Official Club Stuff Carlton Academy - Next Gen & Father/Son/Daughter Discussion

[Blue Heart]

I've heard that the Saints have won the preference from Bailey Rice.

It looks like we can't catch a break any where and it seems that 0 from 2 with the Saints considered a more desirable destination than the Blues. And it will be like this for a fair few years elite level or high FA's too ... until we can get up the ladder and or at least be seen like a team on the rise.

 

[Jimmae]

I've heard that the Saints have won the preference from Bailey Rice.

I haven't, so there.

(in all seriousness, hoping that your source is wrong)

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Firstly, your username suggests you should have access to all the information / investigative power to work this out

1) After the first round, the 20% discount turns into a set 197 point discount (which favours the teams nominating academy/fs picks). That was part of the original submission.

2) As for leftover points, the original submission was that it would come off first pick the following year. That has since been updated by the AFL to carry over to the next year in the round the player was bid for.

So, SOS gets bid 3rd round, higher than we expect. First up, we get 197 discount. IF we don't have enough points to cover, the balance comes out of our picks from round 3 next year.

Ahh cheers, as always AFL article unclear on their own rules

 

[thylacine60]

I've heard that the Saints have won the preference from Bailey Rice.

If so, **** him. Next.......

 

[OldSaintsBro]

If so, **** him. Next.......

Don't blame the kid............. blame the Club. Their effort was pathetic compared to the Saints. I just don't get it? Did they think it was a given or something? The worst thing they did was invite him to play for the NBs when that team had turned into a rabble. Played him in the backline right next to that piece of work with the lousy and lazy attitude as well. Great example to make the right impression...... not!

 

[thylacine60]

Fancy asking him to play in a struggling reserves team and out of his favourite position too! Anything else we missed? Did we forget to buy this untried 'maybe' a car or something?

 

[OldSaintsBro]

Fancy asking him to play in a struggling reserves team and out of his favourite position too! Anything else we missed? Did we forget to buy this untried 'maybe' a car or something?

Now now, you don't need to be like that.

Don't even worry about a car or that sort of nonsense. Maybe a home visit like the Saints, NthM, Melb, Collingwood have done might have helped though. The Blues haven't even done a home visit to Weitering either (although he has only had them from Brisbane and Essendon so far). I just don't get the lack of effort by the Blues? I'm disappointed to not see him in the navy blue, but such is life.

Maybe home visits for interviews and personal connecting are not yet written into the duty statements of the recruiting staff. Seems most other Clubs have been doing it for years though.

The kid might end up being a dud and nothing will be lost. We will just have to wait and see.

 

[mediumsizered]

Fancy asking him to play in a struggling reserves team and out of his favourite position too! Anything else we missed? Did we forget to buy this untried 'maybe' a car or something?

Surely he would look at which club treated his father better. Or is it all about the here & now for these kids?

 

[passmark]

Does he have to nominate anyone?

Maybe he won't .

Maybe we haven't been able to guarantee we'll take him.

Maybe we've told him we'd love to have you but.......

Who the **** knows.

Dad played for us and the Saints.

Both clubs are shit. If the Hawks, Freo, Port, even Norf or Tigers said we'd love to have you he'd be on safer ground.

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Does he have to nominate anyone?

Maybe he won't .

Maybe we haven't been able to guarantee we'll take him.

Maybe we've told him we'd love to have you but.......

Who the **** knows.

Dad played for us and the Saints.

Both clubs are shit. If the Hawks, Freo, Port, even Norf or Tigers said we'd love to have you he'd be on safer ground.

Safer ground to not get a game maybe...

 

[passmark]

Safer ground to not get a game maybe...

He'd learn more running around at Box Hill than getting smashed in our firsts.

 

[1981]

Let's not get carried away.
It's just a Rumour and may well be untrue and he could well pick Blues.
He's a safe type HBF but lacks pace so isn't an elite prospect and we have enough HBFs right now.
Jack is a better prospect.
Don't get me wrong I'd like to get Rice for a bargain but it's not like he's an out and out star prospect

 

[Jatz]

Surely he would look at which club treated his father better. Or is it all about the here & now for these kids?

Of course it's about the here and now. Why should he worry about something that happened 20+ years ago with people that are no longer with either club.

 

[Jatz]

Also can't believe we're bad mouthing the kid before there's been any confirmation.

Just because one poster has said they've heard something, doesn't make it true. Let's wait and see what happens before we break out in angry hives.

 

[Kramer1]

Saints can run him in, we'll take over from there.

 

[IronMan29]

Also can't believe we're bad mouthing the kid before there's been any confirmation.

Just because one poster has said they've heard something, doesn't make it true. Let's wait and see what happens before we break out in angry hives.

Lets remember Saints may have nothing but a third rounder to bid for Rice at this point after they complete trades for Carlisle and Freeman.

 

[Keyza]

Someone by the name of Darren Parkin has tweeted that Rice will nominate St Kilda in the father son battle.

 

[thylacine60]

Is he the late night GuesSEN sports guy?

 

[Dominator_7]

Finey the Saints man prob told him so lol...

 

[thylacine60]

All Night Appetite Program. I think he is a very good footy show host.

 

[zeeCFC]

Parkin got the mail off a Saints board poster. The guy seems to have good info. Disappointing if true.

 

[IronMan29]

Parkin got the mail off a Saints board poster. The guy seems to have good info. Disappointing if true.

I would think if the saints knew Bailey was going to nominate them, then this is something that their media guys would be spinning to their advantage and trying to use it to sell memberships at Seaford.

 

[zeeCFC]

Poster made it seem like he found out just hours ago. May be announced tomorrow.

 

[Jimmae]

Parkin got the mail off a Saints board poster. The guy seems to have good info. Disappointing if true.

Lifelong Carlton fan has a chance to walk to Carlton and chooses not to right as we're kicking starting a modernisation era at the club? Someone should tap him on the shoulder and point out what happened the last time we tried that (George Harris era).

Honestly if it's true (and I don't think it is) then his word is worthless. Up until 6 months ago he might have had a point from a career standpoint, but today, now, he's being an idiot given his love of the club.

If SOS is half the trade table player he is cracked up to be (and with all the names everybody thinks we're interested in, even factoring in dumb arse press floating any name that pops into their head), Bailey would best serve the CFC by staying undecided as long as possible before choosing us, preferably until after the trade period.

 

[mediumsizered]

Jack is a better prospect.

Can't argue with this. He is a Silvagni, so you know exactly what you are going to get. 100% effort all of the time & he has a great attitude. He will make sure he gets all he can out of the ability he has.