List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[Jen2310]

 

[stormskye]

daicos, degoey, Mitchell, Pendles, crisp, perryman, Allan. With McGuane next year.

Don’t need peatling. Other spots to fill

 

[nahnah]

Peatling is a spud

 

[Matt_352]

daicos, degoey, Mitchell, Pendles, crisp, perryman, Allan. With McGuane next year.

Don’t need peatling. Other spots to fill

Yeah agree Tall defender is most important now. I'd like Houston too.

 

[sideswipe]

You got the ‘love’ for rejection of humility

Friends don't let friends stay humble.

 

[Buena]

Peatling is a spud

if he's a spud, then he's Potatoes au Gratin

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[gouki88]

Peatling is a spud

Simon Buckley 2.0

 

[Bramax]

He just needs to get fitter and hit the side of a barn with his goal kicking and everything will be fine

You may be mistakenly concluding his body type equates to a lack of fitness.
His gut running both ways and how far he gets up the field to apply pressure and tackle the opposition (he’s also in top half dozen in the league for tackles in F50) indicates his fitness is exceptional.
Without his nuggety build, he wouldn’t be able to use his body as a battering ram either. His courage, run and tackling was a standout this year.

 

[Horaceg]

Yep

Not sure how that really changes what I said

Schultz is really only the one miss of Wrights imo. He's allowed one surely?

I don’t see it as a miss, in hindsight we overpaid but in reality the cost blew out because we underperformed on the field.

Not GW’s fault.

Shoota will be an asset for us, I’m not putting leftie on it because Jesse White already cost me leftie.

 

[whiskeytown]

daicos, degoey, Mitchell, Pendles, crisp, perryman, Allan. With McGuane next year.

Don’t need peatling. Other spots to fill

Pendles and Mitchell at the end… but agree there’s enough there for next year… look at another mid in 12 months time

Now time to find the Murphy replacement we need to stabilise things down back… but not much quality left in the out of contract market

Best hope is a quality contracted defender suddenly nominates the pies

Otherwise.,, with Moore down on form, Howe ageing and Dean and Frampton average…holding oppositions forwards could become an Achilles heel for the pies next year…

 

[cfc19902010]

You may be mistakenly concluding his body type equates to a lack of fitness.
His gut running both ways and how far he gets up the field to apply pressure and tackle the opposition (he’s also in top half dozen in the league for tackles in F50) indicates his fitness is exceptional.
Without his nuggety build, he wouldn’t be able to use his body as a battering ram either. His courage, run and tackling was a standout this year.

Definitely looked slimmer at dockers

He misses easy goals And occasionally makes poor decisions

Small forwards especially ones that have cost a lot need to kick these goals

 

[Horaceg]

What I find odd about his composure/disposal was that it seemed to be a strength of his coming in?

All his highlights showed he was a decent disposer and during the pre-season games he was delivering absolute bullets.

Made watching all his misses and turnovers perplexing to see.

Focus on your first line, that’s correct IMHO.

 

[Bramax]

Yep

Not sure how that really changes what I said

Schultz is really only the one miss of Wrights imo. He's allowed one surely?

He’s not a miss based upon output this season.
He’s above average in more metrics than not, and elite in F50 tackles.
And he will only get better.

 

[Pistol Night]

He’s not a miss based upon output this season.
He’s above average in more metrics than not, and elite in F50 tackles.
And he will only get better.
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So basically he’s an above average bust? Confusing

 

[Bramax]

So basically he’s an above average bust? Confusing

Appears so.

 

[Bramax]

Definitely looked slimmer at dockers

He misses easy goals And occasionally makes poor decisions

Small forwards especially ones that have cost a lot need to kick these goals

Maybe our weights program have beefed him up
He has no fear and no respect for his body with how hard how he hits the contest. He is tough as nails.
I was mainly referring to any doubts on his aerobic capacity. I think he’s a bit of a freak that way. Solid build but can run all day with decent pace. I think he’s very fit.

 

[cfc19902010]

Maybe our weights program have beefed him up
He has no fear and no respect for his body with how hard how he hits the contest. He is tough as nails.
I was mainly referring to any doubts on his aerobic capacity. I think he’s a bit of a freak that way. Solid build but can run all day with decent pace. I think he’s very fit.

The disposal efficiency is a concern

 

[cityslick1]

Where’s my boy membrey

Not sure why the interest here. You are aware of his personal issues are you not…? I think st kilda were happy to run down his contract and supportively say thanks, and best of luck…

 

[Bramax]

I don’t see it as a miss, in hindsight we overpaid but in reality the cost blew out because we underperformed on the field.

Not GW’s fault.

Shoota will be an asset for us, I’m not putting leftie on it because Jesse White already cost me leftie.

If we can seperate the two - output and what we paid, then he hits the mark with output. And of course he could have kicked more goals during the year because he missed some sitters he should’ve been around the 30 - 35 goal mark but he did work up the ground a bit.
So far as what we paid, we can wait and see. In a year or so we may think we did ok.

 

[Bramax]

The disposal efficiency is a concern

Imagine if he tidied that stat up then?
You get points for identifying one stat he could be better on but he still did just fine everywhere else.
I think he’ll do even better next season.

 

[stormskye]

Not sure why the interest here. You are aware of his personal issues are you not…? I think st kilda were happy to run down his contract and supportively say thanks, and best of luck…

It’s more said in jest city. But I still like his aerial game. I’d take him for the lack of cost but with our lack of list spots nothings happening

 

[cfc19902010]

Imagine if he tidied that stat up then?
You get points for identifying one stat he could be better on but he still did just fine everywhere else.
I think he’ll do even better next season.

When your a small forward

A big part of your job is to kick and handball well and efficiently and make the most of your opportunities which he doesn’t do yet

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

I’m no draft expert. But simply saying our first next year should net us 12 this year is far to simplistic.
This year’s draft is reported as very deep. Next year by all reports is not as strong, and seems even more full of academy players. So to simply say for example pick 10-12 next year is the same as pick 12 this year makes no sense. If the top 20 this year is the equivalent of top 10 next year then the pick value is diff. None of us have scouting notes in every kid this year or next. The clubs do. So they know the values of the picks more than anyone here. They will know what quality they could potentially get in pick ranges. That’s their job.

Second to this, it’s already clear Gold Coast has multiple suitors wanting pick 12. It’s a bidding war. In an auction, you are going to pay more.

I don’t know the value. But it’s not a straight swap.

That's why you insist that Noble is part of the trade. We get first shot at getting that pick.

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Pendles and Mitchell at the end… but agree there’s enough there for next year… look at another mid in 12 months time

Now time to find the Murphy replacement we need to stabilise things down back… but not much quality left in the out of contract market

Best hope is a quality contracted defender suddenly nominates the pies

Otherwise.,, with Moore down on form, Howe ageing and Dean and Frampton average…holding oppositions forwards could become an Achilles heel for the pies next year…

Moore was back to his best in the final month of the season. It just wasn't widely acknowledged because we were out of finals contention

I'm still willing to give Dean one more season to show something

Otherwise Eyre needs a chance to show what he can do

 

[brockbruiser]

There appears to be a complete misunderstanding on this board about what it takes to get free agents in the door.

Yes, comparatively you are paying for free agents more than their market value, but the trade off is you aren't using a pick. The above market payments is exactly that cost. Good projections will show that the $850k for instance over 6 years falls in line with an average payment and if we have spotted talent effectively he will reach that potential.

Our biggest issue at the moment is not being able to get players in due to lack of picks. We have the cap space which will only free up further next year with retirements.

If we win the premiership next year you won't be coming back here complaining about slightly over paying for perryman.