List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Dogs can send us 17 and F1 for Barrass, 17 for Baker, cheers.

Currently frittering away Bont’s career with Rory Lobb

7

Rory Lobb

Age

31

Ht

207cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.0

3star

K

6.7

3star

HB

4.4

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

2.4

4star

G

0.9

4star

D

11.3

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

3.3

2star

M

4.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.0

4star

D

7.0

2star

K

4.0

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.6

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.6

3star

as their best defender, just get it done boys.

 

[amazingjoshy]

I get where you're coming from but, despite his bias, I do believe Ralph to not be the type to just make shit up. Twist it, 100%, but not flat out lie.

How does that conversation go?

WC:
"We will get a pick between 15 and 20 and trade it for you. That's it. No futures, no multiple picks, no pick slides, just a pick specifically between 15 and 20."

Baker:
"OK. But I'll only come for a pick specifically between 15 and 20 because I love Richmond so much"

 

[stallon]

Isn’t it just as likely to be Carlton’s F1 and Hawthorns F2 for Barrass?

No, carltons f1+carltons f2 is worth the same as pick 14.

We couldve just accepted 14 and swapped 14 for those 2 picks with Carlton on our own if thats what we wanted

Carlton’s F1 for Baker - Richmond would take our hand off for that given Carlton’s bed shitting ability.

Yes, that might be in the ballpark, id ask for a f3 back though

 

[ziad]

They gave massive overs for pick 20, probably on assumption they'll end up with a bunch of firsts after the various trades and wouldn't use the later picks.

Will be funny if no deals get done and they just threw away a bunch of nice later picks.

My type of funny

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Nope, they cooking up a second way to spin a man’s hat here. Still going after TB and I like that we sent them off to create something that works for us. Backing Clarke in here

Trade chat aside, is this a phrase? Have I just never encountered this, the greatest combinations of words in the English language, before?

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Isn’t it just as likely to be Carlton’s F1 and Hawthorns F2 for Barrass?

Carlton’s F1 for Baker - Richmond would take our hand off for that given Carlton’s bed shitting ability.

No thanks.

Next year's draft is seriously compromised and those F1 could be pick 25+

 

[DanWCE]

Trade Radio reported that we were going to use Pick 14 to get a Pick between 15-20 for Baker so Richmond weren’t happy in the first place.

Fvxk the Tigers, don't care if they are happy. He's OOC and signed off at the B&F with a rousing 20 word speech that is best summarized as "caaaaaatch!"

Tigers will not risk their culture trying to pick Baker up in the PSD against his will. Just won't happen. If Freo were before us, yes, absolutely that could happen. But it would be so counter productive to try and pin him at the club they are better off taking something fair, or below fair, like we did with Ebert and Rioli.

We're in a rare position where we don't have to overpay for Baker, and should be overpaid for TB. It could give our rebuild a real Bombers jab in the arm if we get it right.

 

[Barrybran]

How does that conversation go?

WC:
"We will get a pick between 15 and 20 and trade it for you. That's it. No futures, no multiple picks, no pick slides, just a pick specifically between 15 and 20."

Baker:
"OK. But I'll only come for a pick specifically between 15 and 20 because I love Richmond so much"

I don't doubt you for a second. I don't see why a list manager would tell a player what we're going to chase for their old club. It just doesn't seem true. But it would also be terrible journalism.

 

[Peptide Pig]

Yeah which is why they are more likely to go all out to contend by picking up a key piece like TB. We have less urgency to deal him, he’s contracted. Let’s see what they come up with before we wet the bed again. These sheets just got changed, chill

Rookie mistake. I swapped to adult nappies and plastic sheets days ago.

Hawks may be wheeling and dealing to land us the equivalent of 14 + F1 while getting them some extras back which wouldn’t have happened if dealing with us alone.

Or dream scenario, it’s fallen through with the Hawks. Swans have re-emerged and TB is keen. Meanwhile Chad decides on a move to the Eagles. Swans address their shaky defense and we add one of the best young mids in the comp. TB plus F1 for Chad

 

[random260]

Come on down Cody Curtin (Carlton F1)

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Trade chat aside, is this a phrase? Have I just never encountered this, the greatest combinations of words in the English language, before?

Ha it’s not a thing, but it definitely should be is your answer

 

[Hook461123]

You'd think Hawks wouldn't have done it unless we had given them an indication we'd take 2x F1's for Tom. We've said all along we wanted 2 x firsts for him.
It means Hawks get Carlons F2 as a bonus out of the deal.

 

[FKASC]

geez what did I miss

 

[Altum Volantes]

No thanks.

Next year's draft is seriously compromised and those F1 could be pick 25+

They are all compromised mate.

We won’t be using the pick, it gets traded to Richmond.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Seriously what are the melts about exactly

We told Hawks 14 wasn't enough and now they're out searching for more picks?

It's Friday and it's 30 degrees out, the pints aren't that far off gentlemen, just settle down

Look at his guy boasting how he can afford pints in this economy...


*i'm working on assumption pints are still super expensive in Perth as I live in Sydney

 

[TY24]

geez what did I miss

We sent a years worth of wet bedsheets to Waverly Park

 

[ZergMinion]

geez what did I miss

It was like the last two days but in reverse and much faster.

 

[TazHawk15]

You'd think Hawks wouldn't have done it unless we had given them an indication we'd take 2x F1's for Tom. We've said all along we wanted 2 x firsts for him.
It means Hawks get Carlons F2 as a bonus out of the deal.

Bingo.

 

[maverick001]

Poor poor Baker wanted to help tuggas one last time.



You will come to us for pick 23.

Listen here you either **** over tuggas or you can gtfo from wce

Can’t see (or care) why Baker would be furious
We’re acting in good faith if we are attempting to secure a 15-20 pick for him. Doesn’t mean we have to fold to take hawks pick 14

 

[random260]

You'd think Hawks wouldn't have done it unless we had given them an indication we'd take 2x F1's for Tom. We've said all along we wanted 2 x firsts for him.
It means Hawks get Carlons F2 as a bonus out of the deal.

Omg

3x F1 next year.

Oh my God. **** Baker off.

Ride with Fred Rodrigez, Cody Curtin and Pick 1-3

 

[Yeahnahmate]

Sheets drying, hats spinning, Clarke on

It’s all happening, but also nothing is actually really happening mate.

But it might be about to, and therein lies the fun

 

[ep2018]

Barrass for Hawks future first and Carlton's future second rounder? Then give Richmond the hawks F1 for Baker?

Not good enough according to those on this board but if the club genuinely wants a first and second for him, it works.

 

[FKASC]

Man Jon Ralph is such a ****ing cancer

 

[amazingjoshy]

it would also be terrible journalism.

 

[stallon]

Barrass for Hawks future first and Carlton's future second rounder? Then give Richmond the hawks F1 for Baker?

Not good enough according to those on this board but if the club genuinely wants a first and second for him, it works.

No.

They just traded 14 for Carltons f1 and f2, why tf would we take roughly the same as pick 14 value when we originally wanted 14+f2?