List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Edition

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The Contracts Thread

Current contract status (Updated 26/6/24) : Total 45 Players - Main List (37) Rookie List (6) Cat B (2) Contracted to 2027 (3) : Tom Barrass (8/10/95) - Signed a 5 year extension (2023-27) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in December 2021 Reuben Ginbey (10/9/04) - Signed a 3 year...

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[Miguel Sanchez]

North probably take Wardlaw at 1, so WC take Sheezel at 2.

They literally picked Sheezel first.

 

[KERRPOW]

8 pretty easy delistings/retirements at the end of this year, based on ability or Simmo not giving games.

Name	Final Year	Years Service*
Alex Witherden	2024​	4​	Delist
Andrew Gaff	2024​	14​	Retire
Coby Burgiel	2024​	2​	Delist
Harry Edwards	2024​	6​	Keep
Jai Culley	2024​	3​	Keep
Jamaine Jones	2024​	5​	Delist
Jordyn Baker	2024​	2​	Delist
Josh Rotham	2024​	8​	Delist
Loch Rawlinson	2024​	1​	Re-rookie?
Luke Edwards	2024​	4​	Delist
Tyler Brockman	2024​	1​	Keep
Zane Trew	2024​	4​	Delist

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Go and take a look at what Bulldogs supporters think of him currently.

Many would be stoked to ship him out due to him being a liability in the ruck, as well as being soft as butter.

Doggies supporters mostly annoyed his form has fallen off a cliff as opposed to anything else .Williams is also a liability in the ruck though. English is just better overall

If English comes id certainly say we make the tough call and trade Williams out at the same time.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

8 pretty easy delistings/retirements at the end of this year, based on ability or Simmo not giving games.

Name	Final Year	Years Service*
Alex Witherden	2024​	4​	Delist
Andrew Gaff	2024​	14​	Retire
Coby Burgiel	2024​	2​	Delist
Harry Edwards	2024​	6​	Keep
Jai Culley	2024​	3​	Keep
Jamaine Jones	2024​	5​	Delist
Jordyn Baker	2024​	2​	Delist
Josh Rotham	2024​	8​	Delist
Loch Rawlinson	2024​	1​	Re-rookie?
Luke Edwards	2024​	4​	Delist
Tyler Brockman	2024​	1​	Keep
Zane Trew	2024​	4​	Delist

We aint delisting a guy whose played every game this year when fit in Alex Witherden. Silly to even suggest it

Rotham also aint going anywhere either given he is playing week in week out

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Rotham might finally sign that contract with Adelaide

 

[SetsSailForHome]

You may also think that Rotham and Jones are being played weekly to potentially raise, at least some awareness around the league, that they are useful/tradeable...

 

[KERRPOW]

We aint delisting a guy whose played every game this year when fit in Alex Witherden. Silly to even suggest it

Rotham also aint going anywhere either given he is playing week in week out

Rotham and witherdunce are cannon fodder.

If we had any half decent running defenders both would have been long gone.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Xavier O’Neill played 15 games last year, a career high, and still got moved on.

Nelson played 13 the year before and didn’t get a new deal.

 

[Cuzz09]

Yeah unfortunately I think Luke Edwards has had his shot

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[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Xavier O’Neill played 15 games last year, a career high, and still got moved on.

Nelson played 13 the year before and didn’t get a new deal.

Both played due to the shit ton of injuries as opposed to the spot Witho is in now where he is considered best 22.

 

[briztoon]

*kids like hollands have shown more accumulating loose ball on the outside, even if their stats are less and the role they play is considerably easier than competing head to head against seasoned AFL midfielders to win the ball on the inside as a 19 year old?

Let me know if I’m allowed to reply.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Both played due to the shit ton of injuries as opposed to the spot Witho is in now where he is considered best 22.

Who’s he competing with, though? Other than key backs our only defenders in the 2s are Baker and whichever of Johnston and Burgiel we’re trialling in the backline.

Edit: I think Witherden will be kept on, regardless.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Who’s he competing with, though? Other than key backs our only defenders in the 2s are Baker and whichever of Johnston and Burgiel we’re trialling in the backline.

No one. Thats why he wont be delisted...

You cant go from 1 to 0. You gotta go from 1 to 2

 

[Altum Volantes]

Flynn needs more then 2 games really.

If we gonna give up on Flynn thoiugh then Tim English is the answer

Isnt that why we dont like Flynn? Not good enough around the ground?

English is a better ruck then Willians. Lets not kid ourselves

We need a ruckman that can compete in the taps - ideally winning or at least breaking even across the game. They also need to be able to carry the lion’s share of ruck duties and stay on the park (i.e. not injury plagued). Being good around the ground is probably #4 on the list for mine.

