Carey on ABC Right now with Andrew Denton

[passthebottle]

Love to see half of the people flaming him on here be so condascending about Wayne to his face (or even his brothers for that matter).

Would there be violence?

He is responsible for his own actions.

I just felt through the whole interview that he was never totally honest.

I don't think Wayne is a simpleton and has been well aware of his actions off the field for along time.
It's just now that he is starting to realize that a footy club isn't going to get him out of the shit.

Good luck to him and i hope for his daughters sake he brakes the cycle.

 

[zero]

andrew denton is the best interviewer in australia, and by a long, long, long way. hes not judgemental, hes not confrontational, he just asks amazing questions

also, dont you love it when people say "i take full responsibility for my actions" then in the same sentence say "well that wasnt my fault, and really wasnt as bad as that anyway"

 

[On the Boyle]

I'm very disappointed with the Carey interview.
I know for a fact that he was unfaithful during his final years to his wife, and if it comes down to a defamation case, I can name the woman (and it's not Kate).
My family and I have known for over two years of Carey's Cocaine abuse, and he's been very dishonest about it in the interview - Every game that he commentated outside of his home state, he went through roughly $2K on Coke.
Again, if it comes to defamation, I can defend and embarrass Mr Carey.
I applaud him for having the guts to go on Denton - it would be a tough issue, but I think that Carey's far smarter than others would give him credit.
Denton was visibly hostile towards him last night, and I feel that even he was well aware that he was walking into a well rehearsed Carey. There wasn't a great deal of honesty about him in that interview. I'm not talking about "I didn't cheat" or "I don't remember kicking that officer" but this:

Denton: "What sort of father are you?"
Carey: "I like to think I'm a pretty good father..."

Later in the interview:
Denton: "So you and Kate had been up for 2 and a half days drinking and taking cocaine?"
Carey: "Yeah that's right..."

Sorry? Good Father?
Be honest with yourself Carey - then you've got a shot at being honest with others.

A good father doesn't risk the future of his child's happiness by taking dangerous mixtures of cocaine and booze. Nor does he have "2 and a half day benders".

I don't judge Carey for what he's done - god knows I've not been a saint, although I'm not quite in Carey's league.

But don't expect forgiveness if you're not repentant.

 

[Bombers_Forever]

Denton is a gun interviewer. No autocue to prompt for questions, just listening and asking the next one. I only watched the show for Denton, he is a class act

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

I love some of the tough guy responses in this thread. Wow he's a liar, wow he's pathetic, wow everything Wayne Carey says is false.

The story has tragedy written all over it from start to finish.

It has nothing to do with "tough guy" opinions. I refuse to feel sorry for people in positions of social advantage who stuff it all up and try to blame external forces. This guy had it all in the palm of his hand, everything any boy who ever played the game would love to have, and he stuffed it up.

Having people on this forum feel sorry for him isn't going to change the fact he's an arrogant fool whose actions should be discouraged and not tolerated in any way. He had plenty of warning signs over the years and he chose to ignore them. Only idiots do that.

 

[jenny61_99]

andrew denton is the best interviewer in australia, and by a long, long, long way. hes not judgemental, hes not confrontational, he just asks amazing questions

also, dont you love it when people say "i take full responsibility for my actions" then in the same sentence say "well that wasnt my fault, and really wasnt as bad as that anyway"

But here's the thing. You have believed what you've read. You don't know the truth, you weren't there. Isn't it just possible that the media have blown things out of proportion? Wouldn't be the first time would it? The fact that he's a well known target makes it even more likely.

The man has humbled himself and been man enough to put his hand up and say "yep, I'm responsible"... but he wants to take responsibility for things that actually happened, not the crap we've been served on a platter.

 

[Billy Bones]

I find claims of Careys arrogance to be completely puzzling.

What truly arrogant man would do what Carey did last night?

 

[jenny61_99]

I'm very disappointed with the Carey interview.
I know for a fact that he was unfaithful during his final years to his wife, and if it comes down to a defamation case, I can name the woman (and it's not Kate).
My family and I have known for over two years of Carey's Cocaine abuse, and he's been very dishonest about it in the interview - Every game that he commentated outside of his home state, he went through roughly $2K on Coke.
Again, if it comes to defamation, I can defend and embarrass Mr Carey.
I applaud him for having the guts to go on Denton - it would be a tough issue, but I think that Carey's far smarter than others would give him credit.
Denton was visibly hostile towards him last night, and I feel that even he was well aware that he was walking into a well rehearsed Carey. There wasn't a great deal of honesty about him in that interview. I'm not talking about "I didn't cheat" or "I don't remember kicking that officer" but this:

Denton: "What sort of father are you?"
Carey: "I like to think I'm a pretty good father..."

