List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted


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  • List Manager Matt Clarke appeared on Sept 11 Gettable - Click spoiler below for summary
    On the draft: "We predicted that the draft was strong, but it's probably gotten stronger during the year."

    On top end of draft: "You could probably make five or six different choices and get it right."

    On Pick 3: "I reckon there's five (players) around that mark."

    On splitting: "I think you want to hold an early selection if you can. The depth of this group allows you to maybe have some movement there, and see what you can do to bring in more talent in the first 20-25 picks. Easier said than done, and I think most clubs would be saying the same thing. We'll see what we can do."

    On Liam Baker: "He's still yet to make a decision. They're still weighing up a few things. We'd love to get Liam on board from what he offers from a talent and leadership point of view. We understand where we're at as a group, we're rebuilding our group, we need to add some guys in the middle tier to support our young group."

    On Jack Graham: "We've got a number of players that we're speaking to. A bit of a wait and see on that one as well. We'll talk to a number of guys."

    On Shai Bolton: "I think it will be difficult for anybody, really. He's heavily contracted and a high quality player."

    On James Peatling: "He's heavily involved in a finals series at the moment so I don't want to comment too much on it, but I think there's a number of guys that have been playing really good footy this year that could suit what we do and what other clubs do. He's taken his footy to another level this year."

    On Tom Barrass: "We've had an early discussion with Hawthorn about it, they understand where we're at. He's nominated Hawthorn as his ideal destination. We want what we think he's worth, as a genuine key back in the competition that can do what he can do. We're obviously mindful of getting an appropriate deal for West Coast."

    On Tom Clurey: "Maybe (note: sounded very non enthused). We'd probably need some key back depth, whether that's through the draft or trade and free agency."

    On Jack Darling: "We've had initial discussions with his management group about (moving). We're open to talking, as we are with all of our players, but Jack's contracted with us."

    On Liam Ryan: "I expect him to be at West Coast next year, yes." (The most definitive answer of the day by a mile, a non-starter of a talking point.)

    On out of contact players e.g. Rotham, Witherden, Jones: "We're still working through what it looks like from a list point of view, and how many selections we'll want to have, and players that may come in and potentially may go out. You might want to give a coach an opportunity to look at these guys."

    On Harley Reid: "We've had discussions most of the year with his management group. I think it sits in a really good place. We're open to doing really whatever they want to do to be honest. We're really confident in building the right system around Harley, on and off field, to make sure that he's really comfortable, that he's going to play his best footy, and his long term future."

    On Jake Waterman's new deal: "Yep, really close. We're working really closely with his management on that. I expect that we'll have something done pretty soon."

    On Oscar Allen: "We've been talking with Oscar and his manager most of the year on that one. We're going through some stuff at the moment. I think we'll be ok with that one."



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Ideal scenario here is probably that Freo pays us back for not bidding up players who've gone to them when we had the chance (Jackson most recently) and leaves Richmond with zero option to take whatever we scrape together for Baker. Not a disaster if we miss out but if we can get him for a much better price than we were expecting and accumulate some future picks for Warner then this whole trade period could suddenly look quite nice.

Also for as much as Baker apparently wanted fair compo surely the coach and Graham already being here changes the maths somewhat. A late first or an early second are really not that far apart.

Clarke and McQualter also basically ruling out going for Bolton too
 
Hawks fan slowly realising on there board that there still gonna have to at least give up a future 1st and future 2nd for barrass minimum. I think a lot of them were so excited they thought by trading pick 14 they were going to get him for pick 71 or something. 😂
Considering they got a f1 and f2 for pick 14, theyll be happy if thats what it ends up being.

Its not enough
 

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It doesn't have anything to do with his worth, only that Baker wants fair compo for a club that did alright for him which I'm ok with. What that fair compo amounts to is another question though.
Does the value have to do by how highly he rates himself then?
There are only 2 WA teams, so the fact he nominated the team with less draft capital restricts the compensation that he can yield for his beloved Tigers. So it's on him, it's not up to us to manufacture a draft pick that he thinks he is worth.

Judd is a different story, there were no mixed opinions of what he was worth.
He doesn't even have to rate himself to know that any team gaining him needs to pay a high price, and that him leaving would have a big impact on his former club.
Can't say the same thing about Baker...
 
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Hawks fan slowly realising on there board that there still gonna have to at least give up a future 1st and future 2nd for barrass minimum. I think a lot of them were so excited they thought by trading pick 14 they were going to get him for pick 71 or something. 😂
One of them suggested that they trade Hawthorn's F1st and Carlton's F1st for Barrass and our pick 26 (currently), which would be absolutely ridiculous as it would mean that this season we'd be left with pick 3 and then pick 63 as our 2nd pick which is exactly the opposite of what Clarke indicated he wanted to achieve.
Future picks are worth less. It should now be Hawthorn's F1st and Carlton's F1st for Barrass.
 
I think the deal will be
Hawks F1 + Blues F1
For
TB and F2.

Issue is which one do we keep out of Hawks or Blues? Who is likely to finish lower?

That’s gross

Don’t even get an extra pick in this super draft and give our F2…

That could end up being 14 and 17 for TB and 22

Also, we don’t want to be armed with several firsts for Warner, Sydney will ask for them all
 
A lot of you guys need to chill.

This trade between Carlton and Hawthorn is good for everyone.

Eagles want a 1st and 2nd and hawks don't want to pay that. They want to keep a 2nd next year.

Mackenzie has cleverly unlocked an extra 2nd so now we can satisfy Clark with a 1st and 2nd while keeping a 2nd next year

The only difference is that the Eagles get a F1 instead of 14. But that strengthens the possibility of getting Warner next year anyway.

Everyone wins here.
 
That’s gross

Don’t even get an extra pick in this super draft and give our F2…

That could end up being 14 and 17 for TB and 22

Also, we don’t want to be armed with several firsts for Warner, Sydney will ask for them all
Correct, I dont even want to hold our normal f1 because of this.

IF we were to get those 2 f1s from the hawks, then trade our f1 into this year, I could live with that.
F1 for 6 or 9+something.

Then the Swans can only ask for the hawks and blues first rounders next year if Warner wants to come to the Eagles
 
A lot of you guys need to chill.

This trade between Carlton and Hawthorn is good for everyone.

Eagles want a 1st and 2nd and hawks don't want to pay that. They want to keep a 2nd next year.

Mackenzie has cleverly unlocked an extra 2nd so now we can satisfy Clark with a 1st and 2nd while keeping a 2nd next year

The only difference is that the Eagles get a F1 instead of 14. But that strengthens the possibility of getting Warner next year anyway.

Everyone wins here.
Eagles dont win here. 14 is worth more than either of your future picks.

If we get both your f1s I could live with it.
Youve still generated an extra 2nd rounder so surely youre good with it anyway
 

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