List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[Seedsfan]

It helps Dan is already a star in a position of need. Other than Naicos who is better than him? The injury risk also applies to the unknown draftee and we’ve already suffered on that front multiple times.

We have suffered paying overs for players at the trade table. Beams mental health issues Treloar the double hamstrings we never got value on the trade.

Collingwood’s issue for mine is not that draft picks have failed with injury as Freeman and Scharenberg would be 30 themselves next year.

It’s that we took a gamble in 2020 loading up with kids, Henry, Finn, Reef, Poulter, McMahon, McCreey, Ginivan and Chugg. 8 kids in one year is a lot to bring in, we lost Henry and Ginivan two who made the cut, Fin and Reef haven’t delivered, Poulter McMahon and Chugg all got cut and McCreey is the only one from that 8 that made it. The gamble in 2020 was that we could find some diamonds in the rough due to the season being cancelled and no top age form to judge off, it failed

 

[gerryg400]

If Rioli is worth more than pick 6 then what is Houston worth.

Yikes

13 plus Owies.

 

[Apex36]

If Rioli is worth more than pick 6 then what is Houston worth.

Yikes

That’s the wild thing about this trade period. A pretty average contracted player in Rioli who’s never been and will likely never be AA, is going to end up being significantly more expensive to trade for than current dual AA, also contracted, Houston. Just bizarre.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

It’s not a conspiracy it is what has happened every time we have traded out our future first. It’s why we should be cautious

I know

But you seem to be implying it happens because we trade that pick

 

[Seedsfan]

Given the absolute lottery nature of the draft versus trading for a known commodity, this comment is legitimately hilarious.

Yet it has never worked out for us. Also the issue I raised was we are paying too much for 13 and 29 if it means Noble and a first rounder when Rioli is supposed to be worth 6 and 23 on his own

 

[Kilmo]

We have suffered paying overs for players at the trade table. Beams mental health issues Treloar the double hamstrings we never got value on the trade.

Collingwood’s issue for mine is not that draft picks have failed with injury as Freeman and Scharenberg would be 30 themselves next year.

It’s that we took a gamble in 2020 loading up with kids, Henry, Finn, Reef, Poulter, McMahon, McCreey, Ginivan and Chugg. 8 kids in one year is a lot to bring in, we lost Henry and Ginivan two who made the cut, Fin and Reef haven’t delivered, Poulter McMahon and Chugg all got cut and McCreey is the only one from that 8 that made it. The gamble in 2020 was that we could find some diamonds in the rough due to the season being cancelled and no top age form to judge off, it failed

In hindsight we should have tried to bundle some of those 2020 picks to move down the draft order. There wasn't really anyone better in that draft at those picks so we didn't really screw up the picks, only the trading.

In other words, we would have been better off trading away our first round pick(s) than taking them to the draft ...

 

[Bussie]

All good to have a great half back, but when we rebound, who are we kicking it to?

 

[flagpies2323]

Haha if I was Collingwood I would and Gold Coast want to trade 13 to Carlton if I was lep don’t trade noble

 

[gtrain23]

All good to have a great half back, but when we rebound, who are we kicking it to?

Sweet jesus
Really?

 

[Bussie]

Sweet jesus
Really?

Cox? McStay? Checkers?
Cox couldn't get a kick in an electric chair, McStay will have the biggest defender on him and Ceckers is undersized and will also have a big defender. Everyone else is undersized and sluggish.

 

[Matt_352]

All good to have a great half back, but when we rebound, who are we kicking it to?

Are you ok?

 

[DKS17]

Cox? McStay? Checkers?
Cox couldn't get a kick in an electric chair, McStay will have the biggest defender on him and Ceckers is undersized and will also have a big defender. Everyone else is undersized and sluggish.

god I wonder how we ever won a premiership with those guys playing for us and nick rebounding from half back kicking it to them...

 

[Seedsfan]

In hindsight we should have tried to bundle some of those 2020 picks to move down the draft order. There wasn't really anyone better in that draft at those picks so we didn't really screw up the picks, only the trading.

In other words, we would have been better off trading away our first round pick(s) than taking them to the draft ...

Max Holmes over Fin, Ollie Lord over Liam McMahon

 

[Gymnorhina tibic]

So we get Houston and give Noble, Richards and F1, and maybe drop down this year a few spots. The rest is just moving picks around that come out of the trade/s yeah?

Do it.

 

[Hardas]

Cox? McStay? Checkers?
Cox couldn't get a kick in an electric chair, McStay will have the biggest defender on him and Ceckers is undersized and will also have a big defender. Everyone else is undersized and sluggish.

Sluggish?
Elliott, Hill, McCreery etc are sluggish?

 

[Seedsfan]

god I wonder how we ever won a premiership with those guys playing for us and nick rebounding from half back...

Nick was a mid when we won the flag

 

[Jen2310]

 

[Seedsfan]

Cox? McStay? Checkers?
Cox couldn't get a kick in an electric chair, McStay will have the biggest defender on him and Ceckers is undersized and will also have a big defender. Everyone else is undersized and sluggish.

Not been Cox’s biggest fan over the journey but you do realise they strap you into the electric chair? So nobody would kick in old sparky

 

[Pistol Night]

All good to have a great half back, but when we rebound, who are we kicking it to?

Mihocek or McStay with Bobby, Elliot, Schultz and McCreery buzzing around the drop of the ball. More often than not Nick is already pushing forward too. If Titch or even Perryman can play some serious midfield minutes i like the idea of DeGoey deep forward alot. Jordy is a 50-60 goal a year FF if we had the luxury.

 

[Pistol Night]

Tell GC they can have him if they hurry up with our trade proposal

 

[Chrispiesssss]

If Houston ends up at the Blues and we miss out on pick 13, I’d trade Noble & future 2nd for Blues 1st round pick in 2025 (GCS would have it).

Would be amazing to death ride to the Boos

 

[Jafo]

Anyone think now with Wrongy at the Baggers helm that he’ll have a hand in them now offering current 1st and future 1st for Houston?

 

[Hardas]

Please tell me LDU & his whole fam eere Pies' supporters...

 

[gtrain23]

Are you ok?

Surely he barracks for someone else

 

[Fruit]

Houston’s output at the Pies could be even more significant than what it’s been at Port if Darcy gets back to his intercept marking best and we can turn the opposition around quickly again.