List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2023

[MooreDaicos]

My wish list for our midfield
Retiree replacements...
Mitchell - Flanders
Adams - Clark
Pendles - Macrae
Sidey - Callaghan

 

[JLC]

My wish list for our midfield
Retiree replacements...
Mitchell - Flanders
Adams - Clark
Pendles - Macrae
Sidey - Callaghan

Which Clark?



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[Sub_Zero]

I hope we go all out for Amartey

 

[legendstatus]

My wish list for our midfield
Retiree replacements...
Mitchell - Flanders
Adams - Clark
Pendles - Macrae
Sidey - Callaghan

Which Macrae, surely not ours???

 

[Roverjg]

I hope we go all out for Amartey

He has just re-signed for 3 years

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[Sub_Zero]

He has just re-signed for 3 years

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You're kidding. ****!

 

[stormskye]

You're kidding. *!

Franklin done. He’s next in line

 

[TW Sherrin]

Degoey is huge.

188cm isn't huge. Cripps dwarfed him at stoppages.

 

[TW Sherrin]

If Pendles doesn't play mid, where would you play him.

Good question. Honestly not sure where he could start and then roll through the midfield.

My comment was a more about relying on a 35yo so much. He was in the driver seat last week as well.

 

[Apex36]

188cm isn't huge. Cripps dwarfed him at stoppages.

Being over 190cm isn’t a prerequisite to being a huge mid. He’s exactly the same weight as Cripps, despite the height difference. He’s huge.

 

[sr36]

188cm isn't huge. Cripps dwarfed him at stoppages.

He's probably about 188cm around the chest too. Massive man.

 

[stormskye]

188cm isn't huge. Cripps dwarfed him at stoppages.

Danger is as strong as they come. He’s listed at 189cm

 

[MooreDaicos]

Which Clark?



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Jhye from Geelong.

 

[MooreDaicos]

Which Macrae, surely not ours???

Yes ours, he should be much better after a full pre-season. Being injured this year with a bad back didn't help his progress.

 

[MooreDaicos]

Is Matt Crouch

5

Matt Crouch

Age

29

Ht

183cm

Wt

85kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

28.4

5star

K

12.0

4star

HB

16.4

5star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.9

5star

CL

4.8

5star

D

24.9

5star

K

9.7

4star

HB

15.1

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

2.4

3star

CL

4.4

5star

D

21.2

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

10.8

5star

M

4.4

4star

T

3.4

5star

CL

2.0

4star

worth a look? Too slow?
He should come cheap if we can't snag a young one. OOC this year.
Been in the 2s all year except the last 2 games filling in for Rachele.
Turns 29 next year. I can't remember if he is injury prone or not.

 

[AmericanMustard]

Is Matt Crouch worth a look? Too slow?
He should come cheap if we can't snag a young one. OOC this year.
Been in the 2s all year except the last 2 games filling in for Rachele.
Turns 29 next year. I can't remember if he is injury prone or not.

No

 

[TW Sherrin]

He's probably about 188cm around the chest too. Massive man.

Well disagree. In today's afl 188cm isn't huge imo.

Actually in general it isn't really tall. I've got a 16yo that's 195cm. Every generation is taller.

 

[stormskye]

Well disagree. In today's afl 188cm isn't huge imo.

Actually in general it isn't really tall. I've got a 16yo that's 195cm. Every generation is taller.

Height is not the be all for strength in afl. Dangerfield and petracca are not tall, but Goodluck tackling them. Same as Gary Ablett junior. Stength through the hips and core is more important for mids which has nothing to do with height. In the case of bont, height def helps with his overhead game however, Cripps not so much

 

[gouki88]

188cm isn't huge. Cripps dwarfed him at stoppages.

Cripps dwarfs 95% of midfielders.

 

[partypie]

Don’t think many of those not signed at this stage will be retained.
Primary list - Ruscoe Bianco Kelly Draper
Rookies - Begg Carmichael Markov Murley Wilson
Only one I really want to keep is Markov , unsure on a few others , but most won’t be re-signed

Might be a year where we see minimal changes, I think Fly has said as much, although we are looking for another recruit or two? Could also be a retirement or two that we might not necessarily be expecting outside the bubble.

There will probably have to be some shuffling between rookie and senior lists to keep a few players.

Ruscoe, Bianco and Carmichael in particular have shown previously that they can be serviceable at AFL level if we are hit hard by the injury imp again (touch wood) and, given they are all in their early 20's, there's probably a decent case to retain them (maybe delist and rookie)?

Draper is the unknown here - do we persist with a young bloke who obviously has talent but has struggled with injury and concussion or do we cut the cord now, the latter of which is probably a bit more palatable with a young bloke who hasn't really had a crack at it yet, given he was a later pick in the draft and thus the perception of wasted draft pick capital isn't really there?

Wilson is another hard decision, he's shown he can come in and play a role at AFL level but Murphy has gone past him now and is essentially a lock in our best 22. Some chance that he may get another year on the Cat A list for depth if we do delist Begg and Kelly but that's probably a slim one.

 

[partypie]

I think we will draft 2
Our 1st and Carlton’s 2nd rounder.
Promoting Johnson counts to the required picks.


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I'm a bit fuzzy on rookie list rules for mid-season draftees, would it be possible to have him remain on the rookie list for another year if he agrees to it (ie. next year count as his "third" and final rookie year)?

 

[Jen2310]

I'm a bit fuzzy on rookie list rules for mid-season draftees, would it be possible to have him remain on the rookie list for another year if he agrees to it (ie. next year count as his "third" and final rookie year)?

Yeah it’s a tad confusing to me too. But hine suggests this is his last year.
2021 year 1 even though he was picked up mid way so not even a full year.


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[sr36]

Well disagree. In today's afl 188cm isn't huge imo.

Actually in general it isn't really tall. I've got a 16yo that's 195cm. Every generation is taller.

Yeah. I think we mean different things by "huge". Weight is probably a bigger factor than height in the way I think of "huge".

 

[Scodog10]

I'm a bit fuzzy on rookie list rules for mid-season draftees, would it be possible to have him remain on the rookie list for another year if he agrees to it (ie. next year count as his "third" and final rookie year)?

I don’t know if many people outside the system could be confident answering this one, but maybe the contract cycle is a good indicator? If we take October 31st as the end of a cycle this is his third contract expiry cycle so he’s classed as a third year listed player. AFAIK a player can spend 12 years on the rookie list they would need to be delisted and re-rookied after each three year cycle.

 

[Pragmatic Shill]

I don’t know if many people outside the system could be confident answering this one, but maybe the contract cycle is a good indicator? If we take October 31st as a cycle this is his third contract expiry cycle so he’s classed as a third year listed player. AFAIK a player can spend 12 years on the rookie list they would need to be delisted and re-rookied after each three year cycle.

This is correct.