List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[stormskye]

tell GC 23 won't cut it for Noble - if we don't get 13 then we don't get Houston - therefore Noble stays as he is a required player. They are the ones who need to get the deal done.

Still reckon we’d be keen on 13 regardless of Houston. So we’d want to get some form of deal done with GC for noble

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

The issue with that is once you trade out a F2nd you can't trade out your F1st. It would lock us out of the Houston deal imo.

Aaaah ok

I didn’t realise that. Fair enough.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I don't think we need to worry about Carlton. Reading between the lines, they are clearly trying to shop Owies to GC for 13, and they are having none of it.

I really don't understand why Blues don't want to keep Owies. They need small forwards who can kick goals.

 

[Jen2310]

tell GC 23 won't cut it for Noble - if we don't get 13 then we don't get Houston - therefore Noble stays as he is a required player. They are the ones who need to get the deal done.

No I mean pies offering F1 and Noble for 13 and 23. But Suns only want to give 13 for noble. They don't want to include 23 in that as well.

 

[josewales]

I really don't understand why Blues don't want to keep Owies. They need small forwards who can kick goals.

Carlton are short on list spots - they have to let a few go and Owies is the easiest. I think there are clubs out there who will take him but they know they will have to cut him if he can't find a home during the trade period.

 

[TheVillageIdiot7]

I don’t think the 2020 trade period was a high point in Collingwoods history. Not necessarily representative of our overall list management history which has been acceptable to good.

I think the opposite.
Well, maybe not the full opposite.....half of it was absolutely spot on....the other half was arrogance.

Without 2020....we 100% don't win 2023.

The offloading of players for cap space was a great move.
I said it at the time. It wasn't the disaster everyone thinks it was.
Its important to split the execution of the strategy vs the reason we needed that strategy.

The PR around it was the reason everyone hates it. The lying was what made it worse.
It was also the first time clubs had openly used cap as a trading resource.
So the media didn't really understand WTF was happening and hence couldn't believe the 'value' we got back.
But the strategy of it was absolutely solid.

The decision to move on the pick in 21 was the half that reeked of arrogance!
Club felt that players "not exposed to elite pathways" because of covid would get us some higher talented players with the picks we had.....massive fail!

Anyway, i'm sure this position won't be popular

 

[satanshoof101]

No I mean pies offering F1 and Noble for 13 and 23. But Suns only want to give 13 for noble. They don't want to include 23 in that as well.

Begs the question do Port want to trade pick 13 + Richards for Houston? Would we have to trade future 1st + 2nd to get the deal done?

 

[josewales]

No I mean pies offering F1 and Noble for 13 and 23. But Suns only want to give 13 for noble. They don't want to include 23 in that as well.

they are dreaming - they are the ones who want a contracted player - No doubt Hardwick has told them what he wants and I don't believe they will disappoint him. We need to take advantage of this and get overs, not unders

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Carlton are short on list spots - they have to let a few go and Owies is the easiest. I think there are clubs out there who will take him but they know they will have to cut him if he can't find a home during the trade period.

Well let's hope they lose Owies, don't get Houston & the Campo boys are duds.

Great strategy Carlscum.

 

[Jen2310]

Jack Hayes done a medical

 

[Seedsfan]

No I mean pies offering F1 and Noble for 13 and 23. But Suns only want to give 13 for noble. They don't want to include 23 in that as well.

Then we keep Noble

 

[Hardas]

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[Scodog10]

No I mean pies offering F1 and Noble for 13 and 23. But Suns only want to give 13 for noble. They don't want to include 23 in that as well.

That’s part of the negotiation process just as our ask of 13, 23 and 29 was overs. The two will inevitably meet in the middle and once Richards and Lukocious are thrown in the mix it becomes a week two trade. Fantastic fodder for trade radio.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

I think the opposite.
Well, maybe not the full opposite.....half of it was absolutely spot on....the other half was arrogance.

Without 2020....we 100% don't win 2023.

The offloading of players for cap space was a great move.
I said it at the time. It wasn't the disaster everyone thinks it was.
Its important to split the execution of the strategy vs the reason we needed that strategy.

The PR around it was the reason everyone hates it. The lying was what made it worse.
It was also the first time clubs had openly used cap as a trading resource.
So the media didn't really understand WTF was happening and hence couldn't believe the 'value' we got back.
But the strategy of it was absolutely solid.

The decision to move on the pick in 21 was the half that reeked of arrogance!
Club felt that players "not exposed to elite pathways" because of covid would get us some higher talented players with the picks we had.....massive fail!

Anyway, i'm sure this position won't be popular

Absolutely it was the train crash we needed to have.

But overall it wasn’t handled well, players were traded away with terrible bad will and poor trading out comes, and trading the future pick was a mistake in hindsight. That said it needed to be traded regardless as Nicky D was in the pipeline… our drop to 17th the next year regardless of “ arrogance” was unexpected.

My main point being 2020 was the exception not the rule.

 

[iGNITER]

Not bad on the cheap.

 

[stormskye]

Jack Hayes done a medical

Doesn’t bode well for Krueger.

 

[nahnah]

Jack Hayes medical at pies according to my source

 

[loki04]

Word is GC dont want to give 23, Cal Twomey said this too on trade desk.

So 13 and 29?

 

[Scodog10]

Jack Hayes done a medical

Cousin of Daicos loves this. Literally couldn’t think of a worse fit

 

[stormskye]

Cousin of Daicos loves this. Literally couldn’t think of a worse fit

Only played 6 games due to injuries but they said he’s polled Brownlow in 2, as a tall

 

[gouki88]

Cousin of Daicos loves this. Literally couldn’t think of a worse fit

Cox backup? Might be looking for a depth tall who can actually ruck a bit (unlike Kreuger's kamikaze)

 

[Jen2310]

Jack Hayes medical at pies according to my source

Thanks Mitch Cleary

 

[danielnajdek]

No I mean pies offering F1 and Noble for 13 and 23. But Suns only want to give 13 for noble. They don't want to include 23 in that as well.

That would be a horrible deal for us. Do they realise Wright doesn't work or us anymore?

 

[Jen2310]

So 13 and 29?

Now, that could be possible.

 

[Pistol Night]

Only played 6 games due to injuries but they said he’s polled Brownlow in 2, as a tall

Didn't he kick 3 against us on debut? Was really good that night