Changes/discussion v Carlton round 8

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All of the players suggested as possible ins wouldn't disgrace themselves so not concerned which way we go. Though I do have my own preferences like everyone else.

I'd like to find a way of getting Fort and Ah Chee in but thinking neither will happen.

Payne should go to Curnow match up wise. Harris to McKay.

Zorko is a big out, he gives us so much more energy , but win the M/F and we win this game.

Our backs are good enough to cover their forwards if their M/F doesn't get off the chain. Other end we need to put some defensive work into Weitering because he's going to outmark and probably out position any of the talls we have there.
Yep whomever is on Weitering needs to get busy. If it's Daniher then he has a blueprint from playing on Taylor: Sitting deep and wrestling BAD getting up the ground GOOD

If Weitering is on Hipwood he needs to get on his bike and we need to play through him. He is quite a nice kick and a long one so even if he marks it at 50 he can convert. I think overall his goalkicking is pretty good now - not totally reliable but has kicked some ripper set shots this year, including from the wrong side for a left footer
 

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Yeah, pressuring the ball will kill their supply and nullify Curnow. Not so worried about McKay but he takes a lot of nice grabs, so it is just dependent on whether he can kick or not.

Look at this West Coast injury list - all I can say is 'lol':

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PLAYERINJURYESTIMATED RETURN
Coby Burgiel Hamstring 3-4 weeks
Campbell Chesser Knee 2-3 weeks
Tom Cole Ankle TBC
Jamie Cripps Ankle 12-14 weeks
Harry Edwards Wrist 2-3 weeks
Elijah Hewett Ankle 2-3 weeks
Brady Hough Hamstring 1-2 weeks
Shannon Hurn Managed Test
Noah Long Hamstring 2-3 weeks
Jeremy McGovern Hamstring 7-8 weeks
Nic Naitanui Achilles 7-8 weeks
Liam Ryan Hamstring 10-12 weeks
Dom Sheed Throat TBC
Luke Shuey Ankle/hamstring 4-5 weeks
Jack Williams Spleen 3-4 weeks
Isiah Winder Hamstring TBC
Elliot Yeo Groin 3-4 weeks
Updated: April 25, 2023
 
I’m confident this will be a good game from both teams, but not as confident in getting the result we want (if both Zorko and Rich are out).

Zorko is our barometer and really lifts us when we’re in trouble, while Rich controls the backline and takes the load off the younger guys with his kicking. Our heavy kicking game plan was essentially built around him.

We’ll win the clearances (best in the comp v a poor clearance side) and have plenty of chances, but I’m very worried about our ball movement from the back half. Carlton tend to pressure and close-in really well at Marvel.
 
Look at this West Coast injury list - all I can say is 'lol':

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PLAYERINJURYESTIMATED RETURN
Coby BurgielHamstring3-4 weeks
Campbell ChesserKnee2-3 weeks
Tom ColeAnkleTBC
Jamie CrippsAnkle12-14 weeks
Harry EdwardsWrist2-3 weeks
Elijah HewettAnkle2-3 weeks
Brady HoughHamstring1-2 weeks
Shannon HurnManagedTest
Noah LongHamstring2-3 weeks
Jeremy McGovernHamstring7-8 weeks
Nic NaitanuiAchilles7-8 weeks
Liam RyanHamstring10-12 weeks
Dom SheedThroatTBC
Luke ShueyAnkle/hamstring4-5 weeks
Jack WilliamsSpleen3-4 weeks
Isiah WinderHamstringTBC
Elliot YeoGroin3-4 weeks
Updated: April 25, 2023
That's just insane . You could drum up a better team from those on the sidelines than those playing.
 
Look at this West Coast injury list - all I can say is 'lol':

west-coast.jpg

PLAYERINJURYESTIMATED RETURN
Coby BurgielHamstring3-4 weeks
Campbell ChesserKnee2-3 weeks
Tom ColeAnkleTBC
Jamie CrippsAnkle12-14 weeks
Harry EdwardsWrist2-3 weeks
Elijah HewettAnkle2-3 weeks
Brady HoughHamstring1-2 weeks
Shannon HurnManagedTest
Noah LongHamstring2-3 weeks
Jeremy McGovernHamstring7-8 weeks
Nic NaitanuiAchilles7-8 weeks
Liam RyanHamstring10-12 weeks
Dom SheedThroatTBC
Luke ShueyAnkle/hamstring4-5 weeks
Jack WilliamsSpleen3-4 weeks
Isiah WinderHamstringTBC
Elliot YeoGroin3-4 weeks
Updated: April 25, 2023

Yeah Carlton played the WAFL eagles
 
Excluding playing Norf and the remaining 14 fit players at west coast, Carlton are averaging just 68 points for a game. Curnow playing well, but McKay has been dreadful at kicking for goal and the rest of the forwards don't do much.

