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Our current 4 HBF players are all 29-30 years old. We have Cowan and now these two as future HBF players, having Lucas running off the HBF will give us our 4 wingers/HBF/mids we need.
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We have so much good youth coming through, the Camporeale twins are just icing on the cake and yet they may be the best of the lot.
Our oldest player by the time the Campo’s are on our list will be Newman. He’ll be 32, but the majority of our list, including our A graders will be between 24-30 years of age.
Our list profile is ripe for contention for years to come and these two boys should only serve to further secure that.
Our oldest player by the time the Campo’s are on our list will be Newman. He’ll be 32, but the majority of our list, including our A graders will be between 24-30 years of age.
Our list profile is ripe for contention for years to come and these two boys should only serve to further secure that.
Ben and Lucas next year, Walker in 2026
No NGAs next year of note, at this stage
No NGAs next year of note, at this stage
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Figure Duffy gets our 2nd Cat-B spot next year anyway.
Tyson Gresham NGA in 2025
Tyson Gresham NGA in 2025
Currently 169cm, averaging 10 and 1
Does that mean a potential Cat B opening…if undrafted.
It sure does...and in 2 years time, our Irish lads will be on the senior list winning Rising Star nominations, premierships, and best and fairest awards
Tyson's a little pocket rocket - around the same height as Nick Watson, but rising through the ranks. He was selected for Vic Metro in the Under 16 trial games earlier this year.
Scouting Notes: 2023 Vic Country vs. Vic Metro U16 trials
Vic Metro and Vic Country locked horns in a pair of Under 16 trial games, and we noted some of the top performers from either side.
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It sure does...and in 2 years time, our Irish lads will be on the senior list winning Rising Star nominations, premierships, and best and fairest awards
Tyson's a little pocket rocket - around the same height as Nick Watson, but rising through the ranks. He was selected for Vic Metro in the Under 16 trial games earlier this year.
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Scouting Notes: 2023 Vic Country vs. Vic Metro U16 trials
Vic Metro and Vic Country locked horns in a pair of Under 16 trial games, and we noted some of the top performers from either side.
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he looks like he might be able to start playing seniors next year.
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Bold ‘Richmond Sliders’ plot explained as suite of father-son guns to swing 2024 draft
Bold ‘Richmond Sliders’ plot explained as suite of father-son guns to swing 2024 draft
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Here we go then....
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Why do we seem to always end up at the worst timing for these sort of changes?
So Collingwood get a few generational father sons, as do the Bulldogs and most clubs benefit from the Academy for years.
Then when we have a few good ones coming through, time to change the rules by the AFL
The only saving grace is the article mentions no changes for next year at least (though it is the AFL so who knows...) but doesn't bode well for the highly rated Cody Walker and others...
AFL to overhaul draft on father-sons, academy picks
The AFL will overhaul the national draft to force clubs to pay a fairer market rate to secure father-son or academy players.
Why do we seem to always end up at the worst timing for these sort of changes?
So Collingwood get a few generational father sons, as do the Bulldogs and most clubs benefit from the Academy for years.
Then when we have a few good ones coming through, time to change the rules by the AFL
The only saving grace is the article mentions no changes for next year at least (though it is the AFL so who knows...) but doesn't bode well for the highly rated Cody Walker and others...
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Doubt any changes would be enforced in 2024Here we go then....
AFL to overhaul draft on father-sons, academy picks
The AFL will overhaul the national draft to force clubs to pay a fairer market rate to secure father-son or academy players.
Why do we seem to always end up at the worst timing for these sort of changes?
So Collingwood get a few generational father sons, as do the Bulldogs and most clubs benefit from the Academy for years.
Then when we have a few good ones coming through, time to change the rules by the AFL
The only saving grace is the article mentions no changes for next year at least (though it is the AFL so who knows...) but doesn't bode well for the highly rated Cody Walker and others...
Commonsense would suggest that clubs would need to be given a lead time to prepare for the changes if they have academy, father/sons etc in 2024. Ourselves and GCS have already traded assets for future points to bid on players under the current system, so changing rules halfway though a cycle is just pure incompetence.Here we go then....
