Opinion The 'Carlton related stuff that doesn't need it's own thread' thread Part 3

[Manhattanite]

Amazing stats here from Champion Data on SEN - Carlton is currently dominating the one stat that 17 of the last 18 premiers all had in common

Our turnover differential has gone from 4th to 2nd in the last two months - but the real numbers are super impressive - we have gone from +101 to +276 in two months whereas Sydney have gone from +261 to +280 (so basically it’s dried up)

So while on the surface it appears we have been winning (and losing) ugly - we have been winning the same way that premiership teams win flags

So as per this one stat which has predicted 17 of the last 18 premiers, the likely premiers of 2024 will be either Sydney, Brisbane or Carlton. Freo could overtake Brisbane for 3rd place. But when you look at the in form teams in this stat - over the last 2 months it’s been Carlton leading the way followed by Brisbane and Freo.

The stat that has produced 17 of the last 18 premiers and the three teams leading the way in 2024

It is based on the points differential from turnover.

www.sen.com.au

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[skadoosh]

A nice little table someone on Reddit put together:

 

[Revenant1965]

A nice little table someone on Reddit put together:

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Great little graphic. Mods: Would that be a good one to 'sticky' at the top of the current and next 'Round the grounds' threads?

 

[SurreyBlue]

A nice little table someone on Reddit put together:

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All opposition supporters are questioning our fixture now.......lol - must have missed the first 18 rounds.

 

[BigFrizz36]

Fox footy showing the 2016 carlton v port game currently. I think that we have only Cripps and Docherty still on the list from that game. Toohey is the other still on an AFL list.

There's some others going round like Sumner, Lamb, Everett, Byrne, Kerridge, that were hardly household names. And Kreuzer has just kicked the winner.

 

[dumb]

what explains our 2nd quarter naps earlier in the year if it's training blocks currently? i always liked to assume it was tactical readjustment by our opposition, to counter our usually blistering first quarter. they readjust, and have a blistering 2nd quarter and the game ends up at parity, sort of. then we fuddle duddle and fall over the line after some individual brilliance somewhere.

 

[David Sylvian]

Crippa just ran mid pack in the marathon!!

 

[BluStreak]

Is just me or do others see it as well?
Now that Andrew Russell is leaving, posters have move to blaming Austin for our fall from grace.
Geez talk about eating your own.

 

[DangerousD]

Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday, Sunday

They don't need Marvel for finals

It’s criminal that Marvel teams would be forced to play a home final against MCG teams, baffles me.

 

[Arr0w]

It’s criminal that Marvel teams would be forced to play a home final against MCG teams, baffles me.

Marvel is a crap hole

 

[DangerousD]

Marvel is a crap hole

Regardless of anything else, the home team, should get the choice too play their home finals at their home ground.

And yes, it stinks

 

[Jatz]

It’s criminal that Marvel teams would be forced to play a home final against MCG teams, baffles me.

Absolutely agree with you here.

If the Bulldogs want to play an MCG tenant at Marvel, they should be able to.

 

[BluStreak]

I hate loses!
It causes a lot of finger pointing by Hurt people who dont have insider knowledge on players or coaches or admin staff.
If you can do better get in there. Otherwise STF about stuff you dont know.

 

[Jatz]

I hate loses!
It causes a lot of finger pointing by Hurt people who dont have insider knowledge on players or coaches or admin staff.
If you can do better get in there. Otherwise STF about stuff you dont know.

What a ridiculous comment. The whole point of this site is to discuss football. If you're limiting that to posters who have an inside track into the club, you'd have very little to read.

 

[Soapy V]

I hate loses!
It causes a lot of finger pointing by Hurt people who dont have insider knowledge on players or coaches or admin staff.
If you can do better get in there. Otherwise STF about stuff you dont know.

So what your saying is you can have an opinion that people shouldn't have an opinion?

 

[BluStreak]

So what your saying is you can have an opinion that people shouldn't have an opinion?

No, just that posters are saying I told you so, such and such was no good as if they actually know. They are not stating opinions.

 

[BluStreak]

What a ridiculous comment. The whole point of this site is to discuss football. If you're limiting that to posters who have an inside track into the club, you'd have very little to read.

Posters are stating that they know what is wrong as if they have inside info.
Plus it is usually those posters who only appear after a loss.

 

[Soapy V]

No, just that posters are saying I told you so, such and such was no good as if they actually know. They are not stating opinions.

