List Mgmt. Collingwood Trade Talk 2016 Part 3

[TW Sherrin]

Depends if 4 premierships or the coin matters more to him? Wonder if Buddy regrets losing the last 3 grand finals he's been in or if the $1 million a year makes it ok? Probably depends on the person.

buddy would've been on 800k+ anyway so he's not a million a year in front.

 

[MagpieJoel]

Geelong didn't do the best job either with Stevie J at GWS and Chappy at Essendon etc...?

Or Kelly IIRC.

 

[MagpieJoel]

I could have sworn they received a very emotional send off at skilled stadium (along with Stokes). Mitchell won't be afforded the same opportunity unfortunately.

A send off? They were retired before they were ready. It wasn't done well at all.

 

[donnie5]

Mayne and Hoskin-Elliot will be good additions to our forwardline. Hopefully we get both deals done, our forwardline is going to be quiet dynamic next season.

Fasolo - Moore - Mayne
Elliot - White - Hoskin-Elliot

I actually quite like it. If White can continue his serviceable form from late in the year then happy days. I believe Mayne will be a really good addition, he needed a change of scenario in my honest opinion.

 

[frizzle]

Mayne and Hoskin-Elliot will be good additions to our forwardline. Hopefully we get both deals done, our forwardline is going to be quiet dynamic next season.

Fasolo - Moore - Mayne
Elliot - White - Hoskin-Elliot

I actually quite like it. If White can continue his serviceable form from late in the year then happy days. I believe Mayne will be a really good addition, he needed a change of scenario in my honest opinion.

That forward line doesn't fill me with confidence at all.

 

[Kilmo]

I could have sworn they received a very emotional send off at skilled stadium (along with Stokes). Mitchell won't be afforded the same opportunity unfortunately.

Like the emotional send off that Boomer et al. got?

 

[Wooljay]

That forward line doesn't fill me with confidence at all.

Fasolo - showed potential of being a 40-50 goal player this year barring injury
Elliott - comes back hopefully in 2014/15 form and could potentially have a similar output (inarguably our best forward when on song)
Mayne - serviceable role player in the forward line, upgrade on Blair
Moore - developing KPP, no point putting any goal targets on him but obviously has the potential in spades
White - serviceable to good, pinch hit in the ruck and showed at the back end of the season that he's a serious contributor
WHE - topline pick, huge upside

I honestly don't see how that's too bad of a forward setup.

 

[unplugged]

Every day that passes by with no trades... just means that the next days ahead are going to potentially going to get more intense.

Now we have 6 days left.

Any chance we could spread it all out rather than have 20 pick swaps on the last hour next Thursday?

 

[BEEG]

Every day that passes by with no trades... just means that the next days ahead are going to potentially going to get more intense.

Now we have 6 days left.

Any chance we could spread it all out rather than have 20 pick swaps on the last hour next Thursday?

Its all dick swinging for the first couple days.

 

[doodles98]

Poor form Hawthorn! This one stinks worse than our decision to move Shaw. What sort of message does it send to have a guy take unders for a number of years only to turf them out for the shiny new toy? I never expected to see something like this from them. Fair enough if he nets them an early pick, but he's not going too so its just a sad situation.

my initial thoughts exactly...

 

[unplugged]

With Blair being an RFA and therefore supposedly in our top 25% earners, does this alone effect what compensation we'd get for him?

Or does it solely depend on what his next club offers him, in the way of contract amount, length, etc.?

Surely if a club takes one of our "best 25%" players it would be grounds for some good compensation. Which would tell me that's been the club's planning going into this season, which would be smart.

Just on the provision that he was to go somewhere that is. There hasn't yet been any news on Blair AFAIK.

 

[TradeDraft]

• a deal on Chris Mayne is "very close" but until the paperwork is in, the deal is not done

So expect it to be done in the next 24 Hours

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-ne...-live-coverage-day-three-20161011-gs075s.html

 

[unplugged]

Its all dick swinging for the first couple days.

Nothing quite like some dick swinging.

Barrett saying he's going to confirm a few more details before trying to provide an update on where Collingwood are at this trade period. Not sure if he's talking players in or player out.

 

[mattys123]

With Blair being an RFA and therefore supposedly in our top 25% earners, does this alone effect what compensation we'd get for him?

Or does it solely depend on what his next club offers him, in the way of contract amount, length, etc.?

Surely if a club takes one of our "best 25%" players it would be grounds for some good compensation. Which would tell me that's been the club's planning going into this season, which would be smart.

