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Docs been through it all before - he’s a genuine champion
Power to him …I’m backing him in to play final/s.
Power to him …I’m backing him in to play final/s.
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Unnecessary to knock a kid busting a gut for the team IMO. Ollie has room for improvement, but other than his partner in crime on the wing, no player in our list runs harder and smarter defensively.I’d feel more confident having doc in the side off an acl than Ollie to be honest
Unnecessary to knock a kid busting a gut for the team IMO. Ollie has room for improvement, but other than his partner in crime on the wing, no player in our list runs harder and smarter defensively.
Would love Doc to make it back, but we don’t need to disrespect one player to elevate another.
There is a reason Ollie is in the team despite the loud chorus among the fan base to demote him.
He is in a catch 22 situation. His body can’t “develop” physique wise, while he runs a half marathon every game day. His strength should be allowed to improve, but is not given a chance.
Hard to win the footy when the offensive part of the game is generally run on the opposite wing to him. He plays a position that is extremely valuable, yet quite often doesn’t show up on the stat sheet. Unrewarded defensive and offensive running, outnumbers at contests. Didn’t we also used to slate LOB for getting sucked into the contest looking for a touch too?His ability to run is a strength but at what point does winning the football and damaging your direct opponent & opposition take priority?
Tired of hearing how it's sooo good to have elite runners like Ollie & Cotrrell but at some point you've got to find the football do you not? Both are 'Below Average' for possessions, marks, tackles...
Same with guys like Fogarty & Fantasia. Pressure is a basic fundamental for a small forward but you have to actually kick goals if you're playing that position. They're both currently rated 'Below Average' in this department.
We seem to accept mediocrity more than most teams.
Too many of our supporters look for a whipping boy but they have no idea how damaging it can be to a young players career. All players would either read comments on here/other social media platforms or at least be aware of the commentary around them. I find it infuriating as it would kill their confidence which makes it even harder for them to improve as a player. It has to stop.Seems like a really unnecessary pot shot at Ollie…
It’s up there with booing players pre game. It’s infuriatingToo many of our supporters look for a whipping boy but they have no idea how damaging it can be to a young players career. All players would either read comments on here/other social media platforms or at least be aware of the commentary around them. I find it infuriating as it would kill their confidence which makes it even harder for them to improve as a player. It has to stop.
How ya doin' mister?Unnecessary to knock a kid busting a gut for the team IMO. Ollie has room for improvement, but other than his partner in crime on the wing, no player in our list runs harder and smarter defensively.
Would love Doc to make it back, but we don’t need to disrespect one player to elevate another.
There is a reason Ollie is in the team despite the loud chorus among the fan base to demote him.
He is in a catch 22 situation. His body can’t “develop” physique wise, while he runs a half marathon every game day. His strength should be allowed to improve, but is not given a chance.
Better than for a very long time thanks frisky filly.How ya doin' mister?
Geelong 5th, GWS 7th.Move this to another thread if this doesn’t belong in here. Im not always someone who gets sucked into champion data stats, but I recommend listening to Daniel Hoyne on Sportsday talking about our turnover game.
For those wondering, 17 of the last 18 premiers have been top 3 in the turnover game. He says Carlton are second, only 4 points behind Sydney, and we are one of the best teams at scoring off turnover, and comfortably the hardest to score against off turnover.
Whether you chose to take any stock in it is up to you, but the top 4 in the turnover game are currently Sydney, Carlton, Brisbane and Freo. The current top 4 in that order. Pretty remarkable listening
Those two teams are apparently “miles off” according to Hoyne. It’s certainly much more contextual than other metrics usedGeelong 5th, GWS 7th.
Not a big fan of X from Y premiers have been top Z in a, b, c but at least it's more contextual than "top 6 for points against".
UPDATE: Carlton has confirmed to SEN.com.au that a laptop was stolen from Voss, but that it did NOT contain any sensitive club information
“This is based on the degree of difficulty of the kick that you’re trying to pull off and how far above or below you actually pull it off,” Hoyne told SEN’s Sportsday.
No current season stats available
Degree of difficulty as assigned by....? Success rate as decided by.....? This is where CD loses the plot. Inventing subject measures to then create an even more subjective index. There's some elements of truth but it's too far towards 'fit the stats to a story instead of find a story in the stats.The 10 best and worst kicks inside 50 in the AFL in 2024, according to Champion Data
Champion Data's Daniel Hoyne goes through all of the numbers.www.sen.com.au
The 10 worst kicks inside 50
1. Matt Kennedy (Carlton)
5. Sam Walsh (Carlton)
Hoyney really does get carried away with stats.Degree of difficulty as assigned by....? Success rate as decided by.....? This is where CD loses the plot. Inventing subject measures to then create an even more subjective index. There's some elements of truth but it's too far towards 'fit the stats to a story instead of find a story in the stats.
To be fair, to the eye test Walsh isn't a great kick in general. Very few of his kicks inside 50 are kicked to any sort of advantage. I don't think he has played many "impactful" games this year, to be honest. Cripps on the other hand has been had most impactful I can remember.Hoyney really does get carried away with stats.
"The Ladder is not the real ladder, the one that counts is points from transition. 17 of the last 18 premiers have been top 3 for this stat"
You know what else? 17 of the last 18 premiers have finished top 3 of the real ladder.
Kennedy was interesting as the worst kick inside 50 in the league. Normally has pretty good penetration but is often just pumping it in from 80 out.
I agree but there’s no denying both Walsh and Kennedy are horrific inside 50 kicksChampion Data
Our defence is in all sorts right now. Mainly because our midfield is not applying enough defensive pressure. Along with McGovern being out our intercept game inside defensive 50 is all or nothing in the air with Weitering and on the ground with Saad.Sydney and Carlton are 6 points apart in scores from turnover differential
There’s nearly 70 points to 3rd
Carlton have been the best by a mile for the past two months
17 of the last 18 premiers have been top three in this area
If we can clean up our defence and stoppages (and that’s a big if) we could go all the way