List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[stallon]

I suspect things might just pan out as we expected (or feared), just with Carlton F1 in place of 14.

I doubt it, we arent going to accept a worse deal now

 

[Cuzz09]

Hope TB just says "ferkit!!" and stays and helps build our backline.

Gov would be a happy chappy

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[THE A5]

I suspect things might just pan out as we expected (or feared), just with Carlton F1 in place of 14.

Thats a worse deal as Carlton would be favourites to be up there in finals next season

 

[Mattman93]

I doubt it, we arent going to accept a worse deal now

Seems roughly the same to me (opinions about the strength of the relative drafts aside).

And the point is it goes onto Richmond anyway.

 

[new breed]

Barrass gotta realise he is contracted as we need a player like Barrass , ....backline lacks depth be-sides McGovern .

 

[wirra44]

Hawks fan slowly realising on there board that there still gonna have to at least give up a future 1st and future 2nd for barrass minimum. I think a lot of them were so excited they thought by trading pick 14 they were going to get him for pick 71 or something.

 

[stallon]

Seems roughly the same to me (opinions about the strength of the relative drafts aside).

And the point is it goes onto Richmond anyway.

Current picks always > future picks.

Turning Barrass into Baker + f2 would be a disaster

 

[wirra44]

Ideal scenario here is probably that Freo pays us back for not bidding up players who've gone to them when we had the chance (Jackson most recently) and leaves Richmond with zero option to take whatever we scrape together for Baker. Not a disaster if we miss out but if we can get him for a much better price than we were expecting and accumulate some future picks for Warner then this whole trade period could suddenly look quite nice.

Also for as much as Baker apparently wanted fair compo surely the coach and Graham already being here changes the maths somewhat. A late first or an early second are really not that far apart.

Clarke and McQualter also basically ruling out going for Bolton too

 

[stallon]

Hawks fan slowly realising on there board that there still gonna have to at least give up a future 1st and future 2nd for barrass minimum. I think a lot of them were so excited they thought by trading pick 14 they were going to get him for pick 71 or something.

Considering they got a f1 and f2 for pick 14, theyll be happy if thats what it ends up being.

Its not enough

 

[Spooky17]

Clarke walks in to Hawks negotiations.



Pick 14 isn’t enough bois

 

[ronpingwins]

Current picks always > future picks.

Turning Barrass into Baker + f2 would be a disaster

Which was happening anyway really regardless of the Hawks trading out 14. Get the feeling Freo have moved on from Baker and Carltons F1 will be Richmonds only option.

 

[stallon]

Which was happening anyway really regardless of the Hawks trading out 14. Get the feeling Freo have moved on from Baker and Carltons F1 will be Richmonds only option.

How do we know that was the aim? Clarke has already shown us hes not the pushover some of us thought he might be

 

[ronpingwins]

Trading down becoming less of an option. Richmond less inclined to now they haven't got 14 and gave a little extra to get 20.

 

[squashface]

Might drink some pints and tweet some hate at Tom Morris tonight

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

It doesn't have anything to do with his worth, only that Baker wants fair compo for a club that did alright for him which I'm ok with. What that fair compo amounts to is another question though.

Does the value have to do by how highly he rates himself then?
There are only 2 WA teams, so the fact he nominated the team with less draft capital restricts the compensation that he can yield for his beloved Tigers. So it's on him, it's not up to us to manufacture a draft pick that he thinks he is worth.

Judd is a different story, there were no mixed opinions of what he was worth.
He doesn't even have to rate himself to know that any team gaining him needs to pay a high price, and that him leaving would have a big impact on his former club.
Can't say the same thing about Baker...

 

[THE A5]

Might drink some pints and tweet some hate at Tom Morris tonight

Leak a few of his group chats

 

[Elite Pete]

I think the deal will be
Hawks F1 + Blues F1
For
TB and F2.

Issue is which one do we keep out of Hawks or Blues? Who is likely to finish lower?

 

[JackOutback]

do our sheets get a breather over the weekend or are we going full bedwetting mode all the way through?

 

[eaglespremiers]

Hawks fan slowly realising on there board that there still gonna have to at least give up a future 1st and future 2nd for barrass minimum. I think a lot of them were so excited they thought by trading pick 14 they were going to get him for pick 71 or something.

One of them suggested that they trade Hawthorn's F1st and Carlton's F1st for Barrass and our pick 26 (currently), which would be absolutely ridiculous as it would mean that this season we'd be left with pick 3 and then pick 63 as our 2nd pick which is exactly the opposite of what Clarke indicated he wanted to achieve.
Future picks are worth less. It should now be Hawthorn's F1st and Carlton's F1st for Barrass.

 

[TerryFilk]

I think the deal will be
Hawks F1 + Blues F1
For
TB and F2.

Issue is which one do we keep out of Hawks or Blues? Who is likely to finish lower?

That’s gross

Don’t even get an extra pick in this super draft and give our F2…

That could end up being 14 and 17 for TB and 22

Also, we don’t want to be armed with several firsts for Warner, Sydney will ask for them all

 

[Lyyynnnchy]

Imagine if we keep pick 3, 14 & 26 and Barrass and walk Baler to the PSD.

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Where are we getting 14 from?

 

[tigger_ferret]

Does the Pope shit in the woods

Is a bear Catholic?

 

[Mr Meeseeks]

A lot of you guys need to chill.

This trade between Carlton and Hawthorn is good for everyone.

Eagles want a 1st and 2nd and hawks don't want to pay that. They want to keep a 2nd next year.

Mackenzie has cleverly unlocked an extra 2nd so now we can satisfy Clark with a 1st and 2nd while keeping a 2nd next year

The only difference is that the Eagles get a F1 instead of 14. But that strengthens the possibility of getting Warner next year anyway.

Everyone wins here.

 

[stallon]

That’s gross

Don’t even get an extra pick in this super draft and give our F2…

That could end up being 14 and 17 for TB and 22

Also, we don’t want to be armed with several firsts for Warner, Sydney will ask for them all

Correct, I dont even want to hold our normal f1 because of this.

IF we were to get those 2 f1s from the hawks, then trade our f1 into this year, I could live with that.
F1 for 6 or 9+something.

Then the Swans can only ask for the hawks and blues first rounders next year if Warner wants to come to the Eagles

 

[stallon]

A lot of you guys need to chill.

This trade between Carlton and Hawthorn is good for everyone.

Eagles want a 1st and 2nd and hawks don't want to pay that. They want to keep a 2nd next year.

Mackenzie has cleverly unlocked an extra 2nd so now we can satisfy Clark with a 1st and 2nd while keeping a 2nd next year

The only difference is that the Eagles get a F1 instead of 14. But that strengthens the possibility of getting Warner next year anyway.

Everyone wins here.

Eagles dont win here. 14 is worth more than either of your future picks.

If we get both your f1s I could live with it.
Youve still generated an extra 2nd rounder so surely youre good with it anyway