News Chad Wingard traded to Hawthorn for ... dammit who is peeling onions?

[Janus]

It's not 1950-60? There are petulant campaigners in every recent premiership side. Akermanis was in 3 of them. It's the way you manage them. We can't.

Akermanis won a Brownlow. Wingard can’t even finish top three in his own best and fairest. Akermanis was petulant because he was getting the best out of himself and it wasn’t good enough - he was asked to change his personality too. Wingard was simply asked to get the best out of himself and we would accomodate his personality.

The difference is chalk and cheese.

 

[OneGreatClub]

I'll move on when this management is pushed out. It's a circus. It's also not passed. Ken will get the sack when we are bottom 4 next year and the new coach in waiting will have a side stripped of talent. You know it, I know it.

You had better take an around the world cruise for a few years then.

 

[badbeats]

We are giving up Chad to do so

Depends what the trade is

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Maybe we end up with 3 10 15 and Burton?

If we do I bet we have overplayed to get from 6 to 3.

If we cant get 10 to 3 just keep 6 IMO.

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[badbeats]

I gotta ask C4 claims inside knowledge, do we believe him/her?

 

[OneGreatClub]

I gotta ask C4 claims inside knowledge, do we believe him/her?

Yes

 

[Muunky Tuunk Man]

The club is going to cop a lot of heat for this. But it’ll be nothing like the heat they’ll experience if 2019 is worse than 2018, and Chad stars for the Hawks

Can’t wait for the excuses already.

 

[MitchIn3D]

I gotta ask C4 claims inside knowledge, do we believe him/her?

I don't think I've ever seen C4 be wrong before.

If he doesn't have inside knowledge he should go and buy a lottery ticket.

 

[Zakk Wylde]

I gotta ask C4 claims inside knowledge, do we believe him/her?

Has exceptional contacts.

Credibility can't be questioned. Stunned people still are.

 

[Incarnate]

Maybe we end up with 3 10 15 and Burton?

I was thinking this last night.

3= whingegard pick
10=hinkleys game plan pick (original draft selection)
15=polesmoker pick

Really want 6 as well, considering the 2 3rd and 4th rounder we lost.

 

[PAFC66]

I feel sorry for Burton, doesn't even want to go here..?

 

[HeHateMe]

I feel sorry for Burton, doesn't even want to go here..?

And Wingard doesn't want to leave. Absolutely mindboggling.

*sorry for the intrusion.

 

[PAFC66]

And Wingard doesn't want to leave. Absolutely mindboggling.

*sorry for the intrusion.

Money will make it work. 2018.

 

[HeHateMe]

Money will make it work. 2018.

Yep, ill have to change my sig..... can you be happysad?

 

[Kingfish73]

Has there ever been a thread on PA board that has this much activity? You step away for an hour or so and 10 pages get added!

Everyone just knows it will end with 15 + Burton.

 

[philthy05]

And Wingard doesn't want to leave. Absolutely mindboggling.

*sorry for the intrusion.

For future reference there is no need to apologise for coming onto our board. Everyone is welcome until they aren’t by their conduct and yours was fine.

 

[Arthur Dunger]

Replacing Chad with another middle of the road hbf'er in burton is going to set this place back so far, we have officially jumped the shark.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Could Amon be involved?

One thing that petulant little campaigner has never been is involved! right Janus

 

[Janus]

Previous lack of success excuses current lack of success. Where exactly are we building this spiral staircase to hell?

It doesn’t excuse it. That’s why we are making changes.

We tried it one way - a way that had Keith Thomas telling Hinkley that he couldn’t treat everyone the same and he had to ease back on the intensity - and it didn’t work. Now we are going back to the way that the majority of players responded to back in 2013/14.

As Kanye says, “The vibes is back!”

 

[Capital Power]

The last 160 pages have confused my aging brain. It seems we're trading a marquee player who doesn't want to leave for an opposition fan favourite who doesn't want to come here and a pick we have said we won't take (and have no-one identified for). All this just to protect the significantly upgraded contract of one of the management team. Am I close?

 

[finbarr]

Akermanis won a Brownlow. Wingard can’t even finish top three in his own best and fairest. Akermanis was petulant because he was getting the best out of himself and it wasn’t good enough - he was asked to change his personality too. Wingard was simply asked to get the best out of himself and we would accomodate his personality.

The difference is chalk and cheese.

Yeah, you have no idea what Wingard was told, or Akermanis for that matter.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

I gotta ask C4 claims inside knowledge, do we believe him/her?

Yes. The best track record on Bigfooty

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[Muunky Tuunk Man]

The last 160 pages have confused my aging brain. It seems we're trading a marquee player who doesn't want to leave for an opposition fan favourite who doesn't want to come here and a pick we have said we won't take (and have no-one identified for). All this just to protect the significantly upgraded contract of one of the management team. Am I close?

That pretty much sums it up how I understand it too

 

[Chewy316]

Sounds like we are just doubling down on having a bunch of high character guys who work hard. My old man was critical of Ken after the prelim in 2014 when Ken said that we as a team didn't work hard enough in that game to win. He said that the players would eventually get offside with Ken because of his 'work harder, not smarter' mantra and they'd burn out. Initially I thought he was crazy but it's slowly been proven to be correct over the last few years.

I'm sure if Ken has his way he'd select 22 Brad Eberts every week. Not sure what he'd say after a loss though.

The club has lost its way from the top down. I really fear that it's going to take a major intervention from a high power (like another Kochie) to right the ship, because this current leadership group are rudderless.

 

[PAFC66]

It doesn’t excuse it. That’s why we are making changes.

We tried it one way - a way that had Keith Thomas telling Hinkley that he couldn’t treat everyone the same and he had to ease back on the intensity - and it didn’t work. Now we are going back to the way that the majority of players responded to back in 2013/14.

As Kanye says, “The vibes is back!”

Our team was young in 2013/2014? Vibes were fresh.. the team wasn't the 2nd oldest list in the competition with stale vibes.

You're also kidding yourself if you think Akermanis was their to win flags. The whole team hated him but Leigh Matthews made it work.