Just on the provision that he was to go somewhere that is. There hasn't yet been any news on Blair AFAIK.

Blair agreed to a contract extension a while back I thought.

Only Brown and Williams have question marks over their heads now.

Williams wouldn't qualify for any compensation but Brown might. If we hadn't of taken Wells of course, who cancels out any chance of compensation for us.

 

[frizzle]

Fasolo - showed potential of being a 40-50 goal player this year barring injury
Elliott - comes back hopefully in 2014/15 form and could potentially have a similar output (inarguably our best forward when on song)
Mayne - serviceable role player in the forward line, upgrade on Blair
Moore - developing KPP, no point putting any goal targets on him but obviously has the potential in spades
White - serviceable to good, pinch hit in the ruck and showed at the back end of the season that he's a serious contributor
WHE - topline pick, huge upside

I honestly don't see how that's too bad of a forward setup.

Moore has great potential & will be a star but is still a baby in terms of being a KPP
White - was okay last year but not much chop previously. Decent defender will smash him.
Mayne - Can tackle but I'm not convinced we should chase him at all.
WHE - Hasn't done much in the AFL to date, but admittedly don't watch enough of him.
Elliott - Injury cloud still there. Very good when fit.


I'd like another good tall forward in that line up.

 

[unplugged]

Blair agreed to a contract extension a while back I thought.

Only Brown and Williams have question marks over their heads now.

Williams wouldn't qualify for any compensation but Brown might. If we hadn't of taken Wells of course, who cancels out any chance of compensation for us.

Oh, I just assumed he was potentially still on the way out.

I don't believe Williams is a free agent, is he?

I believe the ruling is that clubs with a "net loss" are compensated... so in theory if we lost both Blair (if he didn't actually sign an extension) and Brown to Free Agency, I think we'd be a chance for compensation, despite bringing in Wells.

Happy to be corrected on this, but Trade Radio's "rules of the NAB Trade Period" has a fair bit of emphasis on net loss.

 

[Jasper84]

Getting boring the trade period

Have you repressed the fateful trade period of 2008, where thousands died of trade atrophy? I still tell my grandkids of the week that I survived on nothing but scuttlebutt and innuendo only to return home and be spat on with the biggest trade of the week being Robbie f**king Warnock!

 

[mattys123]

Oh, I just assumed he was potentially still on the way out.

I don't believe Williams is a free agent, is he?

I believe the ruling is that clubs with a "net loss" are compensated... so in theory if we lost both Blair (if he didn't actually sign an extension) and Brown to Free Agency, I think we'd be a chance for compensation, despite bringing in Wells.

Happy to be corrected on this, but Trade Radio's "rules of the NAB Trade Period" has a fair bit of emphasis on net loss.

Yeah, I believe there is a net loss equation, but gaining Wells would be about equal to Brown I reckon.

As you've probably seen by some of my posts, I'm strictly against any compensation for clubs at all when it comes to free agents. The system is way too messy.

 

[Apex36]

With Blair being an RFA and therefore supposedly in our top 25% earners, does this alone effect what compensation we'd get for him?

Or does it solely depend on what his next club offers him, in the way of contract amount, length, etc.?

Surely if a club takes one of our "best 25%" players it would be grounds for some good compensation. Which would tell me that's been the club's planning going into this season, which would be smart.

Just on the provision that he was to go somewhere that is. There hasn't yet been any news on Blair AFAIK.

We're bringing in 2 free agents. We wouldn't get any compo.

 

[unplugged]

God help us, now we'll be talking about shopping Aish around for the next twenty pages.

 

[MagpieJoel]

Barrett comments on Trade Radio re Collingwood:

• Greenwood and Aish have been put out there, but no suggestion that they will be traded.

Not sure if we put them up or someone else did.

 

[unplugged]

We're bringing in 2 free agents. We wouldn't get any compo.

Oh, of course. Mayne. How could I forget Mayne?

 

[Aishole]

Im curious as to who it was they were offered too... we must be pursuing someone that hasn't been leaked yet?

 

[WalterBlaknWhte]

Barrett comments on Trade Radio re Collingwood:

• Greenwood and Aish have been put out there, but no suggestion that they will be traded. Not sure what that means.

other club supposedly said no

Think it might be Gold Coast

 

[TheSierBear]

Holy shit. I'm happy about Greenwood but Aish? It's probably more a case of these jounros making shit up.