List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[maverick001]

Feels like our long and complex attempted move is;

1. Barrass for Hawks or Blues F1 and F2

2. On trade to GC for 13

3. On Trade to Swans for 19 and 22

4. 19 for Baker and keep 22

Except accepting what is essentially 13 for Barras is worse than the deal we originally knocked back which was 14 and Hawks F2 with our F3 going back

 

[stallon]

Except accepting what is essentially 13 for Barras is worse than the deal we originally knocked back which was 14 and Hawks F2 with our F3 going back

I dont think that 14+f2 for Barrass+f3 was ever offered tbh

 

[pantskyle]

I dont think that 14+f2 for Barrass+f3 was ever offered tbh

Fine line between "officially" offered and offered IMO, those talks for those picks certainly took place.

 

[lmach]

 

[DanWCE]

So just the entire trade period?

Gut feel is everything is pretty much agreed and it'll be a TV bonanza on Wednesday afternoon. There's plenty of players waiting to find new homes. I reckon the AFL want the entire 1.5 weeks worth to be crammed into the last hour or so.

 

[Dylan82]

Wander around Sydney and see how many sets of of Australian Rules goalposts you see, compared to Perth, Adelaide or Melbourne.

Participation rates even lower than your numbers would not be at all surprising. Sure, not zero, and probably higher than a decade ago, but that's because the AFL puts resources into the area - including the AFL teams, not despite it.

Plus, it's also worth noting the key role that elite schools play in sports development (as much as I hate it from an educational standpoint, but that's a whole other thing) - the elite schools in WA/SA/Vic are churning out AFL players - in NSW/Qld, they're building teams for the NRL.

The goalposts anecdote doesn't correlate with the numbers of players coming through however.


As of 2024, Qld already has more registered players than SA. NSW is on track to do that also before the end of the decade.

Look no further than the increasing numbers of northern state representation occurring in national academy squads.


The current generation of kids coming through in these states have no awareness of previous code wars where support of one over the other was absolute - they just want to play, and are more than happy to be involved in multiple codes if the opportunities are available.

You don't need goalposts to learn how to kick, handball, mark and tackle.


As for schools, in Qld alone there are 12 schools of excellence that are directly aligned with Brisbane and Gold Coast's academies. I expect similar arrangements exist in NSW as well.

It's arguable that talent development programs in the northern states are now more accessible than those in WA and SA.

 

[Bender_]

Gut feel is everything is pretty much agreed and it'll be a TV bonanza on Wednesday afternoon. There's plenty of players waiting to find new homes. I reckon the AFL want the entire 1.5 weeks worth to be crammed into the last hour or so.

You'd hope the players concerned have been made aware of the moves once they've gone through and don't have to wait until it's announced on Wednesday evening, otherwise it's a bit of a campaigner move for them to find out where their career/life is going for the sake of tv ratings that no one gives a shit about.

 

[squashface]

Gut feel is everything is pretty much agreed and it'll be a TV bonanza on Wednesday afternoon. There's plenty of players waiting to find new homes. I reckon the AFL want the entire 1.5 weeks worth to be crammed into the last hour or so.

I’ve said it before but they should just open up conversations from the day after the grand final except it’s not a big hyped up thing with any coverage and then a few weeks later have “Trade Day” where it’s all televised and all the deals go through.

But then the AFL don’t get to tweet every day for 1.5 weeks that “HUGE deals are IMMINENT”.

 

[ziad]

The goalposts anecdote doesn't correlate with the numbers of players coming through however.


As of 2024, Qld already has more registered players than SA. NSW is on track to do that also before the end of the decade.

Look no further than the increasing numbers of northern state representation occurring in national academy squads.


The current generation of kids coming through in these states have no awareness of previous code wars where support of one over the other was absolute - they just want to play, and are more than happy to be involved in multiple codes if the opportunities are available.

You don't need goalposts to learn how to kick, handball, mark and tackle.


As for schools, in Qld alone there are 12 schools of excellence that are directly aligned with Brisbane and Gold Coast's academies. I expect similar arrangements exist in NSW as well.

It's arguable that talent development programs in the northern states are now more accessible than those in WA and SA.

Growth in Sydney has been strong (from a low base) a lot of work even to establish ovals etc. People forget the Riverina is NSW - AFL heartland.

 

[Hap Hapablap]

Owies as a DFA would be a great get.

his name alone would become a crowd favourite. owiiiiiiiieeeeeees

 

[DanWCE]

You'd hope the players concerned have been made aware of the moves once they've gone through and don't have to wait until it's announced on Wednesday evening, otherwise it's a bit of a campaigner move for them to find out where their career/life is going for the sake of tv ratings that no one gives a shit about.

Schoey is live streaming it Wednesday 330pm and one of his best mates TB will be on air with him. Probably tells you all you need to know about how orchestrated it is.

Unless I am wrong. Guess we'll see.

 

[DanWCE]

 

[sey666]

Gunston and Bock Ozzy and Owies

 

[Ghossein]

Unders or overs on this thread hitting 500 pages before an actual trade happens

come on!!!!

 

[BeornJ]

Ffs, I'm in hospital after vomiting blood, can i get some god damn trades to melt about?!

 

[Shuestar13]

The whole thing is stage managed garbage. See you on Wednesday evening

 

[Dylan82]

Ffs, I'm in hospital after vomiting blood, can i get some god damn trades to melt about?!

Bed-wetting going to all-new levels now...



Seriously though, hope you're doing alright there.

 

[BeornJ]

Bed-wetting going to all-new levels now...



Seriously though, hope you're doing alright there.

Ha ha, three teams now.

Score one for the blood vomitters.

Yeah much better now. Lovely results of tonsil and adenoid surgery. Thanks mate

 

[ziad]

Ffs, I'm in hospital after vomiting blood, can i get some god damn trades to melt about?!

best wishes, I though the trade stuff was a health hazard.

 

[DanWCE]

Ha ha, three teams now.

Score one for the blood vomitters.

Yeah much better now. Lovely results of tonsil and adenoid surgery. Thanks mate

My 2 year old had this done and carried on less. What gives?

 

[pantskyle]

My 2 year old had this done and carried on less. What gives?

Maybe he is only 1 you jerk.

 

[mat11]

Schofield on Shelter FootyCast posted today, just said Pick 14 was never on the table for TB, it was always future picks. Said Eagles may have wanted it, but it was always future picks.
If you knew this information Schofield, why talk about it after the fact when everyone else was talking about pick 14 being part of the discussion for Baker!
If true what Schofield is saying, what future picks do we want? I wonder if Pick 14 was never part of the original conversations for Baker as so repeatedly talked about by the media

Hopefully enough capital to trade into GC pick 6 is what I hope we get for barass. So maybe 2 firsts and we send a f3 back to Hawks. If Warner is on the cards next year, we have not only our f1 next year but the ability to trade futures 2 years in advance. In my opinion we should be trying to get back into the top 10 with barass this year

On SM-A155F using BigFooty.com mobile app

 

[DanWCE]

Maybe he is only 1 you jerk.

BornJustyesterday

 

[Wadsworth]

BornJustyesterday

So... qualified to be our list manager according to many on here.

 

[Seadog]

page 480 still no trades, getting there

Never was so much written by so many about so little.