List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2022-->

[Anzacday]

Key dates attached so we know what’s going on when.

• Friday 30 September at 9.00am

• AFL Restricted Free Agency and Unrestricted Free Agency Period commences

Monday 03 October at 9.00am

• AFL Trade Period commences – Players & Selections

Friday 07 October at 5.00pm

• Close of AFL Restricted Free Agency Offer and Unrestricted Free Agency Period.

Monday 10 October

• AFL Draft Nominations open (9am)
• AFL Restricted Free Agency Matching Offer 3 Day Period Ends (5pm)

Wednesday 12 October at 7.30pm

• AFL Trade Period closes – players and selections

Thursday 03 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) commences

Wednesday 09 November at 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (1) closes

Friday 11 November at 9.00am

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) commences

Tuesday 15 November by 5.00pm

• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (2) closes
• AFL Trade Period closes – selections only

Monday 21 November by 3.00pm

• AFL Draft Nominations close

Monday 28 November at 7.10pm

• 2022 AFL Draft Round One (Venue TBC)
• Father/Son, Academy & NGA and Players Bidding opens.

Tuesday 29 November

• AFL Trade Period – selections only (5.45pm to 6.30pm)
• 2022 AFL National Draft Round two until completion (7pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period opens (10pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) commences (10pm)
• Rookie Upgrade Period closes (11pm)
• AFL Delisted Player Free Agency Period (3) closes (11pm)

Wednesday 30 November

• AFL Pre-Season Draft (3pm, online)
• AFL Rookie Draft (3.20pm, online)

Thursday 01 December by 4.00pm

• Final AFL Club List Lodgement

 

[KinderSmock]

Guessing you are the one making the allegation?


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No, I read it on a few Twitter accounts. Admittedly, they're not the most accurate BUT the quantity was indicative that there's probably validity to the story. Adam Yze was unlucky not to be considered for a handful of head coaching positions so he'll be a strong consideration.

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

Hearing a couple of things on the trade front (some of which isn't a surprise to anyone).

Grundy, the belief is we will be paying 30% but will get a first round pick back from Melbourne.
Mitchell is likely to find his way to Collingwood.
The Brown brothers were surprisingly on more money than any of us would expect, that will be freed up obviously for a couple of our targets.
Frampton and Hill are basically done.

Just what I was told.

Mate, this is no surprise.

They would have been on 15-30% more than going rate. The previous admin were using afterpay before the BNPL bubble burst.

 

[Lifelong Pie]

Mate, this is no surprise.

They would have been on 15-30% more than going rate. The previous admin were using afterpay before the BNPL bubble burst.

I hope we aren't paying 1.5 million dollars for a first round pick, better if we get a later pick and don't pay as much of his salary

 

[Collingwoodity]

If we lose Grundy and obtain the fringe blokes we're linked to what's the play? They shouldn't be consuming the salary Grundy is and should realistically be covered by other outgoings and the cap increase. If there is no other big contract coming in do we have someone else in mind next year?

Just like we had Jeremy Cameron in mind? malakies. Hit the draft hard with best prospect available. Already tried trades and stuffed up so many of them it ain't funny.

Having said that, our drafting has been pretty mediocre also.

 

[Soups]

Gee, I miss the days when TD would produce a random trade extract from Facebook or twitter.

The highs and lows experienced from the hyperbolic discussion - not only from the somewhat excruciating content, but the debate generated on whether they should even be included in the trade thread..

Good times!!


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You mean since last week?

 

[iGNITER]

Any idea on the figures with B1 and B2?


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Not entirely sure, would say their combined wage would be enough to cover Mitchell or McStay.

 

[JuniorB]

Aish isn't a miss. He's still playing good footy. He was the earliest casualty of our salary cap issues.

We would have drafted Bont if he was still there, but once he was gone, the decision was between Scharenberg & Aish and we chose the former.
Scharenberg had sesamoid bone removal surgery on both feet.
It makes you wonder if the foot problems he had played a role in his later ACLs.
If we had chosen Aish, he might still be at Collingwood.
Hindsight is pointless though - we couldn't have known how Scharenberg & Freeman would pan out.

 

[No SPIN]

Thank you for that, I totally agree. We definitely need Hine gone, then and only then will we have turned over our footy department.

If GW didn’t rate Hine he’d already be gone.

 

[No SPIN]

I hope we aren't paying 1.5 million dollars for a first round pick, better if we get a later pick and don't pay as much of his salary

If we did this, I’d expect we’ve got a plan to get a Top kid. Cadman as others have said could be the one of greatest interest.
Will we really care about the money, if he’s the next Curnow/Cameron/ or Lynch?

