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Witho is only best 22 due to lack of anyone else pushing for selection.
It’s easy to say let’s make the tough calls, harder to explain what they might be. The Hawks had a few older players with trade value, were able to get something out of them. Not sure we have the same value players.
Bit too early to call Hawthorn's list management strategy a success, I reckon. I know we just got annihilated by their midfield, but they don't nearly have the class on their list to go all the way.
Hawks are also in the honeymoon period with chol .
Waterman would likely attract band 1 FA compo next year if he maintains his form so I wouldn’t trade him this year. A different trade I’d look at with Freo is swapping Liam Ryan and 200k of salary for Neil Erasmus and Liam Reidy.
This is what I would be selecting from now on.
I agree with what you’re saying but other than Tom Mitchell (who was no longer the same player at the time) the players at Hawthorn who had “tough calls” made on them were hardly superstars.
Absolutely no one didnt know this already.
Oh we all know that but its not really the point. He is in our best 22 and therefore wont be sacked in 8 weeks time
Wouldn't freo just rather get kako with one of their firsts?
Depends on Laura’s matching bids dart board as he’s Essendon NGA. I’ve got Kako at 16 and Berry at 27 as the two best small forwards. If it ends up roughly that then Freo’s picks may not be high enough and I suspect they have bigger plans for those picks given their likely pursuit of McDonald this year and The Chad next year.
Reids the play
I think it’s because he’s constantly 2nd to the ball, always seems to behind his opponent, mostly chasing.
Im just annoyed he isnt in AA contention myself. After all Simmo promised us all he would be
Cheers.
I agree 100%. But that sort of got lost, with other posters focusing on one player out of ten I mentioned, and them not answering the op’s question, and despite me saying I recognise they are playing different roles.
Let’s wind it back a sec.
Yeah but he has a higher ceiling and provided he gets his foot right will be the better player.
Apologies, I responded to a single post without consideration to the prior history of the post.Cheers.
I agree 100%. But that sort of got lost, with other posters focusing on one player out of ten I mentioned, and them not answering the op’s question, and despite me saying I recognise they are playing different roles.
Let’s wind it back a sec.
The op asked to name 8 players from Ginbey’s draft that had performed better than him.
This was in response to the Ginbey pile on in the match day thread, that then started to spill on here.
Nothing to do with anything I had said, because I hadn’t said anything to that point, it was all WC fans here piling on Ginbey.
I quoted the OP and said there were 10 players I believed who had performed better.
For some reason, everyone focused on Oliver Hollands. Ok, I have no problem if people disagree with a subjective opinion.
I tried multiple times to point out that many of these players play different roles, and to focus on the OP’s parameter of “performance”.
Yes it’s easier to play almost any other position on the field than the one Ginbey is playing. That wasn’t qualified by the OP.
Nor have I said Hollands is a better player, despite other posters trying to make that the discussion.
Now my opinion on Ginbey is the same as quite a few other WC posters here, including one poster who was employed in a talent identification role by AFL clubs. Yet posters here, such as Elite Pete and Obeanie1 reckon I’m trolling, without engaging the WC posters saying pretty much the same as me.
Now back to answer your question. Hollands would struggle as well. We’re seeing that even Reid struggles at times. That’s a function of where WC are at the moment, and little to do with the players themselves.
Do I believe Hollands, or any other of 10 players I specified are better players than Ginbey? Yes. Could all those players play in the same position as Ginbey? No, because some are key forwards or key defenders or wingers, etc.
That doesn’t automatically imply that inside mids, regardless of ability are better than players in other positions.
It’s an opinion. Happy for other posters to disagree with me. We probably won’t know for another 3 to 5 years.
Theyre only getting games because we have 0 depth down back. Getting in Baker, drafting a half back, and getting Bazzo back fit means Rotham and Witho wouldnt get a game next year anyway
Baker ain’t playing back pocket and Bazzo ain’t playing 3rd tall.