AFL to overhaul draft on father-sons, academy picks
The AFL will overhaul the national draft to force clubs to pay a fairer market rate to secure father-son or academy players.
Why do we seem to always end up at the worst timing for these sort of changes?
So Collingwood get a few generational father sons, as do the Bulldogs and most clubs benefit from the Academy for years.
Then when we have a few good ones coming through, time to change the rules by the AFL
The only saving grace is the article mentions no changes for next year at least (though it is the AFL so who knows...) but doesn't bode well for the highly rated Cody Walker and others...
However, it is the AFL we're talking about who just make up policy on the run.
The article does state "The AFL does not want to change academy rules, the priority access for the northern academies or father-son rules, but wants to simplify the system and require clubs to use picks closer to the initial bid."
Unless the Campo boys have a massive trajectory this year, we still have our 1st and 2nd round picks which you would imagine should cover the bids under that scenario - IF the rule changes are implemented in 2024 - which is doubtful.
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The bit where the AFL notified all clubs of possible future changes before this years draft leaves the door slightly ajar?
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Not fazed about the possible changes as long as the competition evens up as much as possible.
Happy to take both Campo boys and a FA this year coming. We are seriously stacked with talent and I’m glad changes are coming with us on the up.
Happy to take both Campo boys and a FA this year coming. We are seriously stacked with talent and I’m glad changes are coming with us on the up.
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We will still get Cody, no danger in thatDon’t worry about the Camporeale brothers - Cody Walker might be in jeopardy
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David King suggested that you might need to match a bid with a pick that's within 10.
Not horrible I guess.
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Not horrible I guess.
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What's the point though if you can just make current point values of picks more reflective of reality? Does the same thing without complicating the current system. Also you wouldn't know what pick a bid is coming at until draft night so would be hard to trade for the right pick.
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As long as Cody gets bid on at pick 8 we will be safe. Just
Having a pick in the same round as the bid won't work, for obvious reasons, so I doubt that will get rolled out
A pick within half a round of the bid, maybe, but that seems difficult too
Still think the best option is removing the discount, which still allows high volume pick swaps which the AFL prefer
Perhaps the best strategy, is a panel with the likes of Mick Ablett, etc determining where each of these players are ranked, say early/mid/late of each of the first 2 rounds (before the start of the trade period) and clubs then requiring a pick with the next 10 selections
Still feels inconsistent though
A pick within half a round of the bid, maybe, but that seems difficult too
Still think the best option is removing the discount, which still allows high volume pick swaps which the AFL prefer
Perhaps the best strategy, is a panel with the likes of Mick Ablett, etc determining where each of these players are ranked, say early/mid/late of each of the first 2 rounds (before the start of the trade period) and clubs then requiring a pick with the next 10 selections
Still feels inconsistent though
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Would just mean teams will absolute rort any team needing a pick within 10 for their F/S kids. In the situation that Cody Walker goes pick 1 which he's expected to atm and we finish towards the top of the ladder any team with a pick inside 10 is going to demand every pick and player we've got just to match the bid knowing we can't do anything other than bend to their interests. Not a fan at all of that idea from King.
Imo they should just limit each team to how many academy and F/S selections each team is allowed to take over 4-5 years. Lets say they can take 5 over that period, teams can spread them out over a few years or go all out depending on where they're rated. That way you don't get any situations like GCS this year with 4 kids inside the top 25 and half a dozen more expected over the next few years. Maybe they choose to go all out in a draft, then next year they don't have enough selections left to take Lombardo.
Also don't mind the proposal that the bid has to be matched using maximum of two picks.
Means two high second rounders can be used for a first round etc....still gives you a little bit of benefit but not a crazy amount like now you can use 5 picks 50+ to take a top 20 player.
Means two high second rounders can be used for a first round etc....still gives you a little bit of benefit but not a crazy amount like now you can use 5 picks 50+ to take a top 20 player.
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