List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Wouldn't be surprised if this happens.

3 for 6 (Graham compo) 42 baker.

Draft
6 14 23 42 63


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[new breed]

Barrass deal not far of being settled ?

 

[N3ssy]

Wouldn't be surprised if this happens.

3 for 6 (Graham compo) 42 baker.

Draft
6 14 23 42 63


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Think you'd be lucky to trade 3 for 6 + baker let alone another pick in there

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Think you'd be lucky to trade 3 for 6 + baker let alone another pick in there

If the tigers really want 3 and we want baker then this is actually a balanced trade.

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[HoneyBadger35]

What a load of crap!!!!! Seriously whoever was finagling this deal is a complete and utter moron and should be fired and replaced before he bungles the Bolton, Rioli and Baker deals. Pick 42 will blow out to 52 and be borderline useless.

There’ll be no list managers left at this rate.

And come to think of it, why are we the only team that concedes late goals?

 

[Spooky17]

I’d love to tell the Tigers supporters to suck a big one over the graham compo, but I know there’s a strong chance we overpay for Baker in the near future. What a rollercoaster few days.

 

[Obeanie1]

So we either had no interest in bumping up Graham's salary (effectively pick purchasing) to give Richmond a better pick which we could use in the Baker deal OR we lack this creativity.

Or we are saving our cap space to use on gun players.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

So we either had no interest in bumping up Graham's salary (effectively pick purchasing) to give Richmond a better pick which we could use in the Baker deal OR we lack this creativity.

Or we wanted to avoid four years of melts about role players using us as a retirement home and lining their bank balance on huge contracts.

No win scenario, the old trade and draft period.

 

[Obeanie1]

Would love him but it means we got no chance with Warner. We need the prurples to spend big on Bolton so we can make a play for Warner.

That is not correct.

We could land Bolton and Warner next year.

It would just mean we wouldn't taking any 1st round picks to the draft for three drafts during a rebuild.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

That is not correct.

We could land Bolton and Warner next year.

It would just mean we wouldn't taking any 1st round picks to the draft for three drafts during a rebuild.

Bolton will be at Freo this year mate. Certainty I think

 

[Hillsy13]

In last year's Futures game, Xavier Lindsay showed us a glimpse of what he might be capable of as a rebounding defender. Tough in contested situations and elite with his disposal off half back, taking on creative and difficult options and executing with ease. One of the best performed players on the day.

Geez he’s a good kick, would much rather use 14 on him than a butcher like baker. Our team could really use an elite kick out of defence/on the wing


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[woosha24]

If the tigers really want 3 and we want baker then this is actually a balanced trade.

On Pixel 6 Pro using BigFooty.com mobile app

But IMHO now that we've landed Graham we shouldnt want Baker.

We've got our 26 y.o Tigers mid. With Kelly and Yeo rotating through the middle we shouldnt need another unless they're absolute top shelf.

 

[Barrybran]

Wouldn't be surprised if this happens.

3 for 6 (Graham compo) 42 baker.

Draft
6 14 23 42 63


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Not horrible but terribly uncreative

 

[eaglevision]

I know I'm coming off belligerent when it comes to him, and I dont mean to since we clearly agree on the prospects much more than we disagree, but in what world is Travaglia's disposal so great, or better than (eg) Duggan's? I like him as a high urgency, metres gained player but he's hardly a surgeon by hand or foot. Lindsay yes.

Not belligerent, just a different opinion.

Firstly, Travaglia is an excellent decision maker. He is a penetrating kick but I wouldn’t call accuracy elite so on that specific point I see where you’re coming from. However he makes up for this by usually kicking within himself (which is part of decision making) so ends up nailing his short kicks. From my viewing in person and from footage when he kicks long he tends to kick into space to advantage which will also be important if McQualter is going with the game plan he’s suggesting.

Regarding his handballing I would absolutely describe it as surgical and among the best in the draft. It’s an ungainly action but it’s VERY effective. Numerous times with the ground ball in dispute he gets first hands to the ball and fires off a handball to the best option. When he’s got time and space his handballing is also very accurate and almost always to the best option.

