Can the Eagles do it?

[rhys_22]

I also must of missed the finals campaigns Naitanui, Kennedy, McKenzie, Schofield, Gaff, S.Selwood, Shuey and Darling played in

Ummmm ben reid is a premiership player. He played with a broken leg. Get your facts right.you're embarassing yourself.

 

[Copernicus]

I think the Eagles will push the Pies, but ultimately I reckon the Pies will be too well-drilled and finals-hardened. Last week was an aberration, no doubt. I do think the Eagles will make it to the PF, though. I can't see them losing at home to either of Carlton or Essendon.

 

[David the Cat]

Ummmm ben reid is a premiership player. He played with a broken leg. Get your facts right.you're embarassing yourself.

I think he also picked up a few spinal fractures during that game too. You Collingwood guys are so tough

 

[Jesus Baulks]

Nope, just the cracked fibula

 

[MagpieJoel]

I think WC can win. Collingwood aren't quite bleeding but they are wounded. Tarrant, Davis, Shaw, Maxwell, Thomas all either missing or underdone. Dawes, Wellingham, Didak all in ordinary form.
WC have 2 of the very best rucks in the comp, a very serviceable midfield group and defence + a multi-pronged, in form attack.
I think I might have a lazy $50 on WC to get up.

Didak - Averaging close to 30 possies for the last 3-4 weeks.
Dawes - kicked 2 goals last week.
Tarrant - rolled his ankle, so what? Never done that before?
Davis - has been in sparking form all season. He will be fine.
Shaw - has trained his arse of for 8 weeks. There is no way in hell he will be underdone.
Maxwell - he won't be underdone, but his hand will be a concern.
Thomas - not much we can do about that.
Wellingham - definitely underdone.

 

[Pea Barrel]

I'd think our 2006 team would beat our current side nine times out of ten. That's probably just me though...

Our '06 side would beat any current side 9 times out of 10.

 

[Pea Barrel]

now i'll just sit back and cop abuse for being arrogant filth

It's not arrogance. It's confidence. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Pea Barrel]

Nope, just the cracked fibula

I've had one of those. Twice. It's painful for sure, but you can still run around.

 

[TheLip]

In the ruck department last week, Darren Jolly looked like a 45yr old man, who is clearly underdone with Cameron Wood as a back up and Leigh Brown who is anything but a ruckman.

I'm very suprised Wood has been dropped and not even named as an EMG to cater against the almighty Cox/NN combo. Mick trying to play mind games during the week with their ruck combination.

Very happy with that result as an Eagles fan, and even happier Maxwell has been recalled who is underdone also.

Hard to imagine why anybody who saw the Eagles with a dominant ruck combination go down to the Pies by 50+ points last time would imagine they'd go better in a game of water polo. Go figure!

 

[krisholio14]

Our '06 side would beat any current side 9 times out of 10.

I'd back 2011 us against 2006 you for more than 1 win in 10.

 

[Pea Barrel]

I'd back 2011 us against 2006 you for more than 1 win in 10.

You might have a point there. 8 out of 10 against you lot?

 

[bzparkes]

Hard to imagine why anybody who saw the Eagles with a dominant ruck combination go down to the Pies by 50+ points last time would imagine they'd go better in a game of water polo. Go figure!

The area that let us down against the pies last time was our entries into the forward 50, just bombed it into there every single time. The pies are awesome at rebounding so that's what really killed us. We matched them in every area except the score, so I think if we can actually kick to targets instead of just bombing the ball in then it'll be a closer result.

 

[TheLip]

The area that let us down against the pies last time was our entries into the forward 50, just bombed it into there every single time. The pies are awesome at rebounding so that's what really killed us. We matched them in every area except the score, so I think if we can actually kick to targets instead of just bombing the ball in then it'll be a closer result.

lol. So the only area you got beaten in was the only one that counts! Hope thet helps you sleep at night!

 

[richy4]

lol. So the only area you got beaten in was the only one that counts! Hope thet helps you sleep at night!

did you even watch that game?

Statistically it was the only area we got beaten convincingly. You simply had better entry into your forward 50 and took your chances far better than we did.

 

[TheLip]

did you even watch that game?

Statistically it was the only area we got beaten convincingly. You simply had better entry into your forward 50 and took your chances far better than we did.

