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Whose future picks would you have preferred?


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Trade period
In:
12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

  • Jai Culley, Alex Witherden and Coby Burgiel delisted






  • Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones and Jordyn Baker delisted

 
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Taking no news as good news RE TB deal. Means we’re sticking firm and expect it to go down to the wire when Hawks hopefully fold.
What are we expecting to get out of the hawks? Surely a future first + second wont be enough to get the Barrass deal over the line? Dude's contracted and one of the better defenders in the game.
 
Don't see the appeal with Owies, he's best close to goal and we already have a superior player in Ryan. He's slow and i don't think he would help with forward pressure and locking the ball in our F50. Would much prefer giving games to Brockman, Champion or Petrucelle.

That proposed trade with Carlton is also gross, please don't do anything stupid.
 

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Carlton still coming hard for West Coast's pick 3 using picks 12 and 14 - with 14 being proposed to be sent on to Tigers for Liam Baker. Shaping as a key option for deals to get done if Eagles decide to split. Eagles have held interest in Matt Owies as well.
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In hindsight you’d take Whitfield high, but who would you take higher then?

Whitfield was the hyped number 1 pick that year and has lived up to every bit of it.
You're still not getting the "hindsight" bit. In hindsight, I'm taking him at 1. I rate him highly. Always have. There's only 4 or so good non-FS's in the whole draft. It's a shocking draft.

My point is this: For every Whitfield, there are 5 outsiders taken in the top 10 who are busts. Don't take an outsider in the top 10. Sure, you miss out on Whitfield but you also miss on all those other spuds. Anyone who thinks they can magically choose which outsiders will be guns and which ones will be busts, is delulu.

Take this year's draft: Smith, Draper, FOS, Lalor, Smillie, Langford. How do you know which of them ends up Paddy Cripps league, which end up Jack Crisp league, and which ones end up Kane Tenace league. We don't know. You might be able to guess it right this year, but then you're probably guessing wrong next year.

The only thing we really know are the percentages. Whittle it down using percentages, then go on gut feel, or data, or whatever.
 
So still nothing has changed. Owies and Carroll wouldn’t move that needle at all. Even Clarke isn’t dumb enough to move out of the top 6, let alone top 3. If the Rioli deal goes through don’t be surprised for us to end up swapping 3 for 6 and Baker. Total s**tshow.

Given what is being reported and happened/not happened over the past week, I’m starting to feel like Baker for a Pick 3 to Pick 6 slide is in best case scenario areas.
 
AFL HQ went back to pre-J.Ugle-Hagan rules after the debacle last year with L.Collard.


Official "reason" was to keep numbers of indigenous draftees from falling.

Doesn't help us at all, but it allows the Bombers to match on I.Kako in the first round this year.
At least we don't have to worry about walley having a blinder

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Don't see the appeal with Owies, he's best close to goal and we already have a superior player in Ryan. He's slow and i don't think he would help with forward pressure and locking the ball in our F50. Would much prefer giving games to Brockman, Champion or Petrucelle.

That proposed trade with Carlton is also gross, please don't do anything stupid.

Liam Ryan as a player at the moment is lucky to be in the side… when did he last kick 30 goals in two consecutive years?


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Baker was apparently told we'd cough up a pick between 15-20 for him, and somehow now it's being proposed we'll trade down from 3 for 14 to use 14 on Baker.

Might I ask who is proposing that 14 gets Baker? Can't imagine it's us unless we're getting something back from Richmond in addition to Baker.

Downside of us shutting up shop and not speaking to the media is they are doing all the speculative talking on our behalf.
 

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It would take a hell of a lot more for 12 and 14 to get pick 3 and that doesn't include adding a player who will be delisted if not traded in Owies.
 
Given what is being reported and happened/not happened over the past week, I’m starting to feel like Baker for a Pick 3 to Pick 6 slide is in best case scenario areas.
FOS for Travaglia and Baker…

Hawks F1 for Richmond F2 is the best deal IMO. Clarke has absolutely f**ked his handling of this. Just accept it’s not the right time for us and let Freo use all their 1Rs.
 
3 for 12, 24, Baker, Owies

Could we get someone like Moir or Motlop thrown in as well? Clutching at straws here.
 
Friendly reminder that Carlton wanting it and West Coast agreeing to it are very different things

I want to win lotto, which is probably just as likely to happen as us accepting 12+14 for 3.
 
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