News Chad Wingard traded to Hawthorn for ... dammit who is peeling onions?

[Pedro59]

I think the TRUTH is best for the moving on.

What does Chad mean he found it hard to tell Kenny?
Doesn’t sound like he was pushed at all..
If he just wanted out he can GF

We should be told the truth so we maybe stop blaming the club

But then again if he wanted out
stop trying to push some narrative we done ok
We already had 6...
We only got 15
why couldn’t we give 15 to the Dees for Hogan?
Cos they are not dumb like our recruiter

 

[Janus]

I don’t think he wanted to leave.

But I think he needed to leave to get anywhere near the level he is capable of...away from a comfort zone.

 

[JUSTWORK]

I don’t think he wanted to leave.

But I think he needed to leave to get anywhere near the level he is capable of...away from a comfort zone.

Coaches that pushed him is what he needed, we could have done that with the right coaches here.

 

[Forzaport]

Well according to HH Chad didn't want to leave.

Well, obviously someone is lying. The rationalising about Wingard moving on because he was a year out from free agency is bullshit. As a restricted free agent we had the right to match and force a trade. Maybe Hawthorn were pissing in Wingard's ear for a while, maybe Port were in Burton's ear for a while and all the hoo-hah was just theatre. Maybe Wingard decided to leave once the news dropped that Hinkley had signed an extension.

Wingard was clearly playing below himself this year. I lost count of the number of times he attempted to square the ball i50 instead of kicking a goal that should be a formality for him. Seemed like he was proving a point that he could play Ken's bullshit gameplan. I still can't believe we let a once in a generation player just walk out for a bargain basement price.

 

[Powerstufff]

Stewie Dew
Brent Guerra
Stephen Gillham
Junior Burger

On the Bright side we did get Renouf back.

Ah yes, I was following my earlier post where I talked of Dew and Burgoyne but sadly that was in my head and not in the text of the post you looked at.
Guerra yes, however went to the Saints for 3 years first.
But Gilham was a clever one to recall. I had to look up his record because gun to my head I could not recall him actually playing with us. Turns out it was one game in 2005.

 

[shewho]

Yeah seeing him in that live video he was absolutely devestated.

Maybe he was hypnotized and only now realizes the truth

 

[Janey]

There is a lot about this trade that just baffles me. Both the club and Chad's manager have talked about the fact that Chad would be a RFA next year as a factor and that the club wanted to maximise their return for him by trading this year. But everything you hear is that Chad did not want to leave, that he loved it here so why did the club think he would end up leaving next year anyway.
Did we definitely try to get Chad to sign an extension before going down this path?
As for the suggestion that there was a problem with him getting along with other players, from a personality angle, he seems to have been getting along with everyone just fine in his previous six years at the club.

 

[JUSTWORK]

Well, obviously someone is lying. The rationalising about Wingard moving on because he was a year out from free agency is bullshit. As a restricted free agent we had the right to match and force a trade. Maybe Hawthorn were pissing in Wingard's ear for a while, maybe Port were in Burton's ear for a while and all the hoo-hah was just theatre. Maybe Wingard decided to leave once the news dropped that Hinkley had signed an extension.

Wingard was clearly playing below himself this year. I lost count of the number of times he attempted to square the ball i50 instead of kicking a goal that should be a formality for him. Seemed like he was proving a point that he could play Ken's bullshit gameplan. I still can't believe we let a once in a generation player just walk out for a bargain basement price.

Our game plan repressed his talent and star factor, our coaches let him coast through not push him hard enough and we trade him for not paying to his best and being the star he should be.

 

[Pt Augusta Power]

Geez, Chad’s highlights reel is impressive isn’t it. Goes for like 5 minutes!

Compared to Sam Mayes highlights......

Burtons okay for a second year player

 

[Janus]

I did find it amusing that his manager mentioned how many indigenous players Hawthorn have.

Jarman Impey and Shaun Burgoyne were taken from Port Adelaide.

So really, Hawthorn’s indigenous program is to steal talent from Port.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

There is a lot about this trade that just baffles me. Both the club and Chad's manager have talked about the fact that Chad would be a RFA next year as a factor and that the club wanted to maximise their return for him by trading this year. But everything you hear is that Chad did not want to leave, that he loved it here so why did the club think he would end up leaving next year anyway.
Did we definitely try to get Chad to sign an extension before going down this path?
As for the suggestion that there was a problem with him getting along with other players, from a personality angle, he seems to have been getting along with everyone just fine in his previous six years at the club.

Chad didn't want to leave THIS year so of course he needed to tell everyone he didn't want to leave.

Chad wanted to leave next year for big $$ and the club found out.

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[Janey]

Chad didn't want to leave THIS year so of course he needed to tell everyone he didn't want to leave.

Chad wanted to leave next year for big $$ and the club found out.

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Is that a fact or speculation? Makes a difference.

 

[JUSTWORK]

Chad wanted to leave next year for big $$ and the club found out.

Id like to know what this is based on because All we know is one of our stars and most talented, exciting players wanted to stay and we traded them.

If he definitely was going we probably made the right decision getting more from here now, but how do we know he was going ?

 

[Handyandy]

There is nothing surer than Chad cutting us up when we play them. We won't bother covering him.

We actually don't have a gun small defender like most good clubs to contain wingard or any of the small gun forwards in the afl. But we went into last season without a ruck too.

 

[Powerstufff]

I don’t think he wanted to leave .....

It seems fairly certain to me now that Chad was given the boot, but would have stayed for his last contracted year had Port wanted that. His/his teammates stories seem to align with what the club was and is still saying.

 

[Powerstufff]

.... If it turns out that he never planned on leaving but got upset by the club offering him around due to being scared at the idea he may leave next year ill be dam annoyed.

Subtle difference from being offered around it seems he/his manager were told to solicit offers.

 

[raman]

Well according to HH Chad didn't want to leave.

According to all available evidence and common sense Chad didn’t want to leave.

 

[WHOME]

Way too much Chad love going on here for my liking. He's now just another Hawthorn campaigner I love to hate.

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[Powerstufff]

According to all available evidence and common sense Chad didn’t want to leave.

I guess if you don't sign an extension, and it's known you were talking to Clarkson, and you're posting social media pictures at a party/BBQ in Melbourne with Hawthorn players, then it's disingenuous to say you weren't going to walk out next year.

 

[raman]

I guess if you don't sign an extension, and it's known you were talking to Clarkson, and you're posting social media pictures at a party/BBQ in Melbourne with Hawthorn players, then it's disingenuous to say you weren't going to walk out next year.

Yes, curse Chad for not signing that extension he wasn’t offered!

 

[Contested Marx]

Chirrf is going to be loving all the premium payments to ChubbyAirsack getting Wingard usernames changed

 

[Willsy10]

Aren't we all speculating, obviously the vast majority on here are in the Chad wingard fan club but that doesn't mean you're right.

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[Powerstufff]

Yes, curse Chad for not signing that extension he wasn’t offered!

Well that's the elephant in the room, the offer of an extension that no one mentions but everyone assumes must have happened. If no extension was offered to him on the cusp of the last year of his contract he must really have been on the nose at Alberton.

 

[raman]

Well that's the elephant in the room, the offer of an extension that no one mentions but everyone assumes must have happened. If no extension was offered to him on the cusp of the last year of his contract he must really have been on the nose at Alberton.

On the nose at Alberton, making the colossaly optimistic assumption that the people in charge at Alberton are not a bunch of raging incompetents.

 

[elpirate]

Why can't we have nice things ?