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Good for you. That being said, you're still 14th-18th on the youth ladder.
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Can Hawthorn succeed while ignoring the elite end of the draft? - Part 2
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Really?
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Absolutely.
Isn't amazing and no one is saying it is. Isn't terrible either.
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Sure, but 14th-18th on the youth ladder.
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I would much rather be in Geelong's position right now than Collingwood.
That may be true, but it is hard to assess when so few of them are getting senior games. VFL form can be misleading (as much as I'd not like it to be, 100+ win to Box Hill against North (who don't have many AFL listed players) followed by 84 point win against Carlton). In any case, I think it is probably pointless comparing clubs at different stages of the cycle in this regard.
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But how long has it been since Carlton played finals?
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Your two best mids are 33 and 30, and you don't have a key forward. Stones in glass houses etc etc.
20 years even.
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This appears to be your only response to any criticism of Collingwood's list. A bit sad.
Maybe.
Parfitt
Henry
Clark
Holmes
Simpson
Close
Myers
SavRat
Narkel
All are seeing a bit, and I think all could potentially be good players. Some maybe excellent.
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The best of our youth hasn't debuted yet.
Well I would say SDK and Holmes are the best youth on our list, and each have debuted.
But yeah. Maybe Cooper really nails it when he gets going.
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Cooper is the one.
Here's hoping.
Yes, you've had a few in the 22 and 23 year old range that have been getting games (Parfitt, Henry, Simpson, Close,Miers, SavRat, Narkle). Very decent players.
However in the under 22 bracket really only Clark has been given a decent run. Holmes has played only 1 game. I'm sure a bunch of your 21 and under players will be decent, we've just seen a little more of ours than yours. Which makes complete sense of course, this isn't a criticism. You guys competing means that the 18-21 group at Geelong just hasn't got the exposure they'd get at a club that was at the opposite end of the ladder would have. We had players like Sicily play a LOT of games at VFL level for similar reasons. When you eventually bottom out (if you ever do, I'm losing hope of seeing that in my lifetime at the moment
), you'll end up with a bunch of players that people will tell you are no good because if they were they'd have already broken into the side, and while that is sometimes true, there are definitely exceptions , especially when your senior team is strong enough to be playing in grand finals.
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Agreed.Yes, you've had a few in the 22 and 23 year old range that have been getting games (Parfitt, Henry, Simpson, Close,Miers, SavRat, Narkle). Very decent players.
However in the under 22 bracket really only Clark has been given a decent run. Holmes has played only 1 game. I'm sure a bunch of your 21 and under players will be decent, we've just seen a little more of ours than yours. Which makes complete sense of course, this isn't a criticism. You guys competing means that the 18-21 group at Geelong just hasn't got the exposure they'd get at a club that was at the opposite end of the ladder would have. We had players like Sicily play a LOT of games at VFL level for similar reasons. When you eventually bottom out (if you ever do, I'm losing hope of seeing that in my lifetime at the moment
I guess the difference when I look at the Hawks current list is the staggering number of very late picks and rookies etc.
It makes it even harder to think they are likely to make it.
I don't see a lot of difference there, and the difference I see favours us. You've got nobody under 21 who was picked higher than 15. 70% of them were outside of the first round. I've got more confidence that a player like Kosi who was picked in the third round but has kicked 12 goals in 9 games in a ball starved forward line will make it than all your 0 gamers in the sub 22 bracket. Ditto for our players picked before 15 like Will Day and DGB. Like I said, I'm sure some of your 0 gamers will make it (as I'm hoping our top 10 pick 0 gamer will), its not the kids fault that Geelong have a bunch of older talent keeping them in contention and as a result, keeping the kids out of the side. Some will be grabbing their chances at some point, I'm sure.
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Please close this thread now!!! I can’t deal with our supporters embarrassing themselves anymore...at least we can celebrate a win against the bye next week.
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