Flynn is able to compete in the ruck.
Flynn is unable to carry a full ruck load (this may come with fitness but he’s not there yet.)
Flynn struggles to stay on the park.
Flynn is not really handy around the ground.

1/4 - he ain’t it, I’m calling it now.

Even Bailey Williams garners more ticks (can go all game, durable and handy around the ground) - but fails on the most important one.

Edit - and I’ll add on English..

Last time I checked, he hasn’t won a ruck contest (in terms of taps) all season.
He can go all day and is good around the ground.
He has major red flags over his long term future in the game with concussion issues lurking - giving him a long, expensive deal is not a good idea, for anyone.

 

[noobermensch]

The numbers don't jump off the page, but for me this was Trainor's best Champs performance to date. He was matched up on the dangerous Tyler Welsh, and kept him quiet for the first three quarters before conceding a couple of aerial contests late. We saw the kind of defender that he's likely to become at AFL level, someone that's capable of taking on those tricky forwards that push up high up the ground and into the midfield forcing matchup chaos like Jeremy Cameron

5

Jeremy Cameron

Age

31

Ht

196cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.5

3star

K

9.0

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

5.4

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

2.6

5star

D

10.0

3star

K

7.1

3star

HB

2.9

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

G

1.9

5star

D

8.2

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

4.6

5star

T

2.4

4star

G

2.0

5star

and Jake Stringer

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Jake Stringer

Age

30

Ht

192cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.9

3star

K

8.5

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

2.5

4star

G

1.8

5star

D

8.5

2star

K

7.0

3star

HB

1.5

1star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

4star

G

2.5

5star

D

7.2

2star

K

4.8

2star

HB

2.4

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

1.4

4star

G

1.4

5star

. Trainor has the running power and ground level ability to thrive higher up the ground while still being strong enough in the air to deal with deeper contests and 1v1s.

 

[KERRPOW]

Both played due to the shit ton of injuries as opposed to the spot Witho is in now where he is considered best 22.

Yep best 22 in a shit side.

 

[KERRPOW]

No one. Thats why he wont be delisted...

You cant go from 1 to 0. You gotta go from 1 to 2

Yep. I suppose delisting us more of a hope.

He shouldnt get more than a 1 year deal tho.

 

[bzparkes]

Yep best 22 in a shit side.

Which is exactly what we are

When we eventually head back up the ladder, players like him will be replaced.

those players aren't int he side yet though.

 

[Cornelius Roy]

Let me know if I’m allowed to reply.

I can understand why you’d ask but you don’t have to ask me that. I have no problem with you having an opinion on a discussion forum regardless of the team you support.

I’m well aware of Ginbeys deficiencies but I personally don’t believe you can take much at all from the two players you are comparing given the very different roles in very different teams and very young age.

Ginbeys got stuff to work on sure but his good games have been fine, his bad games have looked worse because there’s zero support around him so when he makes a mistake it’s generally resulting in the ball rubber banding into our defensive 50 for a shot on goal.

How do you think hollands would look in this west coast side?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Yep. I suppose delisting us more of a hope.

He shouldnt get more than a 1 year deal tho.

No one is trying to steal him away from us, lets be fair dinkum so 1 year deals should be the go for him from here.

 

[06Premiers]

Both Sheez and Wardlaw were clear in their intentions about not leaving Vic so this is a non discussion

As for targeting Perryman, there’s a strong rumour hawks have offered substantial money. If true he’ll be off the table. Definitely think Cumming is worth a shout. Has a great peg on him

Sex life, etc.

 

[amazingjoshy]

The draft capsule: How to solve recruiting's hindsight problem

Cal Twomey writes how a 'draft capsule' would solve recruiting's revisionism problem

www.afl.com.au

Not a bad idea by Twomey

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

The whole "lets pick up Cummings" in my mind is a bit of a false hope situation. Given he has many suitors and his age profile and injury issues, he aint picking us over Essendon and the like

 

[DRK_13]

Interesting article from Haselby (of all people) in SEN.

Pretty much said a new coaching staff will be able to make the tough calls that Simmo and the MC seem to be scared to make.
Pretty much an external review conducted internally - referenced Hawthorn being able to make the tough calls on - Tom Mitchell/Gunston/Shiels/Omeara which helped their rebuild - and the Eagles should look to do the same

Unfortunately, I tend to agree......

 

[mattyc75]

Rotham and witherdunce are cannon fodder.

If we had any half decent running defenders both would have been long gone.

We dont

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