Yes I did but the comment was OT. The point I made was that it's unlikely that a ruck division which beat us in a game where we smashed you by 50+ points in the dry is going to be the deciding factor in a game where it's likely to be wet. Regardless of that, 50+ points is almost always an indicator of far more than just one side having an off day with their kicking but if it makes you happy then go with that. I would!

 

[richy4]

Yes I did but the comment was OT. The point I made was that it's unlikely that a ruck division which beat us in a game where we smashed you by 50+ points in the dry is going to be the deciding factor in a game where it's likely to be wet. Regardless of that, 50+ points is almost always an indicator of far more than just one side having an off day with their kicking but if it makes you happy then go with that. I would!

So if the forward entries are basically even and it's a 50 point margin what would you put it down to?

We didn't really dominate the ruck, ball was constantly going to your players.

Anyway you beat us, but i think it will be much closer this week as we have improved a lot since that game. Should be a good game

 

[TheLip]

So if the forward entries are basically even and it's a 50 point margin what would you put it down to?

Probably have to suggest pure class I guess.

We didn't really dominate the ruck, ball was constantly going to your players.

I think you'll find that the comment I responded to was about the superiority of your ruck combo and I'm also fairly confident you'll find most people reckon you dominated the ruck in that game.

Anyway you beat us, but i think it will be much closer this week as we have improved a lot since that game. Should be a good game

Hopefully we have too!

 

[bzparkes]

Yes I did but the comment was OT. The point I made was that it's unlikely that a ruck division which beat us in a game where we smashed you by 50+ points in the dry is going to be the deciding factor in a game where it's likely to be wet. Regardless of that, 50+ points is almost always an indicator of far more than just one side having an off day with their kicking but if it makes you happy then go with that. I would!

We didn't have an off day with kicking, it was poor decision making kicking into the f50. Obviously that's not the ony reason we lost by 50 points but it doesn't help the cause very much. We've had games this year where we've been behind in most stats but won by 50 points, that's due to efficiency and good decision making. Just goes to show how much stats can lie sometimes.

But if you want to interpret that as "OMG, pies are shit and didn't win last game, Eagles lost it. Pies out in straight sets!!!11!1!!1!" then be my guest

 

[TheLip]

We didn't have an off day with kicking, it was poor decision making kicking into the f50. Obviously that's not the ony reason we lost by 50 points but it doesn't help the cause very much. We've had games this year where we've been behind in most stats but won by 50 points, that's due to efficiency and good decision making. Just goes to show how much stats can lie sometimes.

But if you want to interpret that as "OMG, pies are shit and didn't win last game, Eagles lost it. Pies out in straight sets!!!11!1!!1!" then be my guest

What you've just said pretty much sums up what I have been getting at. Just because you can match another side in stats doesn't mean you can beat them. There are plenty of factors that are going to come into play and the fact that the score difference was so wide just proves that. If you get the same number of disposals as your opposition but they're all under pressure then the likelihood is they're not going to be as effective. Can't see where you're disagreeing with what I was saying actually!

 

[fpm84]

So Ben Reid looks like he won't play. Huge bonus for the Eagles.

If the conditions don't limit Kennedy, Darling and Lynch they should be able to get on top of Collingwood's backline.

Collingwood will need its midfield to be at its best.

 

[WCE_Phill]

With or without Ried.

I fear a 10 goal flogging

Collingwood are a well oiled machine atm.

Hopefully our boys can learn from the game and strive to be like them very very soon.

 

[placebo]

Honestly, I expect us to a lose by about 8 goals.
Still, I'm excited to watch us play finals footy again regardless.

 

[Slattery_20]

Eagles appear to be pretty well settled & primed and have the talls to separate and conquer Collingwood's defence.
Pies have made quite a few changes the last 2 or 3 weeks; terrible loss last start but will come out with a bit to prove.

Should bring it back to being a much closer game than otherwise might have been.
Even at half time, Pies by 5 goals.

 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

I think the game will be fairly close with the Pies prevailing by 3-5 goals. Having said that I think the Eagles are capable of pulling it off.

If they did it would set up a huge knockout semi final between Collingwood and either Carlton or Essendon.

 

[shoe]

I've tipped the Pies, but there is always a chance in finals. Anything can happen.

Completely depends on our virginal youngsters and discovering if they have finals brains.

Pies in a good game IMO.