Later in the interview:
Denton: "So you and Kate had been up for 2 and a half days drinking and taking cocaine?"
Carey: "Yeah that's right..."

Sorry? Good Father?
Be honest with yourself Carey - then you've got a shot at being honest with others.

A good father doesn't risk the future of his child's happiness by taking dangerous mixtures of cocaine and booze. Nor does he have "2 and a half day benders".

I don't judge Carey for what he's done - god knows I've not been a saint, although I'm not quite in Carey's league.

But don't expect forgiveness if you're not repentant.

a) Didn't he admit to starting to use cocaine once he left the Crows? That was 3 and a half years ago. So what's the point you are making about his drug abuse?

b) He did not have full custody of his daughter, so can he not party when he doesn't have her? Who's to say he wasn't completely sober when he had her with him? Thousands of parents in this country abuse alcohol and or drugs when they are fully responsible for their children.

 

[dan warna]

lol if he was really going to face up to his issues he should return to america

 

[chicachow]

I don't know why anyone would be surprised that he maybe was out drunk and in a scuffle pulled a gun from a holster. He wasn't accused of aiming it or being threatening. I do remember an incident last year where a player was accused of being in a car that was shooting at the police with a person now accused of murder. He wasn't charged was he? But these blackouts are a great defense aren't they?

The ones I feel sorry for are Ella his daughter and all the innocent people related to these incidents. And I think Mr Carey Senior has a lot to answer for. Maybe his mother as well.

 

[~RFM~]

I watched most of the interview. I have not thought much of Carey ever since the boob groping incident way back when...but I have to admit, the interview had me feeling sorry for the guy.

I'm sure he was not completely candid, but I think this is in part, part of being a drug/alcohol abuser. He seems like a very unhappy man.

And let's face it his father sounds like an absolute ____. Can't have helped that's for sure.

 

[itsintheblood]

Don't know why anyone would feel sympathy for him.

Pretty transparent that's why he's on the show.

Drugs and booze aren't a reason for violence and acting like an arogant SOB, they're an excuse.

For the sake of the people around him I hope he gets his shit together but I won't hold my breathe.

He's got serious flaws in his character and i doubt very much if he'll ever change. Just didn't know what to believe and what not to believe. He's basically making all those witnesses out to be liars and even though Derrin Hinch's story sounded a bit whacky, Hinch is normally on the money with most things. Geez, I don't know what to believe and what not to believe with Carey. Was pretty low to put blame for the night's events solely on Kelly Stevens i thought. Should have not gone there.

I actually feel sorry for his little daughter. She'll grow up and realise what a champion footballer her father was but what a sad person he was off the field.

 

[dan warna]

a) Didn't he admit to starting to use cocaine once he left the Crows? That was 3 and a half years ago. So what's the point you are making about his drug abuse?

b) He did not have full custody of his daughter, so can he not party when he doesn't have her? Who's to say he wasn't completely sober when he had her with him? Thousands of parents in this country abuse alcohol and or drugs when they are fully responsible for their children.

oh so its ok to give custody of a child to a part time alcoholic and drug abuser

 

[Billy Bones]

Was pretty low to put blame for the night's events solely on Kelly Stevens i thought. Should have not gone there.

It's not low if it's the truth. He was asked about the event and stated that Kelli Stevens following him into a toilet is what led to the revelations of their affair becoming public.

Where I come from, following people in to toilets is rather odd behaviour.

No one else in this thread seems to think this is worthy of mentioning.

 

[chicachow]

Sure it's worth mentioning. Kelli is as much to blame as Wayne is for that incident. But as with every other accusation he blamed it on someone else or on being so drunk that he could not remember it and therefore questioning whether it really happened. He is still a man in denial and has a long way to go in his rehab.

 

[Billy Bones]

But as with every other accusation he blamed it on someone else or on being so drunk that he could not remember it and therefore questioning whether it really happened.

That is simply not correct.

