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AFLW 2024 - Round 2 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
You mean in the Do Better Report?Jog my memory, was there any evidence of racism found?
You don’t own them, shame on you.Our Indigenous players & current staff members all seem happy.
As for this Cleaver person, he'd supposedly be happy too if the Pies had handed him $250,000 over things allegedly said which found no breaches & no laws broken & no further action to be taken when investigated by both an internal review & external expert, the Vic Police & the AFL Integrity Unit.
And now the HS is reporting the Fair Work Commission investigation was unresolved only because the club wouldn't pay him the $250,000 Cleaver wanted for the allegations to go away ..
Let's see what comes out of the court case in August & we hear both sides of the story before assuming we all know what actually happened.
I wasn't there. Were you?
This article says it's over Instagram posts.
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The very public spat between Brittany Higgins and Linda Reynolds is about to be heard in court, and there's a lot at stake
With mediation attempts and extensions of olive branches falling flat, Senator Linda Reynolds's defamation trial against Brittany Higgins and her partner David Sharaz will kick off tomorrow.www.abc.net.au
Do we own our grandparents, aunts, uncles, siblings, hometown, spouses, children, employer, school, priest, doctor, carspot, football club etc? If not, gonna have to start using "the". The wife will not be impressed.You don’t own them, shame on you.
Sue me.You don’t own them, shame on you.
Yeah, but the reporters are just lifting everything from his Application to the court. Someone suggested he could be sued for defamation on that basis, I'm just not sure that's correct."Related to the conduct within the proceeding of the contravention of general protections."
The act of making baseless allegations against Craig Kelly to reporters could be construed as a form of defamation.
I’d prefer an out of court settlement, let’s say $250,000?Sue me.
Hmmm… it’s seems like he’s lost his job unfairly and wants compensation for lost income. Which is fair enough and why there is a process for it.As stated previously, I’d be the last bloke to defend collingwood/Ned, but this reeks of a money grab from the get go. Pathetic.
Just go straight to the Do Best Report. It saves of lot in time and less scandalsperhaps its time for the Do Even Better Report.
I think you've left out key facts of the story, and added a couple of points irrelevant to this case.Hmmm… it’s seems like he’s lost his job unfairly and wants compensation for lost income. Which is fair enough and why there is a process for it.
Now if the process has found that he isn’t entitled to compensation there’s a reason for that as well.
And he’s within his rights to leak all this information if he wants. His rationale might well be that he’s bitter and has nothing to lose now.
We can only look at the facts of the story though.
1. He lost his job.
2. He made a claim to fair work and it was rejected.
3. He made claims about the Collingwood CEO.
4. Collingwood have a recent history of racism as discovered in the recent ‘Do Better’ report.
5. The AFL like to sweep controversies under the carpet when it suits them - drug testing policies, Clarkson racism scandal, concussion protocol consistencies.
I think you've left out key facts of the story, and added a couple of points irrelevant to this case.
Missing facts: the DD processes and reviews already conducted by the club and on the club by external bodies in relation to this particular case.
Irrelevant points: CFC history has no bearing on the specific accusations in this particular case, and their veracity or otherwise. The AFL has a dodgy history indeed, however, do you sugfest they have the weight to push around a legal proceeding?
Hmmm… it’s seems like he’s lost his job unfairly and wants compensation for lost income. Which is fair enough and why there is a process for it.
Now if the process has found that he isn’t entitled to compensation there’s a reason for that as well.
And he’s within his rights to leak all this information if he wants. His rationale might well be that he’s bitter and has nothing to lose now.
We can only look at the facts of the story though.
1. He lost his job.
2. He made a claim to fair work and it was rejected.
3. He made claims about the Collingwood CEO.
4. Collingwood have a recent history of racism as discovered in the recent ‘Do Better’ report.
5. The AFL like to sweep controversies under the carpet when it suits them - drug testing policies, Clarkson racism scandal, concussion protocol consistencies.
Think you forgot a word in there…….’alleged’.another racism scandal...when will they finally stamp this shit out
Where is there any evidence of players not feeling culturally safe?Sad if true.
I am not thinking those players would be culturally safe.
Send SOY in, he can fix them up.
This Institutionalised Racism has to stop.
Disgusting.
Feel for them players.
What investigation is the current CFC CEO undergoing at this moment?I’m not linking the facts of Collingwoods recent history in regards to racism and this one. Just pointing out what has happened recently in this work place.
It’s for greater minds than mind to work through whether the culture may have enabled any of the alleged to have occurred. I’m not close enough to it.
If the culture has not changed within the organisation then it remains a possibility. I’d expect the CEO to be driving this change. Interestingly it’s the CEO who is under investigation. For me it’s pretty cut and dried.
Either the culture has been changed and driven by the CEO and there’s nothing to see here, or it hasn’t and the allegations may come to light as actually occurred.
In the case of the latter, it would be an absolute indictment on the club, not just the CEO. If the former, the club should look to demand recompense in damage to reputation from its former employee.
I’m also not suggesting the AFL have interfered with any external legal proceeding here either. Only that they have been quite proactive in sweeping matters that may tarnish the reputation of their brand under the carpet in the last couple of years. This is a matter that could potentially tarnish the AFL brand.
I’d be happy if the truth is revealed either way but I have a feeling we will never get to the bottom of it all.What investigation is the current CFC CEO undergoing at this moment?
I do sense a schadenfreude hope in your posts that Kelly has done wrong.
There is a directions hearing in the Federal Circuit and Family Court for August 27.Spokesperson for Pies has come out and said they support Kelly 100%, but don't want to pay $100s of thousands in compensation. Yet, still no denial of the allegations...
We'll never find out I suspect. Pies will back down and settle this in the end by throwing $$$ at this.
The statement is the statement. They are defending their case at the hearing in August. That's when the club will tell their side of the story. That's what usually happens, it's not unusual.First thing, you've quoted the statement from Wednesday. Not yesterday. Keep up.
Second thing, yes. Generally individuals or companies defending proceedings deny the allegations! They are conveniently saying they weren't "illegal conduct". Sounds like the conduct occurred to me.
The statement is the statement. They are defending their case at the hearing in August. That's when the club will tell their side of the story. That's what usually happens, it's not unusual.
Your comment is asking for them to pay compensation for something which has gone through a variety of different investigations and found nothing to answer for.
I suggest you keep up.
Club Statement. On the club's website.No I suggest you keep up.
This article does not refer to the club media statement. It is a statement subsequent from a "spokesperson" with comments not in the club statement from earlier in the week.
They are defending the unfair dismissal proceedings. They are not defending the alleged conduct occurred.
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Pies ‘guarantee’ Kelly’s job, won’t pay ‘hundreds of thousands’
Collingwood guarantee the position of Craig Kelly until the court action instigated by a former employee, who alleges racially inappropriate language and conduct by the chief executive, has been completed.www.theage.com.au
If you're going to reply to a post, it's common sense to actually know what the hell you're talking about.