List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade and F/A Discussion 2023

[Chrispiesssss]

Young Chris would have hated all those old buildings in Europe.

Only the broken down ones

 

[RobJD]

He did look a lot more ready in his last sub game. More exposure with full games will help.

and hopefully and injury free pre-season.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Congratulations Melbourne on retaining your already longest contracted player


What a circus lmao

 

[gouki88]

Only the broken down ones

They’re the best ones!!

 

[Mollythedolly]

Nah; you’re right. He’s a required player. I’m sure the pies have offered him a contract that matches Sydney’s.

He’s contracted. We don’t need to offer him anything.

 

[Jen2310]

and hopefully and injury free pre-season.

Exactly, which he hasn't had in 2 years.

 

[DopeMaster]

Adams v Wines career stats, incredibly similar actually:

Taylor Adams and Oliver Wines

16

Oliver Wines

Age

30

Ht

187cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

24.3

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

13.3

5star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.9

5star

CL

5.1

5star

D

19.3

4star

K

8.3

3star

HB

11.0

5star

M

1.9

2star

T

2.9

4star

CL

4.0

5star

D

23.0

5star

K

12.0

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

6.4

5star

T

4.0

5star

CL

3.0

5star

AFL Stats Comparison lot

 

[Jen2310]

Points for Luke Quaynor?

Not that highly rated at this point.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

I'd be happy with that
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Can we just do the straight swap?

I love Adams but geez if Heath Shaw can basically have legs from being drafted in 2004 to another eight or so years it’d be remiss of us not to!

 

[Do_Beta_Rapport]

Personally don’t want Wines.

Reckon Fin and Allan need the minutes

 

[Jafo]

At this point (if it was this year’s draft) likely to go beyond pick 40 if we are still interested next year?

 

[RobJD]

Not that highly rated at this point.

We won't need points for Luke Quaynor - if we're to use points it will be a pick after P40

 

[Scodog10]

That was me… just wanted to check what they thought about it.

And hopefully get the proposal out there into the trade space as I really reckon it would be a great result (and fair).

I like it, but Sydney says no. It’s a lot to pay for Adams.

 

[Rusty Beam]

I like it, but Sydney says no. It’s a lot to pay for Adams.

It’s really only pick 28 or so and a 5 pick slide back in the 30’s.

I reckon they are going all out for a flag next year and be fairly desperate to get him in.

Heck some on their board reckon they’d use 19 on him (if that get it for Stephens - which I don’t think they will)

 

[unplugged]

It’s really only pick 28 or so and a 5 pick slide back in the 30’s.

I reckon they are going all out for a flag next year and be fairly desperate to get him in.

I'm not sure they're going all out per se. They had the 4th youngest list (only Essendon, North and Hawthorn younger) this year and that's before Franklin and whoever else retires.

Yes Grundy and Adams would potentially rise them up that list but time is on Sydney's side. Sydney's history does suggest they'll do anything to stay near the back page which generally comes through either big signings or constant finals appearances.

 

[Obese Arachnid]

He's requesting a trade. He's toured the facilities, clearly isn't a required player and it gives opportunity to youth. He probably wasn't thrilled by the cahoots of Ginni, either.

FFS man strop making shit up!!

 

[Obese Arachnid]

How do you get to "clearly isn't a required player"?

Don't forget the Ginni cahoots!!

 

[Chameleon75]

Congratulations Melbourne on retaining your already longest contracted player


What a circus lmao

I suspect they weren’t going to get the compo they thought they would and have now decided to make it work.

 

[unplugged]

I suspect they weren’t going to get the compo they thought they would and have now decided to make it work.

They might still have their expected compensation to work with.

 

[Ugene41]

Personally don’t want Wines.

Reckon Fin and Allan need the minutes

Wines would be a good like for like. Happy to give Macrae a good run at it but his initial output would definitely be a downgrade on Adams in a year we should be challenging.

I'd only let Adams go if we get a decent pick. And then see whether we can use that decent pick (+maybe a bit more) to try pry Tom Lynch out from a rebuilding Richmond.

 

[OniAu]

He's requesting a trade. He's toured the facilities, clearly isn't a required player and it gives opportunity to youth. He probably wasn't thrilled by the cahoots of Ginni, either.

Cahoots of Ginni ?

 

[Obese Arachnid]

Nah; you’re right. He’s a required player. I’m sure the pies have offered him a contract that matches Sydney’s.

WTF!!

This place, SuperCaoch season can't come quickly enough!!!!!

 

[The Royal Sampler]

I like it, but Sydney says no. It’s a lot to pay for Adams.

Hawthorn for Mitchell got #41, #50 and Cooper Stephens IIRC, so I’m not sure what that equates to as a single pick if we draw a line from Mitchell to Adams.

 

[Ugene41]

Hawthorn for Mitchell got #41, #50 and Cooper Stephens IIRC, so I’m not sure what that equates to as a single pick if we draw a line from Mitchell to Adams.

Difference is Hawks were looking to move Mitchell on and happy to salary dump. Adams is a required player still for us. No point moving him on unless we can get an adequate replacement.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Difference is Hawks were looking to move Mitchell on and happy to salary dump. Adams is a required player still for us. No point moving him on unless we can get an adequate replacement.

They were looking to move him on, so on that basis he would come cheaper, but on the other hand they are still paying part of his salary so would expect better draft/player compensation.