 

[Omegaman]

I didn't follow the facts that closely, but wasn't the incident at Archer's house merely the event that brought things to light? If so, why does it matter who went in first? It would only be an argument over who blew their cover, otherwise the two of them would be as bad as each other

 

[Moti]

I'm very disappointed with the Carey interview.
I know for a fact that he was unfaithful during his final years to his wife, and if it comes down to a defamation case, I can name the woman (and it's not Kate).
My family and I have known for over two years of Carey's Cocaine abuse, and he's been very dishonest about it in the interview - Every game that he commentated outside of his home state, he went through roughly $2K on Coke.
Again, if it comes to defamation, I can defend and embarrass Mr Carey.
I applaud him for having the guts to go on Denton - it would be a tough issue, but I think that Carey's far smarter than others would give him credit.
Denton was visibly hostile towards him last night, and I feel that even he was well aware that he was walking into a well rehearsed Carey. There wasn't a great deal of honesty about him in that interview. I'm not talking about "I didn't cheat" or "I don't remember kicking that officer" but this:

Denton: "What sort of father are you?"
Carey: "I like to think I'm a pretty good father..."

Later in the interview:
Denton: "So you and Kate had been up for 2 and a half days drinking and taking cocaine?"
Carey: "Yeah that's right..."

Sorry? Good Father?
Be honest with yourself Carey - then you've got a shot at being honest with others.

A good father doesn't risk the future of his child's happiness by taking dangerous mixtures of cocaine and booze. Nor does he have "2 and a half day benders".

I don't judge Carey for what he's done - god knows I've not been a saint, although I'm not quite in Carey's league.

But don't expect forgiveness if you're not repentant.

On being a good father, any part time dad thinks they are whether they are or not. Particuarly when your child hood is like his, you might not have a good reference point. Just a matter of opinion.

 

[Daytripper]

Sure it's worth mentioning. Kelli is as much to blame as Wayne is for that incident. But as with every other accusation he blamed it on someone else or on being so drunk that he could not remember it and therefore questioning whether it really happened. He is still a man in denial and has a long way to go in his rehab.

I think he said "I'm sorry" or "Its my fault, I take full responsibility" some 20 times during the interview last night.

He also stated that in no way did he want to blame alcohol for any mistakes he had made. It was all his own fault.

I think perhaps you weren't really trying to listen to what he had to say.

 

[chicachow]

That is simply not correct.

I don't know what you were watching but in the interview with Denton last night Wayne lied, corrected himself often and generally blamed his drinking for everything including his drug use. He used drugs to drink more. I stick to my opinion that the man has a long long way to go in his rehab.
There is a full transcript in the heraldsun today if you want to go and read it.

 

[Billy Bones]

I didn't follow the facts that closely, but wasn't the incident at Archer's house merely the event that brought things to light?

I believe so.

If so, why does it matter who went in first?

Are you suggesting this was a pre arranged thing? Are you seriously suggesting that of all the places they could have a chat in private they would decide to do it in a friends toilet with a party full of people outside?

It would only be an argument over who blew their cover, otherwise the two of them would be as bad as each other

I'm not making a judgement call on their affair in my earlier reply, I think Wayne is telling the truth when he claims that her behaviour re the toilet led to the affair becoming public, yet amazingly, many people have twisted that around into thinking that Wayne takes no responsibility for his part in the affair.

 

[erical]

Same old story in every day society.
The bloke mucks up big time with grog so he blames his abusive Father who in turn will blame his abusive Father before him and so on and so on.Someone has to take the blame sometime?Maybe Young Ella will grow up and abuse her Kids?

 

[Billy Bones]

I don't know what you were watching but in the interview with Denton last night Wayne lied, corrected himself often and generally blamed his drinking for everything including his drug use.

I also believe Wayne lied about certain issues and not just to protect himself.

He used drugs to drink more. I stick to my opinion that the man has a long long way to go in his rehab.

I agree.

There is a full transcript in the heraldsun today if you want to go and read it.

Read it.

 

[Daytripper]

I don't know what you were watching but in the interview with Denton last night Wayne lied, corrected himself often and generally blamed his drinking for everything including his drug use. He used drugs to drink more. I stick to my opinion that the man has a long long way to go in his rehab.
There is a full transcript in the heraldsun today if you want to go and read it.

"There's no amount of alcohol or drugs that I blame on any decisions I've made and (there's) a consequence (for the) decisions I've made,'' Carey said.

 

[chicachow]

I think he said "I'm sorry" or "Its my fault, I take full responsibility" some 20 times during the interview last night.

He also stated that in no way did he want to blame alcohol for any mistakes he had made. It was all his own fault.

I think perhaps you weren't really trying to listen to what he had to say.

You are right he did say I take responsibilty at times. But I am saying that someone who truly has will not keep using it as an excuse. I really did try to listen to the interview with an open mind and I do feel for the man and for his family. My point is he has a long way to go before he gets better. He is in denial still.