

who honestly cares about how they played on saturday night. It was only an exhibition game. But as for Mooney... the roos let him go so he obviously isnt that good.

Gary Ablett wasn't that good because Hawthorn let him go.

See, how stupid does ^^^ sound?

Clubs let players go all the time. Do you think Carlton reckon Kennedy is a dud? No, they let him go to get Judd.

The 'roos traded Mooney (and picks) to get Colbert.

Anyone saying Mooney is a dud has no idea. It isn't worth getting into an argument about.

However, people saying he's a good player in a great side are closer to the mark.

Personally, he is a good footballer who brings others into the game and kicks goals (albeit not many this year thus far).

67 goals last year was a great return. The most kicked in a season since Ablett Snr at Geelong.

 

[Falchoon]

I love this bitterness from opposition supporters.Keep it up you whinging tosspots,it's fun reading.

whatever turns you on.

Ottens was more deserving than Mooney.

 

[BIGBEZ]

I love this bitterness from opposition supporters.Keep it up you whinging tosspots,it's fun reading.

Funny to write too, all you have to do is stick to facts and wait for the cat supporters replys!

 

[geelong_boy]

Funny to write too, all you have to do is stick to facts and wait for the cat supporters replys!

Yeah funny that, why isn't anyone who's critical of Mooney's AA selection quoting the 'fact' that while he, Franklin, and Lucas all kicked around the same number of goals Mooney was way in front when it comes to score/goal assists?

But anyway, long may this BF pissing contest continue.

 

[BIGBEZ]

Yeah funny that, why isn't anyone who's critical of Mooney's AA selection quoting the 'fact' that while he, Franklin, and Lucas all kicked around the same number of goals Mooney was way in front when it comes to score/goal assists?

But anyway, long may this BF pissing contest continue.

With the quality around Mooney, he only has to make a contest, the silky skilled stars around him make it look like 'goal assists'!

 

[rjslcM]

he is a bit isn't he...

good forward but still overated...

if geelong were crap he wouldn't be talked up so much

 

[geelong_crazy26]

geelong scored 300 points more than any other side last year,you cant do this unless you have a very good forward line which was lead by mooney.Mooney is easily better than lucas.

mooney got AA last year because of the goals he set up,when he kicked his goals,the physical presence he gave, the defensive pressure he provided and his ability to set up our small forwards.He out did both lucas and franklin in all of these departments last year

 

[Rubberducky]

It's true, being in a superior team has it's advantages. Statistically he was as good or better than Lucas, Buddy and Roo depending on which way you want to look at the statistics.

He wasn't selected because he played for Geelong, AA is an individual honor, it just helps when your team is as good as Geelong were last year. You get noticed more, you get on the end of better passes (although I think Moons in particular doesn't get the best delivery from our midfield), you get team mates running past and that leads to goal assists. Would Buddy or Lucas have been AA if they played for Geelong? You just can't say, but Mooney was AA and statistically he deserved selection.

AA isn't weighted on team success, but if you get more of the ball, you look a better player. Shall we start looking at % contribution to total scores to balance this out?

He hasn't been in the best form this year, missed some goals he should have kicked, given off a few but he's a massive part of the Geelong team and I think those that understand what it's like to have a player like Mooney on the team understand why he was AA in 2007 and just as much so despite average form played on the weekend.

 

[pivotal]

Mooney has had a disappointing season thus far with the Cats; his body language in some games has been outright strange, giving the impression that he is disinterested at times.

But no matter what he does with the rest of his career (and I hope he does plenty more of course), the fact remains he kicked 60+ goals in a Premiership year and bagged five in a Grand Final.

Some posters are suggesting that blind Freddie could have bagged five goals in last year's Grand Final such was the performance of Port Adelaide. But to say such things is to pay The Premiers no respect; the 119 point victory didn't just happen, Geelong had to go out there and MAKE IT HAPPEN. Mooney's role was crucial.

 

[bzparkes]

But you'd have to agree Lynch looks a hell of a lot worse atm than he did when he was on the end of the delivery of that superstar midfield yes?

He has been shocking this season.

Ridiculous. Lynch has been quite good this year. Kicking on goal's been poor but the rest of his game has been very good. Leads our inside 50's by a long way. Been playing like Richo has, as there's more reliable targets up forward for us at the moment.

Besides, Lynch kicked 68 goals in our premiership year. Should he have been AA?

 

[winty]

Lance Franklin - 73 goals in a non permiership year having played less games and about 8 yrs younger. Now who should have got the AA??

Is 5 goals in a 119 point thrashing anything to write home about.
Any CHF worth their salt will kick 4 on a quite day in a thrashing like that.

Mooney is a good player in a very good/great side. Nothing more, nothing less.

Why is everyone getting stuck on the amount of goals Mooney kicked? That's only one part of the equation. Last year Mooney kicked 67 goals, but set up 24. Franklin may have kicked 73, but he only set up 12, and Lucas kicked 61 and set up 18, so Mooney had a hand in more goals than both Franklin and Lucas did. Never mind the fact that Franklin conceded 3 times as many free kicks as he earnt, and conceded 16 more free kicks than Mooney did.

Last year Mooney kicked 4 goals on Glass and 3 on Rutten, who most people consider as two of the best full backs in the league, so is it really a surprise he only kicked 1 on Scarlett on Saturday night, considering his form this year is not as good as it was last year and Scarlett is on par with Rutten and Glass?

 

[Dee UK]

I can't believe so many people have made negative comments about Mooney.

I think he's quality player - full stop