His defensive work, reading the play and therefore intercept marking is also a highlight. He’s still to grow into his frame but if we drafted him he would walk into our back 6 round 1 IMO and could also push to a wing. I wouldn’t split pick 3 unless Travaglia is part of the plan.

 

[woosha24]

His defensive work, reading the play and therefore intercept marking is also a highlight. He’s still to grow into his frame but if we drafted him he would walk into our back 6 round 1 IMO and could also push to a wing. I wouldn’t split pick 3 unless Travaglia is part of the plan.

My question though is: do you want to be using Pick 3 on a winger, when we need quality pure-blooded mids?

 

[Jupes]

now just call off the baker deal for a year and take him as a UFA next year so the tiges can get 40 something for him

 

[eaglevision]

Just curious, obviously Lindsay very good with ball in hand, but what's his running ability like? Had he been able to compete at the combine where would he sit?

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Good tank, no issues there whatsoever. Part of the reason he was able to consistently get so many possessions at CTL level throughout the year by getting to contests and to good areas to receive the ball.

 

[Obeanie1]

Bolton will be at Freo this year mate. Certainty I think

Oh I agree.

However we do hold the draft capital to land both Bolton this year and Warner next year.

Chances are both go to Freo TBH.

 

[stallon]

My question though is: do you want to be using Pick 3 on a winger, when we need quality pure-blooded mids?

We also need outside players, arguably more than we need another mid

 

[WCE_Phill]

Oh I agree.

However we do hold the draft capital to land both Bolton this year and Warner next year.

Chances are both go to Freo TBH.

How? If they use 10 and 18 on Bolton

Leaves them with 11 and thier F1

We have our F1 and Hawks F1 plus a shit load of cap space.

 

[Obeanie1]

My question though is: do you want to be using Pick 3 on a winger, when we need quality pure-blooded mids?

Would you use pick 3 on Peter Matera?

 

[Obeanie1]

How? If they use 10 and 18 on Bolton

Leaves them with 11 and thier F1

We have our F1 and Hawks F1 plus a shit load of cap space.

Bolton moves in 2024.

Warner in 2025.

Both Freo and the Eagles have the picks to trade in both.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Not always as black and white as you imply. You over pay a player, it can create waves in the playing group in the long run.

Tigers getting band 4 is only good news.

Agree

Also Graham and Baker are isolated trades. While manipulating the Graham compo rules so Richmond do a good deal with us for Baker is theoretically possible, it's not risk free.

What's stopping Richmond from happily accepting band 1/2 compo for Graham and then telling us they still want 14 for Baker? Nothing.

We'd then be left with the bag - an overpaid player affecting our salary cap for 4 years + coughing up a high pick for Baker.

 

[woosha24]

Would you use pick 3 on Peter Matera?

The West Coast team of 1989/1990 were in a different place than the West Coast team of 2024/2025.

Does Matera thrive in a side missing the likes of Mainwaring, Lewis, Kemp, etc? Hard to say.

 

[eaglevision]

My question though is: do you want to be using Pick 3 on a winger, when we need quality pure-blooded mids?

It’s a good point, although I wouldn’t pigeonhole Travaglia or Lindsay as just HBF/wingers. Lindsay has shown all year he’s got a great clearance game and is a fantastic first receiver. Tobie definitely has potential to play in the midfield and is a lot stronger in the contest than most probably think.

Obviously the answer to that depends on the shape of the draft and how the club views Warner next year. Using a trade with Richmond as an example (3,14 for 6,10,Baker) I’d be very happy with Travaglia, Lindsay and Hynes and ok with Travaglia, Allan and Hynes.

A medium term midfield group including stints from those three, Harley, Hewett*, Hall, Johnson and hopefully Ginbey and Chesser and I wouldn’t call our midfield depth poor anymore. Kelly, Graham, Yeo, Baker to hold the fort until then and add Warner or a top mid next year and I’d almost say our midfield is looking strong going forward.