List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Feels like our long and complex attempted move is;

1. Barrass for Hawks or Blues F1 and F2

2. On trade to GC for 13

3. On Trade to Swans for 19 and 22

4. 19 for Baker and keep 22

 

[Dylan82]

Any chance it’s a sneaky pick 3 and change for Warner? Seems intentionally open ended.

Theres a decent chance that’s the highest pick the Swans will get for him over the next 2 years so they might pull the trigger if they’re resigned to losing him?

Zero chance Ch.Warner goes this year.

Swans are in a contending window and he's on a low-value contract through next year.


They will hold him to 2025 at the minimum.

 

[TerryFilk]

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Feels like our long and complex attempted move is;

. Barrass for Hawks or Blues F and F

. On trade to GC for

. On Trade to Swans for [emoji[emoji6][emoji6]] and

. [emoji[emoji6][emoji6]] for Baker and keep

North have tabled their F to the Suns for , Saints also have.

I don’t see them accepting our offer over theirs and probably others too.

 

[Keys]

Suggests us trading a pick in the 60’s for Owies. Hard to get overly excited about but he’s cheap depth and might suit our game plan

Small forward who’s already 27 wouldn’t have been a high priority with Baker still expected to come in

This might also explain why we’re seemingly not interested in Robertson although I’m not sure why we aren’t. Dev would be a better fit and is younger.

 

[new breed]

Feels like our long and complex attempted move is;

1. Barrass for Hawks or Blues F1 and F2

2. On trade to GC for 13

3. On Trade to Swans for 19 and 22

4. 19 for Baker and keep 22

Long way around but might be okay , Hawks are approaching Geelong levels .

 

[Happy Mastenator]

2024
Hawks F1 (~pick 15) + Blues F1 (~pick 16) -> Tom Barass

2025
Eagles 1st (~pick 5) + one of Hawks/Blues F1 -> Warner.

The above seems the best possible option for us. Question as to what we have to send back with Tommy. Given that those F1'st's are unlikely to be valuable (other than Warner trade) as Hawks and Blues are likely to be good and lots of academy kids, hopefully only a F3 from us.

Use Pick 3 this year on a gun mid (~Draper), the 2025 you're rolling out Reid, Draper, Warner as your primary mids. Job done.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Chief I feel like the whole forum needs I Survived Trade Period 2024 badges. This has been very very lacklustre and I would like to formalise the occasion. Thoughts?

Am I dreaming, or did the AFL once held off on announcing last minute trades until the last moments of the trade period so they can be televised?

 

[Mr Q]

Im not saying to abandon it, but it will never even out under the current system. I saw something that GC have 800+ kids in their academy, basically every kid in their zone who plays footy they get access so. We get a few aboriginal kids from rural areas. Its just not comparable.

Just need to reduce access for the northern clubs

However, one thing we repeatedly see is the big Melbourne clubs raiding the northern clubs for Vic talent that they pick up with early picks. It's why GC and GWS in particular always have 1000 early picks.

In reality, the academies just allow them somewhere to plant those picks they get for things like Lukosius just walking away without as much flight risk. Think of all the talent that's walked out of those clubs, then consider the picks in return as going toward academy players. Would be a good outcome.

 

[Spooky17]

3 to GC for 13 and Jedd Walter

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I’d love that, but zero chance the suns do it.

3 for Jedd wouldn’t even cut it.

I know he was a big eagles fan growing, hopefully we can see him in the number 17 for us in years to come.

 

[stallon]

Suggests us trading a pick in the 60’s for Owies. Hard to get overly excited about but he’s cheap depth and might suit our game plan

Small forward who’s already 27 wouldn’t have been a high priority with Baker still expected to come in

This might also explain why we’re seemingly not interested in Robertson although I’m not sure why we aren’t. Dev would be a better fit and is younger.

Idk why we'd even offer a 60s pick, unless we want to be nice to the Blues for some reason.
Take him as a DFA

 

[eaglevision]

Suggests us trading a pick in the 60’s for Owies. Hard to get overly excited about but he’s cheap depth and might suit our game plan

Small forward who’s already 27 wouldn’t have been a high priority with Baker still expected to come in

This might also explain why we’re seemingly not interested in Robertson although I’m not sure why we aren’t. Dev would be a better fit and is younger.

See what I mean?

