List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade and FA

[JLC]

Wow there is an article suggesting kangaroos give up pick 2 or 3 for Tom Lynch and pick 15 or 20 lol ffs

Ben Cotton has to be a Tigers nuffie?

 

[No SPIN]

I want change because our drafting record in last 10 years is sub standard. Stat.

and yet can't offer a recruiter with a better record of Club success than Hine over that period.
So the other guys must be deplorable by comparison.

 

[Harry O]

and yet can't offer a recruiter with a better record of Club success than Hine over that period.
So the other guys must be deplorable by comparison.

These are better currently and not living off Pendlebury selection-

Steve Conole Brisbane
Simon Dalrymple Dogs/Swans/Saints
David Walls Freo
Kinnear Beatson Sydney
Jason Taylor Melbourne
Steven Wells Geelong
Mark McKenzie Hawthorn

 

[NMBB]

how do you win a flag without the cattle?
Surely you're not saying recruiters have no role in the success of a Club.

Recruiters definitely have a role - they get the cattle to the club - approx what % of a flag is that worth compared to the coaches' role? - training, fitness, game plan, motivation - blah blah

 

[jmac70]

Recruiters definitely have a role - they get the cattle to the club - approx what % of a flag is that worth compared to the coaches' role - training, fitness, game plan, motivation - blah blah

I reckon enjoyment is a significant factor too.
McRae has established a positive culture that the players enjoy being a part of.

Difficult time at the moment, but I think our culture will help to turn it around.

 

[No SPIN]

These are better currently and not living off Pendlebury selection-

Steve Conole Brisbane
Simon Dalrymple Dogs/Swans/Saints
David Walls Freo
Kinnear Beatson Sydney
Jason Taylor Melbourne
Steven Wells Geelong
Mark McKenzie Hawthorn

Steven Wells the closest to Hine's Record,
That's about it.
So there's no one with a better record to replace Hine - I think the debate is over.

 

[JLC]

and yet can't offer a recruiter with a better record of Club success than Hine over that period.
So the other guys must be deplorable by comparison.

I just hope Derek has the good grace each year to write Peter and Colleen a Christmas card.

 

[Mollythedolly]

Could give you 10

We don’t have the balls to make the hard call on Hine

Happy to wait for the list of 10 and the justification for their ranking.

 

[TakingThePies]

Could give you 10

We don’t have the balls to make the hard call on Hine

Hard call? Who's out there to take his roll. It's not a role thats sort after. No one wants pressure like that.

 

[gouki88]

Hard call? Who's out there to take his roll. It's not a role thats sort after. No one wants pressure like that.

BigFooty direct democracy is the answer

 

[TakingThePies]

BigFooty direct democracy is the answer

Everyone gets one week in the role.

 

[cakewalk06]

Some bloke called Dodoro has plenty of free time on his hands?

 

[Lifelong Pie]

Hard call? Who's out there to take his roll. It's not a role thats sort after. No one wants pressure like that.

I think we should just forget about paying our recruiters and then we can wait for Cal Twomeys top 30 and big footy phantom drafts/ opinions and just draft from there, problems would be sorted

 

[nasi175]

ok, so they wouldn't make us a

ok, so they wouldn't make us a better side?

Not saying that. Context is everything if we had them maybe we would not be able to obtain the key pieces for the 2023 flag or 2018 GF. It is the bottom six that gets you the opportunity to win a flag. Hine has created a very even squad that suits our strengths and game style. Anyone can nit pick drafts, reality is Hine has created a competitive squad parallel to Geelong and Sydney over last 20 years

 

[JLC]

Hard call? Who's out there to take his roll. It's not a role thats sort after. No one wants pressure like that.

What pressure or scrutiny has Hine faced?

One of the better AFL gigs going around.

 

[sam_e]

What pressure or scrutiny has Hine faced?

One of the better AFL gigs going around.

reckon he's over-rated on the drafting side of things, esp. talls (discussed ad infinitum) and also in 20-40 (circa 2nd round) draft range (has had some success in latter draft range)

performance in recent years (excluding FS and NGA) is poor.

strategy to shop in the $2 SSA bin, particularly for talls given they're more than likely mature and have more exposed form, for mine, is seriously flawed.

the club's flagrant mis-use of first rounders has been one of the real reasons why we've been unable to embark on anything like a successful 'dynasty' (read back2back)

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

What I will say about hine is that he has selected our 2 best draft picks ever that were not father son in Pendlebury and Sidebottom. Also our 1st and 2nd most games played. Since he has been at the club since 2004? We have won 2 premierships in 19 years which is above average. He hasnt done a bad job.

 

[Jen2310]

What I will say about hine is that he has selected our 2 best draft picks ever that were not father son in Pendlebury and Sidebottom. Also our 1st and 2nd most games played. Since he has been at the club since 2004? We have won 2 premierships in 19 years which is above average. He hasnt done a bad job.

he also selected de goey and maynard in the one draft. Neither were FS or academies. So good selections.

 

[Seedsfan]

What I will say about hine is that he has selected our 2 best draft picks ever that were not father son in Pendlebury and Sidebottom. Also our 1st and 2nd most games played. Since he has been at the club since 2004? We have won 2 premierships in 19 years which is above average. He hasnt done a bad job.

Dane Swan

 

[soreplums]

What I will say about hine is that he has selected our 2 best draft picks ever that were not father son in Pendlebury and Sidebottom. Also our 1st and 2nd most games played. Since he has been at the club since 2004? We have won 2 premierships in 19 years which is above average. He hasnt done a bad job.

And a few runners up

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Dane Swan

Great player. Certainly could be second behind Pendlebury in terms of draft selections. Him and Sidebottom are very close imo maybe Swan by a bit.

 

[jmac70]

reckon he's over-rated on the drafting side of things, esp. talls (discussed ad infinitum) and also in 20-40 (circa 2nd round) draft range (has had some success in latter draft range)

performance in recent years (excluding FS and NGA) is poor.

strategy to shop in the $2 SSA bin, particularly for talls given they're more than likely mature and have more exposed form, for mine, is seriously flawed.

the club's flagrant mis-use of first rounders has been one of the real reasons why we've been unable to embark on anything like a successful 'dynasty' (read back2back)

This season is not over yet. We can also challenge next year.

 

[Harry O]

Great player. Certainly could be second behind Pendlebury in terms of draft selections. Him and Sidebottom are very close imo maybe Swan by a bit.

Dane Swan was Noel Judkins

 

[Pleasedontfail11]

Dane Swan was Noel Judkins

Forgot about Swan. But he was a bit of a stab in the dark like selection.

 

[Seedsfan]

Forgot about Swan. But he was a bit of a stab in the dark like selection.

No he wasn’t, it was astute recruiting.

Back then if you turned 18 before round one you could get drafted out of your bottom age year. Swan had a very strong end to the season and they felt he was a potential top 10 in the next draft so took him early