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The way some people are behaving on this thread you'd think that Carey had rogered their wife and smashed a glass in their face.

Superb interview. Denton is without peer as an interviewer.

I think Carey was as honest as his psychological space allows him to be at this stage. There’s still a whole bunch of things he’s denial about though.

I actually felt very sorry for the bloke and admire him for having the balls to face a very searching public examination.

You'll never get Cousins doing that.

I wouldn't be surprised if he HAS rogered a few peoples wives/GF's here on BF!!!! :eek:
The guy was cheating with one of his best mates wives.......does it get any lower and could he possibly be more stupid???
 

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:thumbsdown: nice histrionics .......what a load :rolleyes:

"carey was a champion footballer", beloved this, beloved that......... - listen, carey's made many crap decisions, not just one, & who's throwing stones? many really do know that he's had this coming for YEARS.

Are you not throwing stones? Do you know the man personally? I've met him and was completely surprised at how genuinely lovely he was. He was shy and humble... both traits of which I saw in that interview.

Have you made the mistakes he has in his life? Have you owned up publicly like this, like he has? Have you experienced the ultimate highs followed by the deepest lows like he has? If you haven't, and you are passing judgement, then you are throwing stones. Nobody deserves to be ashamed of going to the grocery store to buy food. Nobody deserves to have all their dirty laundry aired so publicly. People make crap decisions every single day and they have to live with those consequences. Luckily for them they can do so without every single movement they make coming under a microscope. Wayne now has to live with the consequences of his actions under intense public scrutiny. This interview hopefully will relieve some of that pressure as people begin to understand that he is human, he has made mistakes, and he is beginning to take responsibility for those mistakes.
 
But here's the thing. You have believed what you've read. You don't know the truth, you weren't there. Isn't it just possible that the media have blown things out of proportion? Wouldn't be the first time would it? The fact that he's a well known target makes it even more likely.

Just too many instances for them all to have been blown out of proportion or not that serious, once or twice (or even 3 times) sure, but Carey had a reason or a denial or an extenuating circumstance for just about every incident.

Not buying it.
 
Just too many instances for them all to have been blown out of proportion or not that serious, once or twice (or even 3 times) sure, but Carey had a reason or a denial or an extenuating circumstance for just about every incident.

Not buying it.

How very naive of you to not think a story as big as Wayne Carey ____ing up isn't going to be blown completely out of proportion. Look at what happened in the Ben Cousins arrest fiasco. You only have to look at that and the resulting withdrawal of all charges to see how things can quickly be overstated when a big name is involved. The bigger the name, the quicker the water gets muddied by people who know people who know someone who was related to somebody that saw it happen. :rolleyes:

Carey did not deny anything, rather he clarified the "facts". Unless you were there you cannot possibly say his clarifications were lies.
 
Just too many instances for them all to have been blown out of proportion or not that serious, once or twice (or even 3 times) sure, but Carey had a reason or a denial or an extenuating circumstance for just about every incident.

Not buying it.

Can't expect him to do a 360 degree turn psychologically.

As people of said, there is a lot he won't accept but heck, it's a shitload more than he has in the past.

He is taking small postive steps in the right direction though. Recovery doesn't happen overnight.

Best of luck to him.
 
How very naive of you to not think a story as big as Wayne Carey ____ing up isn't going to be blown completely out of proportion. Look at what happened in the Ben Cousins arrest fiasco. You only have to look at that and the resulting withdrawal of all charges to see how things can quickly be overstated when a big name is involved. The bigger the name, the quicker the water gets muddied by people who know people who know someone who was related to somebody that saw it happen. :rolleyes:

Carey did not deny anything, rather he clarified the "facts". Unless you were there you cannot possibly say his clarifications were lies.

also you would be fairly gullible to believe anything he says.

as for ben cousins, again you'd be fairly gullible to believe any he says.
 
I would think that appearing on a show like Denton's on the ABC would have been a suggestion of whoever he is seeing for help. Yes he seemed to smirk alot, YES his stories sounded dubious, and YES he shouldn't be excused for any of his actions due to relating them to alcohol/drugs/upbringing etc.

What I saw however, was a bloke that obviously wasn't entirely comfortable being there, and I think his smirk would be to cover a petrified feeling that few would be able to understand sitting in the studio where he was.