Compare that to say a 2nd rounder where the 1.5mill becomes 1.0mill (200x5).
I don’t thinks it’s worth it.

But at $500k (100x5) then I’d take a 2nd.

 

[Everybody Panic]

If we did this, I’d expect we’ve got a plan to get a Top kid. Cadman as others have said could be the one of greatest interest.
Will we really care about the money, if he’s the next Curnow/Cameron/ or Lynch?

Compare that to say a 2nd rounder where the 1.5mill becomes 1.0mill.
I don’t thinks it’s worth it.

But at $500k, then I’d take a 2nd.

Would be a crazy strategy given you have no idea what others will pick. Cadman has been touted as a possibly top 5 pick. 300k seems like a lot, perhaps it's the difference between having a Cal Brown type on your list and a rookie.

I'd be surprised if Melbourne even had the want to take on the full Grundy wage. They've just signed a few huge deals.

 

[sr36]

No, I read it on a few Twitter accounts. Admittedly, they're not the most accurate BUT the quantity was indicative that there's probably validity to the story. Adam Yze was unlucky not to be considered for a handful of head coaching positions so he'll be a strong consideration.

You might want to look into when and where Yze did his coaching apprenticeship. He's not getting appointed anywhere until this story is fully investigated.

 

[PyrrhicVic]

Give me Cadman or give me death.

Make it happen Wrighty.

 

[Chrispiesssss]

Maybe me reading into it too much, but no sign of Ollie.

 

[No SPIN]

Would be a crazy strategy given you have no idea what others will pick. Cadman has been touted as a possibly top 5 pick. 300k seems like a lot, perhaps it's the difference between having a Cal Brown type on your list and a rookie.

I'd be surprised if Melbourne even had the want to take on the full Grundy wage. They've just signed a few huge deals.

We would definitely have certainty about the range in which Cadman or another Top kid will fall.
Eg Cadman from 4-8, and we would plan accordingly.

 

[manicpie]

Sliv

Yeah last time I had anything to do with anything Polish was at a nephew's wedding.

They were serving Slivovitz.

It's a plum brandy/spirit.

Looks like water.

Tastes like rocket fuel.

Ovitz

Give me Cadman or give me death.

Make it happen Wrighty.

Not tall enough for a KF, 194CM means he'll probably be a second or third tall, not exactly the big beast we are after

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

I hope we aren't paying 1.5 million dollars for a first round pick, better if we get a later pick and don't pay as much of his salary

Theoretically, correctly using a first round pick on a gun player will save you more than $1.5 million - A player of Nick Daicos' quality, for instance, would be worth SIGNIFICANTLY more than what he's being paid if you recruited them on the open market.

Good draft picks are worth way more than they're paid and you're way more likely to hit on a first round pick than a third round pick, so there's logic to it either way.

 

[No SPIN]

Sliv

Ovitz

Not tall enough for a KF, 194CM means he'll probably be a second or third tall, not exactly the big beast we are after

Still only 18, and already Curnow size, and with his attributes of mobility and leap.

 

[stormskye]

Maybe me reading into it too much, but no sign of Ollie.

If he’s really not there I think it speaks volumes

 

[Jen2310]

If he’s really not there I think it speaks volumes

No WHE, Elliott, Chugg.. So I don't think we can read much into this.

He's had his exit meeting, so prob spending time with his family about what he wants to do.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

No WHE, Elliott, Chugg.. So I don't think we can read much into this.

He's had his exit meeting, so prob spending time with his family about what he wants to do.

Chugg got delisted, so I'm pretty sure you can read into that one.

 

[Jen2310]

Chugg got delisted, so I'm pretty sure you can read into that one.

So did the browns and mcmahon, and they are there.

 

[Quicky]

If we did this, I’d expect we’ve got a plan to get a Top kid. Cadman as others have said could be the one of greatest interest.
Will we really care about the money, if he’s the next Curnow/Cameron/ or Lynch?

Compare that to say a 2nd rounder where the 1.5mill becomes 1.0mill (200x5).
I don’t thinks it’s worth it.

But at $500k (100x5) then I’d take a 2nd.

Cadman will be a top 3-5 draft pick. No one is going to give us one of those picks.

 

[Jen2310]

Cadman will be a top 3-5 deaft pick. No one is going to give us one of those picks.

GWS will grab him I think. They have pick 3 especially since they bid on darcy last year, wanting a tall.

 

[Quicky]

Sliv

Ovitz

Not tall enough for a KF, 194CM means he'll probably be a second or third tall, not exactly the big beast we are after

194cm is tall enough for KP imo.

 

[manicpie]

194cm is tall enough for KP imo.

My point is more around people wanting a big beast of a KF, he's certainly not that