List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[stormskye]

Huston is a no from me, we have already burnt a first round pick on a role player in Schultz we can’t afford to burn another 2.

Target free agents for immediate impact while taking picks to the draft never trade

Schultz is on track to be a 200 gamer. That’s pushing twice the average games played of picks 11-20 in the draft which is around 110 games.

 

[sr36]

Only 50% of a rookies contract is counted in the salary cap
So if the cap is tight which according to media reports it still is and Fly wants to bring in players not draft picks it does make a difference

The number of rookies Vs senior list makes a difference, but Deans contract would be the same either way. Him not being signed suggests we're hoping to upgrade him. Same with all the unsigned blokes other than Joey. One or two of them may end up with contracts, but we're choosing to not commit yet as it depends on trade week.

 

[jmac70]

How did that work out? Burnt a high value pick for Schultz . While letting Ginivan go for a half eaten packet of chips

Fly wants players, not picks.

 

[Anzacday]

There’s been little whispers here and there for a couple of days re Houston to us.
One poster on the Port board has even called Chris Davies’ integrity into question off the back of it.

 

[Babylove]

How did that work out? Burnt a high value pick for Schultz . While letting Ginivan go for a half eaten packet of chips

Technically we traded him for TJ and a half eaten packet of chips

 

[Jen2310]

Fly wants players, not picks.

Too bad for fly that you actually need picks for the draft.

 

[sideswipe]

Only 50% of a rookies contract is counted in the salary cap
So if the cap is tight which according to media reports it still is and Fly wants to bring in players not draft picks it does make a difference

Not 50%, just the base.


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[Seedsfan]

Fly wants players, not picks.

Rules state you have to take picks to the draft…..

 

[Stronzatello]

Fly wants players, not picks.

We are getting picks and not in the race for Houston, unless we don’t have to give a good pick. Won’t be trading future picks for him and won’t be giving up a first if we get for Noble. Damo is wrong here.

 

[nahnah]

I don’t get the people who want to rebuild, the 2025 flag is right there for the taking

 

[sideswipe]

No, a flat $80k of a rookies contract is counted outside the cap, which is base rookie salary iirc.

90 this year. 100 next.


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[stormskye]

There’s been little whispers here and there for a couple of days re Houston to us.
One poster on the Port board has even called Chris Davies’ integrity into question off the back of it.

trade between us, Gold Coast and port? Luko, Houston, Richard’s involved with picks. MEGA TRADE

 

[Masked Magician]

I don’t get the people who want to rebuild, the 2025 flag is right there for the taking

I don't think anyone is suggesting a full blown rebuild, more so attack the off season like we did post 2022.

Kept our first rounder - drafted Allan

Trade for needs - Hill, Mitchell, Frampton

Acquire talent through FA - McStay

 

[manicpie]

We are getting picks and not in the race for Houston, unless we don’t have to give a good pick. Won’t be trading future picks for him and won’t be giving up a first if we get for Noble. Damo is wrong here.

Wouldn't trying to get next years first into this draft be a better way to go. After watching the under 17s yesterday, that draft has hairs on it

 

[Seedsfan]

Schultz is on track to be a 200 gamer. That’s pushing twice the average games played of picks 11-20 in the draft which is around 110 games.

Your point? He is an average footballer, using your metrics to justify it we took way unders for Jack.

Trading for the sake of trading is futile. Target free agents to make an immediate impact while taking picks to the draft to develop the next gen

 

[nahnah]

I don't think anyone is suggesting a full blown rebuild, more so attack the off season like we did post 2022.

Kept our first rounder - drafted Allan

Trade for needs - Hill, Mitchell, Frampton

Acquire talent through FA - McStay

I reckon some people want to rebuild.
Dan Houston 2x all Australian best half back in the league, what’s there to be afraid of? Look at Zorko these half back types can play for years into their 30’s

 

[Go Woods]

pies should definitely try to land Houston ..A grade talent a must to compete again

Houston & Ollie Lord for hopefully GC's pick 12, 2025 1st & Richards.

 

[Fat Jesus]

Your point? He is an average footballer, using your metrics to justify it we took way unders for Jack.

Trading for the sake of trading is futile. Target free agents to make an immediate impact while taking picks to the draft to develop the next gen

Only thing average is your football brain.
He is elite. Stats do not lie.
I guess Fly and friends have NFI. But you do.

 

[Sweeetleftfoot]

Huston is a no from me, we have already burnt a first round pick on a role player in Schultz we can’t afford to burn another 2.

Target free agents for immediate impact while taking picks to the draft never trade

If we add in Houston ( who is the best HBF) then we are contending again.

If I’m picking between an unknown quantity or a known quantity ( who significantly improves us) then I’m all for it.
Especially when I see us in contention next year.

 

[Seedsfan]

Only thing average is your football brain.
He is elite. Stats do not lie.
I guess Fly and friends have NFI. But you do.

Lachie Schultz elite? FMD I have heard it all now

 

[Seedsfan]

If we add in Houston ( who is the best HBF) then we are contending again.

If I’m picking between an unknown quantity or a known quantity ( who significantly improves us) then I’m all for it.
Especially when I see us in contention next year.

When have we not got burnt by trading multiple first rounders?

Huston is a good player yet so was Tim Taranto and look how that backfired on Richmond.

 

[manicpie]

If we add in Houston ( who is the best HBF) then we are contending again.

If I’m picking between an unknown quantity or a known quantity ( who significantly improves us) then I’m all for it.
Especially when I see us in contention next year.

Spot on, just ignore the seedy one, sounds like he got out of the wrong side of the bed

 

[Fat Jesus]

Lachie Schultz elite? FMD I have heard it all now

You can't beat dumb
Look at his stats. Stated as elite in most of them.
Why post at all. It shows you have zero idea.
You are putting yourself up for ridicule.
Call Fly and complain FFS

 

[stormskye]

Your point? He is an average footballer, using your metrics to justify it we took way unders for Jack.

Trading for the sake of trading is futile. Target free agents to make an immediate impact while taking picks to the draft to develop the next gen

You are overvaluing the pick. That’s my point

 

[manicpie]

You can't beat dumb
Look at his stats. Stated as elite in most of them.
Why post at all. It shows you have zero idea.
You are putting yourself up for ridicule.
Call Fly and complain FFS

See, that's why we let seedsman go to Adelaide