Sounds like opinions to me

I'm tired of people thinking they know better based purely because they don't agree

Debate the subject. Simple

 

[BluStreak]

Here is a prime example.
"Trouble is, Russell has destroyed our trade currency."

 

[Soapy V]

Here is a prime example.
"Trouble is, Russell has destroyed our trade currency."

That's an opinion. You don't have to agree with it. I don't

 

[gbatman]

We play a very physically hard brand of footy. A lot of contests and congestions, not enough uncontested footy. Skills and run need to be better to clean our game up. The development of players to not develop a second or third position for them hurts rotations. Voss' use of rotations has been terrible during his entire tenure. Our midfield rotations should have been higher the last few years, it's not personnel, it's coaching. Voss has a lot of really good head coach traits but he's terrible tactically, that's been obvious the whole way through. He needs some tactical nouse around him. Better than what we have.

The more contests and ugly footy you play the more injuries. Big heavy bodies in running positions.

We got a lot of players cheap and gettable due to being injury prone. SOS was keen on bringing in injured talent and we have paid for it. Many of them like Sumner etc never even got off the ground.

The soft tissue explosion this. I have to point the finger at training. This super hard preseason then whatever the hell we did mid season. It has to be part training part injury proneness. Is that Voss or Russell?

Some players are accident prone like Marchbank. A lot of his injuries come from being reckless and not protecting himself out there. Some players came to us injury prone and remained so.

I just think it's a combination of a lot of things. I reckon we flog the players too hard at training and that shows with the soft tissue problems and lack of energy on match day. Football at all levels, you do a hard preseason then back it off when the games start to come. Overtraining is worse than undertraining IMO.

If we were a quicker, more skilled side and better on the outside we would be better off. I don't think this is coaching as much as it is recruiting. All our mids taken from the draft in this team amount to two obvious selections in Walsh and Cripps. Cripps a little less obvious but we have off loaded a heap of midfielders. We are paying for it now.

Just a few thoughts.

 

[Accidental genius]

We play a very physically hard brand of footy. A lot of contests and congestions, not enough uncontested footy. Skills and run need to be better to clean our game up. The development of players to not develop a second or third position for them hurts rotations. Voss' use of rotations has been terrible during his entire tenure. Our midfield rotations should have been higher the last few years, it's not personnel, it's coaching. Voss has a lot of really good head coach traits but he's terrible tactically, that's been obvious the whole way through. He needs some tactical nouse around him. Better than what we have.

The more contests and ugly footy you play the more injuries. Big heavy bodies in running positions.

We got a lot of players cheap and gettable due to being injury prone. SOS was keen on bringing in injured talent and we have paid for it. Many of them like Sumner etc never even got off the ground.

The soft tissue explosion this. I have to point the finger at training. This super hard preseason then whatever the hell we did mid season. It has to be part training part injury proneness. Is that Voss or Russell?

Some players are accident prone like Marchbank. A lot of his injuries come from being reckless and not protecting himself out there. Some players came to us injury prone and remained so.

I just think it's a combination of a lot of things. I reckon we flog the players too hard at training and that shows with the soft tissue problems and lack of energy on match day. Football at all levels, you do a hard preseason then back it off when the games start to come. Overtraining is worse than undertraining IMO.

If we were a quicker, more skilled side and better on the outside we would be better off. I don't think this is coaching as much as it is recruiting. All our mids taken from the draft in this team amount to two obvious selections in Walsh and Cripps. Cripps a little less obvious but we have off loaded a heap of midfielders. We are paying for it now.

Just a few thoughts.

We’re like the rehab ward for the afl ….sos couldn’t resist cheapies.

 

[Bearded Carpenter]

Kouta going for Lord Mayor.

 

[sosos]

Cookie with a quick handball to Savvy Xavvy?

Succession: Carlton approach former Essendon boss to be their next CEO

As the Blues lick their wounds from their horror loss to Hawthorn – and another run of terrible injuries to star players – the club’s administration is looking to shore up its future off the field.

www.theage.com.au

 

[teagueyubeauty]

Thought he was a good operator, clearly has morals as he hedged his own gig at * on the backing of a coach that was dumped and his replacement has done **** all better.

Did an amazing job taking on the CEO role during the drugs saga schemozzle

Kept in the gig, probably not a positive of his tenure externally but continues to give every oppo supporters uncontrollable giggles


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