List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Tugga27]

I've been one of those that has always backed the club in. Sometimes wrongly.

Trading pick 3 for 12 and 14 was horrendous to start with.
But doing it so we could get Baker and to a lesser extent Owies is unforgivable in my eyes.

I'm devastated TBH.

 

[Big_Tony]

Look, I can see what they were trying to do. The problem is we got squeezed on both sides of the deal. 3 for 12,14,73 (Owies should have been a DFA) in an even draft is not great... if that 73 was say a mid 30s pick I'd feel a lot better. Then 14 for Baker really needed to have a late second or early 3rd coming back imo. Both deals together compound into something that looks very unbalanced against us.


Gonna have to accept it and move on, would hate to see the case where fans (myself included) are poisoned against new players before they even play for us. At the end of the day "barracking" for your club in trade week is a fools game, you'll never be happy. Looking forward to the focus returning to on-field where it actually matters.

 

[Sammy J]

Carlton and Richmond both make out like bandits here. 14 for Baker?

12 and Owies for 3!?!

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

Who the **** is Matt Owies??

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

The most perplexing thing for me is why we rejected pick 14 for Barrass which we could’ve used on Baker and kept pick 3??? Instead we slid from 3 to 12 for absolutely no reason

MAKE IT MAKE SENSE

Wasn't it cos we wanted another pick?

 

[Tugga27]

If all the posturing about wanting a fair deal for Richmond is true, than it is on him.

Yeah nah.

At the end of the day, it's on WC, not Baker.

 

[kerrazy]

We have to get two f1s from hawks now. Please?

 

[Avalor]

Could it be that the VAFL is behind this - maybe there is a priority pick that we don't know about yet. That's my one hope in all of this crapfest.

 

[FKASC]

So does today make our top 10 worst ever days as a club?

Does for me. Makes me not want to watch footy for a few years tbh

Opposition fans will absolutely love the meltage on here but **** it. It’s warranted

 

[Keys]

Truly awful. Someone with a brain tell me how this affects a Champion bid please.

Torpedo’d ourselves here, by the looks.

Pick 73 will come in a fair bit on trade night due to clubs matching bids on other players prior to a potential bid on Champion - which may not even come

Don’t think it will impact our ability to match

 

[BG__]

if we wanted to go this stupid route we could have even just split 3 for freo's 10 and 18 and traded 18 for baker while keeping 10 for ourselves and tigers get 3 for bolton

 

[Andyy]

Trying to look at this positively.

WCE have slid down 9 spots in an allegedly solid top 20-30.

9 spots to secure Baker and Owies.

Obviously they see a player they think will still be around for P14-15 after slides?

So probably hoping to bring in a good draftee and experience in Baker + Owies.

 

[WCErevival]

 

[RookiePick]

We're in a literal prison with this gd club. You think we are staring to get back on the rails with some quality decision making at the top and then categorically show we a bush league joke.

 

[Ishmael_]

Yeah nah.

At the end of the day, it's on WC, not Baker.

Nah, he could have agreed to walk. He didn't have to express that he wants Richmond taken care of.

He's happily mortgaged the club's future for his retirement fund.

He's not the prime culprit but he's part of this.

 

[squashface]

FIVE year deal for Baker btw

 

[Westend]

When you consider Owies would've been delisted and Baker isn't worth 14, the answer is yes.

Its frustrating Tuggs but still got to remain positive I guess

Reckon the club judges this draft as fairly even and that 12 is the equivalent as those in the top 10??

and they already have an eye on someone they reckon they can get at 12 ??

I am just trying to work this out .....

 

[kerrazy]

I'm waiting for an explanation from.the club. Break it down for us. Tell us how we won out of this trade.

 

[MaxHunt]

3 years for Owies...

Wow he was begging for a 1 year one at Carlton lol ffs

Hi had a huge price on his head too. Something like 800k

 

[bzparkes]

Who we emailing?

 

[KERRPOW]

I'm violently ill in the office right now

rightfully so they are copping a bashing.

 

[Manbearpig77]

That is a genuinely disgusting trade.

This club has completely lost it’s way and doesn’t even look close to finding it’s way back.

Making it very hard to continue to support them.

 

[bzparkes]

Trying to look at this positively.

WCE have slid down 9 spots in an allegedly solid top 20-30.

9 spots to secure Baker and Owies.

Obviously they see a player they think will still be around for P14-15 after slides?

So probably hoping to bring in a good draftee and experience in Baker + Owies.

There is nothing positive in this.

 

[JackOutback]

I'm not reading 40 new pages but I assume the board is taking this well?

3 for 12 and 14 is a poor deal on an ordinary day, giving up an all-but-guaranteed quality player for two gambles that may or may not pay off in the teens. But when one of those picks is flipped to get you a 27-year-old dependable utility that is not elite in any way, leaving you with just one roll of the dice, it becomes horrific. Particularly when, if the club had a spine, you could have got him for 26 or nothing in the PSD, as well as Owies, who was already told he was being delisted. Then to give picks back to Carlton? I'm dumbfounded. This is Freo/Gold Coast levels of incompetence.

2nd worst, 2005 GF can't be topped.

I had a great time in a London pub, the game was a classic, and at least respected Sydney and was happy to see their drought end, despite the pain of losing. This is worse.

 

[FKASC]

Surely this is all 4D chess from Richmond FC to try and weaken WC and use their plants (Clarke, McQualter, Baker and Graham) to promote Richmond to Reid.

Reid to Richmond in a year’s time!