At the end of the interview where Denton asked him about his idea of what domestic violence is, and whether Carey deems himself to have trouble with aggression, Carey claimed he didn't belive he did. When Denton brought up the wine throwing incident (malicious or not) and said something along the lines of "is that not aggression?" Carey seemed to have some concession in that it was an issue that may need to be worked on. Not sure if it can be considered an admission of a violent personality, but much more significant I think than the "bombshell" claims on cocaine use and being an alcoholic that the media will sprawl on, and a glimps that the interview is for the better for him.

Agreed with Caro on Footy classified on the Herald Sun's gutter-British-style tabloid story on interviewing a half pissed Carey dad. Good to see Archer slam it as well despite working for the small paper. Hutchy moved the topic along pretty quickly after Arch expressed his dissapointment.


Why would he look comfortable? Carey basically admitted to the entire nation what most had already figured out - that he is an A grade tool.

Im glad Denton tried to hold the mirror up to him.
 
How very naive of you to not think a story as big as Wayne Carey ____ing up isn't going to be blown completely out of proportion. Look at what happened in the Ben Cousins arrest fiasco. You only have to look at that and the resulting withdrawal of all charges to see how things can quickly be overstated when a big name is involved. The bigger the name, the quicker the water gets muddied by people who know people who know someone who was related to somebody that saw it happen. :rolleyes:

Carey did not deny anything, rather he clarified the "facts". Unless you were there you cannot possibly say his clarifications were lies.

How very niave of you to think that there are no bits of truth in any of the incidents reported. You're entitled to your opinion but mine is simply that there have been way too many incidents for them all to be explained in some small way as he did last night.

And don't kid yourself - while 'clarifiying facts' as you put it, Carey denied plenty.
 
The thing which struck me was Carey's carefully constructed excuses for ever incident.

- He didn't glass his girlfriend he just threw wine in her face and accidently hit her with the glass.
- He didn't know who Jason Moran was or what he did when acting as a character witness - he was just being a good neighbor.
- He didn't attack the cops just tried to keep them out of his house. The other time he was tired/drunk and did not know what he was doing.

Anything he did not have a scripted excuse for he would deny (breast grabbing at flemington, new york hotel incident, new idea payment) or claim he was too drunk to remember.

As a side note - notice how he constantly said he has not received payment for the new idea story? Kept using that term over and over. I bet someone else recieved payment - probably his girlfriend.

It was obvious his media/spin (and probably legal) team has carefully coached him with all his answers.
He used the interview as a step to right his current public image problem. It was very calculated.

I don't believe the interview was a step to self improvement. Carey does not believe he has done anything wrong except drinking & occasional coke use.
He has an excuse for everything - it's not his fault.
 
The way some people are behaving on this thread you'd think that Carey had rogered their wife and smashed a glass in their face.

Superb interview. Denton is without peer as an interviewer.

I think Carey was as honest as his psychological space allows him to be at this stage. There’s still a whole bunch of things he’s denial about though.

I actually felt very sorry for the bloke and admire him for having the balls to face a very searching public examination.

You'll never get Cousins doing that.

Sorry, but what actually does Cousins have to answer for?

- Did he grab and assault any girls in the street?
- Did he shag his best mates wife at his other best mates house?
- Did he belt up his girlfriend?
- Did he glass anyone, including his girlfriend?
- Did he resist arrest in 2 countries?
- Did he allegedly assault Police in 2 countries?
- Did he do anything at all that directly inflicted damage on anyone around him?

Carey is a violent, abusive thug.
 
If you all new Wayne like i do maybe most of you fools wouldn't be saying half the crap you are yes he has done the wrong thing and he is trying to correct things but with all the talk thats going on in the media and from fools like most of the people in forums like this one what hope has he got.:mad:
 

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Sorry, but what actually does Cousins have to answer for?

- Did he grab and assault any girls in the street?
- Did he shag his best mates wife at his other best mates house?
- Did he belt up his girlfriend?
- Did he glass anyone, including his girlfriend?
- Did he resist arrest in 2 countries?
- Did he allegedly assault Police in 2 countries?
- Did he do anything at all that directly inflicted damage on anyone around him?

Carey is a violent, abusive thug.

You have a very well balanced view of the world.
 
EAGLE87

if you are going to post stuff atleast get it right he never shaged as you put it kellie stevens @ archer's house
 
Can't expect him to do a 360 degree turn psychologically.

As people of said, there is a lot he won't accept but heck, it's a shitload more than he has in the past.

He is taking small postive steps in the right direction though. Recovery doesn't happen overnight.

Best of luck to him.

I don't expect him to do or be anything, just commenting on what I saw.
 

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