 

[THE A5]

Owies should bring a lot of Hurt factor


















Ok will let my self out now

 

[DanWCE]

Suggests us trading a pick in the 60’s for Owies. Hard to get overly excited about but he’s cheap depth and might suit our game plan

Small forward who’s already 27 wouldn’t have been a high priority with Baker still expected to come in

This might also explain why we’re seemingly not interested in Robertson although I’m not sure why we aren’t. Dev would be a better fit and is younger.

Lions were only considering moving Dev on if they could convert him for x amount of points I thought, which was equivalent to a second rounder. Way overs given what he's shown, but he is contracted.

If it is true that Dev was ready to walk last year until Fagan talked him out of it at the BnF, that little chit chat has cost him a heap of footy and might see him finish up in the AFL system completely by the end of 2025.

 

[bzparkes]

Chief I feel like the whole forum needs I Survived Trade Period 2024 badges. This has been very very lacklustre and I would like to formalise the occasion. Thoughts?

Dude, this period has had far more action than many other previous years.

 

[stallon]

However, one thing we repeatedly see is the big Melbourne clubs raiding the northern clubs for Vic talent that they pick up with early picks. It's why GC and GWS in particular always have 1000 early picks.

In reality, the academies just allow them somewhere to plant those picks they get for things like Lukosius just walking away without as much flight risk. Think of all the talent that's walked out of those clubs, then consider the picks in return as going toward academy players. Would be a good outcome.

Again, im not arguing against their existence. Having access to that many kids early in the draft is whats ruining the picks

 

[Forward Press]

Idk why we'd even offer a 60s pick, unless we want to be nice to the Blues for some reason.
Take him as a DFA

Yep, this would be a better deal than Baker imo. I rate Owies similar enough and we would not have to part with much.

 

[Sammy J]

Owies for nothing is good business tbh

 

[stallon]

Yep, this would be a better deal than Baker imo. I rate Owies similar enough and we would not have to part with much.

Baker is definitely a better player, but Owies for sure based on value

 

[Mop]

Am I dreaming, or did the AFL once held off on announcing last minute trades until the last moments of the trade period so they can be televised?

Pretty sure it was last year

 

[Mr Q]

No it wouldn't.

NSW has a population of 8.5M; Qld has 5.5M - WA and SA combined have 4.8M.


Participation rates in Qld at 33% of those in WA would still provide a greater number of players.

Likewise with participation rates at just 25% of WA in NSW.

Wander around Sydney and see how many sets of of Australian Rules goalposts you see, compared to Perth, Adelaide or Melbourne.

Participation rates even lower than your numbers would not be at all surprising. Sure, not zero, and probably higher than a decade ago, but that's because the AFL puts resources into the area - including the AFL teams, not despite it.

Plus, it's also worth noting the key role that elite schools play in sports development (as much as I hate it from an educational standpoint, but that's a whole other thing) - the elite schools in WA/SA/Vic are churning out AFL players - in NSW/Qld, they're building teams for the NRL.

 

[Sammy J]

Owies fits that same age profile gap we have on the list. If he’s a Cripps replacement as he retires, I’m good with that. Handy depth at minimum.

 

[Dylan82]

Am I dreaming, or did the AFL once held off on announcing last minute trades until the last moments of the trade period so they can be televised?

Since 2022 there has been an embargo on not being able to announce trades before 3pm AEDT on the final day to manufacture tension...


Thus allowing all the "drama" to be televised on prime-time when the trading ends 7:30pm AEDT on Wednesday.

 

[PRANKSTER666]

I dont see how we can do Baker before Barrass without trading #3 or F1?

They better not f*ck it up this year trying to be too clever again.

 

[ziad]

Suggests us trading a pick in the 60’s for Owies. Hard to get overly excited about but he’s cheap depth and might suit our game plan

Small forward who’s already 27 wouldn’t have been a high priority with Baker still expected to come in

This might also explain why we’re seemingly not interested in Robertson although I’m not sure why we aren’t. Dev would be a better fit and is younger.

hard working team player - could do far worse

 

[Deepthroat]

Owies => Ed Langdon

15

Ed Langdon

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

78kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.0

5star

K

12.1

4star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.0

5star

T

2.3

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

20.3

5star

K

12.8

5star

HB

7.5

4star

M

4.5

4star

T

0.8

1star

CL

1.8

4star

D

13.0

4star

K

6.4

3star

HB

6.6

4star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.4

4star

CL

0.6

3star