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Extra points for even finding the thread significance here. What a truly bizarre, irrational sentence:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/picker...rld-of-afl-player-agents-20160607-gpdnxz.html

1) Makes sense if 'finding' is read as a noun and not as a present participle verb...... so no sense whatsoever
2) I know the judge in that case, he is a really good guy
3) "Strategic has been impoverished and suffered loss and damage as a result of the conduct of Pickering and Pitcher"...... Reckon you could replace 'Strategic' with 'The entire competition and fanbase'
 

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He's right about the injuries. We were smashed in that department last season.
Especially if you count the uninterested/already out the door ones as well. Yarran was a liability from round 1 and Henderson and Menzel offered very little. Walker, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Armfield, Thomas and Byrne all missing massive chunks of the season. They all are playing great football this year though Walker is a bit down on output. Some really good recruits. The list is super healthy, I think if you did a best 22 nearly all of them would be available or have played most games. Turned the list over and turned the culture over, replaced those willing to leave with those wanting to come. New football staff. I think with the injury run we had last year we'd be in a similar position really.
 
Extra points for even finding the thread significance here. What a truly bizarre, irrational sentence:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/picker...rld-of-afl-player-agents-20160607-gpdnxz.html
That's weird, there's another Age article on this topic which is slightly different.

The above article was written by "Mark Russell" at 9.50 pm and says:

"Justice Michael Sifris, a Carlton supporter who repeatedly urged the parties involved to try to settle the matter, handed down his decision in favour of Sourasis and Strategic Management on Tuesday."

An earlier Age article written by "Liam Mannix, Mark Russell and Adam Cooper" at 6.19pm, http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...ion-for-poaching-players-20160607-gpd53r.html, doesn't mention the Judge's team:

"Justice Michael Sifris, who repeatedly urged the parties involved to try to settle the matter, handed down his decision in favour of Mr Sourasis, finding Mr Pickering and Mr Pitcher must pay his company compensation for lost earnings."

 

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One more time for Harks....

I knew what you were getting out but I meandered off on another tangent. :) No idea why.

Slippery customer is Pickering but if there's one guy I can't stand listening to, it's Brent Harvey.
His insincerity just oozes out of the walls of SEN. Turn off time every week.
 
Especially if you count the uninterested/already out the door ones as well. Yarran was a liability from round 1 and Henderson and Menzel offered very little. Walker, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Armfield, Thomas and Byrne all missing massive chunks of the season. They all are playing great football this year though Walker is a bit down on output. Some really good recruits. The list is super healthy, I think if you did a best 22 nearly all of them would be available or have played most games. Turned the list over and turned the culture over, replaced those willing to leave with those wanting to come. New football staff. I think with the injury run we had last year we'd be in a similar position really.

Do we all need to go back and watch a few of the games from early last season?
It wouldn't matter what team MM put out on the park with the game plan we were using. Opposition player all centre square side of our players chipping it around the boundary. We turn it over as we were squeezed up against the boundary and we were torched as half a dozen player streamed through the centre to goal.

It wasn't that we lost all those games that cost MM his job it was how we lost.
 


 



Wow Ed speaks well.

And he almost got coaxed in to talking about finals.
 
Do we all need to go back and watch a few of the games from early last season?
It wouldn't matter what team MM put out on the park with the game plan we were using. Opposition player all centre square side of our players chipping it around the boundary. We turn it over as we were squeezed up against the boundary and we were torched as half a dozen player streamed through the centre to goal.

It wasn't that we lost all those games that cost MM his job it was how we lost.

No thanks! No doubt our gameplan has improved immensely. Our zoning defensive structure and use of handball has improved us out of sight. But remember we still made finals with Malthouse's gameplan and won a final with it so there was much more to it than just gameplan which certainly wasn't the sole reason for finishing last like many enjoy making out to be. I think people underestimate the great health our list is in at the moment, the improvement in culture and morale and the improvement our team has since last season through the comeback of those who had injuries and the new recruits. We've also had a great run with the draw recently, apart from Geelong which was a good win. What's had a bigger influence? Hard to say, end of the day the quality of the players on the field is more important than the game plan.

Having players who are going to leave and aren't interested had a strong negative effect on us. Whether or not they were open about it with their team mates, the other players can sense that and it's very infectious. Uninterested players are poison, it'll make them all lie down.

For what it's worth I'm also very happy with Henderson, Yarran, Garlett, Menzel, Robinson, Betts, Waite etc being where they are. Even when we were playing finals under Ratten we still lost to teams we should have beaten. Had our time again we'd beat Richmond but that's part of our development. We don't seem to lose to teams we should beat anymore which is great. The thing I'm happy with most is our tackling which is as good as it's been in 15 years, our effort which isn't in one week and out the next like it's been for the last 15 years, our list appears to be made up of hard trainers and real effort players. Not players who are inconsistent who get by on skills alone and don't do the team things like chase, tackle and run hard both ways. We're beginning to get great reward from ridding ourselves of highly talented yet lazy or disruptive footballers for hard working ones. Plenty of work to be done but we're getting there and we are actually currently better off for not having the mentioned players.

This is also why we are probably looking like a destination club again. If you've got players who are mucking up off the field and ones who are lazy on the field and the track, the whole league will know about it. We've got a good culture again, a good coach who is highly rated and respected and we've done fairly well at settling things at board level. This along with our improvement will entice players to play for us. Whereas in the past it was more about, we have good facilities and Chris Judd come and play here.
 
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No thanks! No doubt our gameplan has improved immensely. Our zoning defensive structure and use of handball has improved us out of sight. But remember we still made finals with Malthouse's gameplan and won a final with it so there was much more to it than just gameplan which certainly wasn't the sole reason for finishing last like many enjoy making out to be. I think people underestimate the great health our list is in at the moment, the improvement in culture and morale and the improvement our team has since last season through the comeback of those who had injuries and the new recruits. We've also had a great run with the draw recently, apart from Geelong which was a good win. What's had a bigger influence? Hard to say, end of the day the quality of the players on the field is more important than the game plan.

Having players who are going to leave and aren't interested had a strong negative effect on us. Whether or not they were open about it with their team mates, the other players can sense that and it's very infectious. Uninterested players are poison, it'll make them all lie down.

For what it's worth I'm also very happy with Henderson, Yarran, Garlett, Menzel, Robinson, Betts, Waite etc being where they are. Even when we were playing finals under Ratten we still lost to teams we should have beaten. Had our time again we'd beat Richmond but that's part of our development. We don't seem to lose to teams we should beat anymore which is great. The thing I'm happy with most is our tackling which is as good as it's been in 15 years, our effort which isn't in one week and out the next like it's been for the last 15 years, our list appears to be made up of hard trainers and real effort players. Not players who are inconsistent who get by on skills alone and don't do the team things like chase, tackle and run hard both ways. We're beginning to get great reward from ridding ourselves of highly talented yet lazy or disruptive footballers for hard working ones. Plenty of work to be done but we're getting there and we are actually currently better off for not having the mentioned players.

This is also why we are probably looking like a destination club again. If you've got players who are mucking up off the field and ones who are lazy on the field and the track, the whole league will know about it. We've got a good culture again, a good coach who is highly rated and respected and we've done fairly well at settling things at board level. This along with our improvement will entice players to play for us. Whereas in the past it was more about, we have good facilities and Chris Judd come and play here.
So Malthouse wasn't terrible for the club after all. Don't know if you've convinced anyone else of that, but sounds like you've managed to convince yourself
 
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