Take out our two games against our weakest opponents (Norf and Freo by ladder, though you could argue GWS) and we average 88 points for game.

The only hesitation I have about this one is our form away from home.
They have no one kicking goals apart from Curnow and McKay either. Their smalls arent really a threat. Especially with how slow their ball movement is.

We just need to make sure we turn up mentally in Melbourne. Apart from that final its not something we have done well much recently
 
I trust we will try to avoid the Ah Chee vs Cripps matchup this time ... would hate to see poor Patrick subjected to such soul destroying guilt again...
It still sticks in my craw because Cripps went on to win the Brownlow with votes when he should've been suspended and Cal who had cemented a spot in the team didn't fully recover last year in my view and hasn't played a Senior game this year.

Sometimes there's no justice.
 
It still sticks in my craw because Cripps went on to win the Brownlow with votes when he should've been suspended and Cal who had cemented a spot in the team didn't fully recover last year in my view and hasn't played a Senior game this year.

Sometimes there's no justice.
end of the day he was found innocent. ah chee was unfortunate but Cripps didn't seek out to hurt him. wrong place, wrong time.
 

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end of the day he was found innocent. ah chee was unfortunate but Cripps didn't seek out to hurt him. wrong place, wrong time.
Rubbish. He was not found innocent, he was found culpable by the MRO and charged, and took it to the panel and found guilty, but then the ban was overturned based off some verbiage in the AFL's instructions to the panel. At no point did any of them find Cripps innocent, in fact the reverse. Everyone that judged his actions and not some legal technicality found him to be at fault.
 
2022 Brownlow medallist: Patrick Cripps*
 
Rubbish. He was not found innocent, he was found culpable by the MRO and charged, and took it to the panel and found guilty, but then the ban was overturned based off some verbiage in the AFL's instructions to the panel. At no point did any of them find Cripps innocent, in fact the reverse. Everyone that judged his actions and not some legal technicality found him to be at fault.
nice revisionist history. there are many cases overturned on appeal. doesn't mean they're guilty.

end of the day he was cleared to play, earned the most votes and is a worthy brownlow medalist.
 
aren't all suspension decisions based on one or more technicalities? end of the day he was cleared and free to play.

it's not like they gave him free votes. he still had to go out there and earn the brownlow.
No . No suspensions are based on legal technicalities. Suspensions are based on on field actions. Of that he was found guilty.
 
nice revisionist history. there are many cases overturned on appeal. doesn't mean they're guilty.

end of the day he was cleared to play, earned the most votes and is a worthy brownlow medalist.
I think you should probably shouldnt make the argument on this board. Not likely to be a popular view at all. I dont think this board is as bad as some others, but its probably not the time or place
 
nice revisionist history. there are many cases overturned on appeal. doesn't mean they're guilty.

end of the day he was cleared to play, earned the most votes and is a worthy brownlow medalist.
His case was not overturned on the basis of any actions on the field

He set out to make a statement and belted Cal in the head , concussed him ,rightfully was suspended . The AFL and everyone involved was filthy on the outcome which was a flukey legal technicality not related to the incident. Which I daresay will never happen again.

So no. No way is he a worthy Brownlow Medallist.
 
I think you should probably shouldnt make the argument on this board. Not likely to be a popular view at all. I dont think this board is as bad as some others, but its probably not the time or place
Fair enough. End of the day all of us didn't like to see it, but the carry on to cheapen Cripps' brownlow is a bit childish tbh.

This game should be a cracker, we're in shit form but at home. Bris are in hot form but have questions on the road.

Midfield battle of the 2 master and apprentices should be exciting: Neale/Ashcroft vs Cripps/Walsh. 2 Brownlow medallists and 2 future medallists ;)
 
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