List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[bzparkes]

Thought the Matt Kennedy fans would be up and about if there's a chance of some steak knives when trading out 3

He won't move from Vic.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Will say one thing then **** off.

Think we can all agree the shit Eagles/Dockers have to go through with VIC media every trade week is a disgrace. Getting two picks in the teens for 3 in this draft is the most biased trade scenario I’ve seen in a while. Reckon Richmond will cave for a f2 for Baker eventually.

This is why West Coast and Freo should work together in respecting each others trades when a player nominates one team.

 

[Altum Volantes]

Wasn't there a rumour that Fremantle had offered 10 for Baker already (which is why Richmond wanted 14 off us).
And how do you know that they aren't trying to convince him to go to Freo?

You really think they are offering 10 for Baker?…

100% confident they don’t have the 3 first rounders on the table for Bolton and Baker.

Shame - might save us from turning the majority of TB’s value into a midget half back.

Oh well.

 

[stallon]

Nah, gotta disagree on that one Beets.

Kennedy is a B grade state level midfielder.

I get everyone is off Baker at the moment, given what he'd cost, but I'd take the midget ahead of Kennedy by the length of the Flemington.

Baker is quality. Kennedy is bleh. Graham plays the similar role and style to Kennedy, and we've just picked him up for nada.

Kennedy can be the guy in the middle getting 25+ each week and going to every CBA. He is a solid inside mid, big body, ideal to protect the younger guys and allowing Yeo to not have to do so much

Kennedy fills a need, Baker is a worse mid than Kennedy, at least for our midfield where it sits right now

 

[eaglevision]

Mate Carlton aren’t willing to part with one of those for houston what makes you think we get both for an older TB?
Also
The hawks offer has now reduced in value, no way that’s the deal.

Because Barrass is more worth more to them than Houston. Not sure what you mean about the Hawks offer.

 

[Juice030103]

I mean I don’t rate him to be clear but wouldn’t shock me if we threw up someone like Mitch McGovern

11

Mitch Mcgovern

Age

30

Ht

190cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

2.9

3star

M

4.6

4star

T

2.2

4star

MG

189.8

3star

D

7.6

2star

K

6.5

3star

HB

1.1

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.9

3star

MG

179.6

3star

D

10.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

3.0

5star

MG

218.0

4star

so that he can pair up with his bro to end his days

 

[Godfather32]

I mean I don’t rate him to be clear but wouldn’t shock me if we threw up someone like Mitch McGovern so that he can pair up with his bro to end his days

I'd rather give you a pick to keep him

 

[stallon]

So the hawks offer was just 14...

Theyre clowns to think that wouldve got over the line

 

[amazingjoshy]

I agree 12 and 14 isn’t enough so I’d assume we’d be throwing in something else. Maybe a 3 way trade of some sort

Even the Carlton fan can see how batshit this is

Refuse to believe we've considered it anything beyond taking a polite meeting to say no thanks.

Or someone's getting their wires crossed and they're actually dipping their toe in for Barrass

 

[eaglespremiers]

Nah, gotta disagree on that one Beets.

Kennedy is a B grade state level midfielder.

I get everyone is off Baker at the moment, given what he'd cost, but I'd take the midget ahead of Kennedy by the length of the Flemington.

Baker is quality. Kennedy is bleh. Graham plays the similar role and style to Kennedy, and we've just picked him up for nada.

We'll have to agree to disagree here. Kennedy is far better at the bash and crash around contests than Baker and a very good mark whilst resting forward as well.
I don't dislike Baker but I think Kennedy would be the better selection for us.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

You really think they are offering 10 for Baker?…

100% confident they don’t have the 3 first rounders on the table for Bolton and Baker.

Shame - might save us from turning the majority of TB’s value into a midget half back.

Oh well.

10 or 11 is not too different from the hypothetical pick 14 we were supposedly prepared to offer them, especially if they find another pick to send back.

 

[amazingjoshy]

So the hawks offer was just 14...

Theyre clowns to think that wouldve got over the line

Jon Ralph caveat

But if so rather just hold him.

 

[eaglespremiers]

We can’t trade the Brisbane future second we got for afl rules so I assume it would be 12 14 and maybe something like Moir Motlop owies or something any of the guys who are from Perth or linked to a move

Again, you're a teens pick short of getting it into a suitable trade range.
Baker is just not worth the hassle of missing out on a top 10 pick without being overcompensated massively.

 

[rebel23]

Perhaps 12 and 14 for 3 more palatable...

If it's a package deal to also include sheed and rotham going the other way...
Kapeesh

 

[Elite Pete]

So the hawks offer was just 14...

Theyre clowns to think that wouldve got over the line

So they are offering both picks they got for the 14 they offered us but we have to throw in a pick….. so they have decreased their offer.

It’s a bold strategy

 

[random260]

Perhaps 12 and 14 for 3 more palatable...

If it's a package deal to also include sheed and rotham going the other way...
Kapeesh

You do know pick 14 or 12 is going to be gobbled up with Baker?

So it's pick 12 + Baker for pick 3.

Nobody is going to be happy. Both camps will be pissed off
1. The people that wanted to split 3 for more picks because in the end we will have one first round pick this year and it's in top 15. WTF
2. The people that wanted to keep 3

 

[pantskyle]

Slow news day it seems.

 

[rebel23]

You do know pick 14 or 12 is going to be gobbled up with Baker?

So it's pick 12 + Baker for pick 3

Yes i get that... Although it's a dumb trade for the Eagles to make...

It would be funny to see it happen...

Clarke and Pyke

By the way.... Baker way better than Kennedy

 

[Bender_]

So the hawks offer was just 14...

Theyre clowns to think that wouldve got over the line

Looks like I found The Gun on X:

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

So much angst over a B grader in Baker.

I honestly don't care if we get him or not .

Rather take Dev and carroll for cheap and keep our picks .

Maybe swap 3 on draft night for 2 first rounders

 

[Keys]

We should get Baker then trade him to Freo for pick 11

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

We need a feather in Freo’s cap
10 11 and 18 for both Bolton and Baker

Come on Purples - save us from ourself

 

[amazingjoshy]

So they are offering both picks they got for the 14 they offered us but we have to throw in a pick….. so they have decreased their offer.

It’s a bold strategy

From the article

https://archive.is/JLdvq

"But the Hawks are likely to only offer up a future first and second-rounder for Barrass _ and ask for a third-rounder back _ rather than satisfy the Eagles request for two first-round picks."

"Hawthorn was not even prepared to offer up its pick 14 and a future second-rounder for Barrass before Friday’s pick swap, so the parties are still some way away."

As long as we're prepared to hold him (which we should be) let them offer whatever they want till they satisfy us.

Baker should be completely separate, and we should be prepared to walk away from him also if necessary

 

[eaglevision]

The Hawks seem to have traded 14 without a deal in place with us for the picks they were receiving, which I find quite surprising.

I’m very happy to tell the Hawks it’s 2 x F1 for Barrass and our F3 and just run the clock down. If they don’t trade then happy to keep him. In the meantime field offers from Dogs, Pies, Blues and even the Swans.

 

[Bender_]

The Hawks seem to have traded 14 without a deal in place with us for the picks they were receiving, which I find quite surprising.

I’m very happy to tell the Hawks it’s 2 x F1 for Barrass and our F3 and just run the clock down. If they don’t trade then happy to keep him. In the meantime field offers from Dogs, Pies, Blues and even the Swans.

Why do we even need to give anything back?