List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[6285sutto]

Warner is a gun. One of the most damaging mids in the comp, good age and is from WA.

The ‘downhill skier’ accusation that occasionally gets rolled out on here is nonsense. He is one of Sydney’s only players to show up in their GF defeats and almost single handedly (along with Heeney) dug them out of a late season slump with a couple of elite performances late in games when they were getting beaten and ‘the going was tough’. Better player than TK ever was.

Showed up in the last grand final in the 2nd half after they had already lost the game....

 

[Bacchus]

Is Bo Allen a Ginbey clone

I quite like the little of him that I have seen.

Has size, burst speed, a long left foot kick, not afraid to get his hands dirty, likes to tackle.
I would be happy with him as a recruit.

It would be difficult to choose if it was between him and Travaglia. Lindsay is also a good player who has skills we need.

They will probably choose a tall or someone we have never heard of.

 

[ronpingwins]

How tall is Bo Allen?

Compared to Ginbey?

Compared to Curtin?

Seems like a bit if both

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191cm I think. In between both I think. Not a clone of Ginbey but definitely similarities. He’s a mid teens level talent. Doesn’t seem to be an accumulator at any level

 

[MIKE85]

Wouldn’t Sydney be better off letting Warner go this year while still contracted, rather than end of next season when he’s out of contract? That’s if he is keeen to leave. We should just throw them pick 12 and whatever we get for Barrass today. Then we’ve still got our own first round pick next year which will likely be top 5.

 

[Obeanie1]

Imagine recognising it's time to rebuild and immediately offloading old players en mass and replacing with a mass cluster of elite teenagers in a super draft who will all develop at the same time. Are they nuts?

You mean like North did?

 

[random260]

I will say my respect for West Australians and many Eagles supporters this week has diminished.

Talk about throwing the toys out of the cot.

Seriously embarrassing content on here the past couple of days.

Yes because a majority of us are not happy clapping seals and understand the moves we made has the potential to give us a decade of doom.

The odds we regress next year with an aging Tim Kely and Yeo has gone up a tick.

Our five year plan is shocking
And out 10 year plan is horrific.

 

[Obeanie1]

Dude we traded pick 3 away , gave pick 14 for Baker while giving Owies a 3 year deal after

The club has lost their minds.... Stop pretending its the fans who have

I have no doubts who has lost their minds.

Zero.

Nada.

The reaction from some fans regarding this is embarrassing. You are one of them.

Encouraging fans to boo the new players. WTF?

It's just childish behaviour.

 

[xLeCrAs2x]

191cm I think. In between both I think. Not a clone of Ginbey but definitely similarities. He’s a mid teens level talent. Doesn’t seem to be an accumulator at any level

Seems perfect for west coast based on recent history

 

[RookiePick]

But the reality is the AFL has created such a boom or bust cycle that this is somehow seen as a good thing. It's a disaster. There is no easy way to rebuild under the current system. What's the point in being a 7 win team? Might as well be a 2 win team and sell the fans on kids.

This is the elephant in the room. Teams used to be able to try and improve, try to push toward making the bottom of the eight and still access Top 10 picks to continue to round out their list quality.

With expansion on the number of teams, academies and now FA compensation on top of the odd FS selection the risk of being caught in no mans land is greatly increased. Finishing 9-12 is purgatory - your list is clearly not in contention but your odds of getting enough missing pieces before age gets the better of you good players is getting vanishingly small.

I think we are going to see an increase in clubs choosing to burn it all down and be uncompetitive for several years which just diminishes the whole competition.

It's going to be a total farce when Tassie comes in and the club is knackered from the start because they are limited in selecting the best available talent. The rest of the clubs without the concessions to protect their talent assets will pay the price as Tassie scoops up everything else that isn't locked down. Tassie will then continue to get prolonged assistance which just extends the pain.

It's a tragedy that the biggest sport in the nation has been steered for so long by vested interests who aren't half as smart as they fancy themselves.

 

[Obeanie1]

As much as we want Travaglia I can see us taking Allen coz WA kid.

As we know, what fans want and what the club want are miles apart

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If we pick Allan with TT available.

That would be very disappointing g.

WC Phill?

Did you interview TT. Is he in play if available at our pick?

 

[mattyc75]

Giving pick 3 away, wreaks of new management, prioritising short term success ahead of the long term. Which is more in their own interests.

I thought maybe Worsfold returning before the draft, would be a voice to stop such nonsense.

Worsfold whilst a club legend was in charge while cousins and co were running rampant. Mightve just stuck his head in the sand again

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[Broken_Chairs]

2 x F1s with our F2 going back should get done.

Hawks will know we will likely be shithouse again and they can back themselves in to go for a GF so the difference between our F2 and their F1 won’t be much

Not going to lie - I'm going to froth deathriding both Hawks and Carlton next year

 

[MaxHunt]

He is just another cog in the rebuild. No one player fixes the issues. And certainly not an 18 year old unknown.

It's not what he brings but the cost. Need a number of the younger players to step up in 2025 to make the cost worth it. And from exposed form I'm not that confident.

 

[boondy]

I'm a Bo Allen fan so Dockers with pick 14 gives us a chance to get him . Then we win the draft / trade imo

 

[Spod]

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Wouldn’t Sydney be better off letting Warner go this year while still contracted, rather than end of next season when he’s out of contract? That’s if he is keeen to leave. We should just throw them pick 12 and whatever we get for Barrass today. Then we’ve still got our own first round pick next year which will likely be top 5.

I think they'd want to keep him - on a cheap contract for 1 more year and they want a flag.

He'll still be worth a shitload next year

 

[greatwhiteshark]

Richmond have absolutely managed to get peak value for all their outgoing players so far (excluding Graham compo). It's absurd. Someone call their bluff on Rioli FFS.

I think it's widely known and accepted they're going to be crap for a while with their new list profile being full of young kids..

But deary me it'll be interesting watching to see how quickly it takes them to overtake us in the rebuild in a couple years time.

Having an absolute bounty of top end talent In a deep draft sets them up hugely. Add a couple FA'S in the right age bracket, given they'll have the salary cap and look appealing, and suddenly they're a competitive club on the rise again before Tazzy start ruining the drafts.

Bit like Hawthorn.

Hopefully none of it happens and it all goes to shit.

We have Matt Owies anyway, so we'll be fine.

Can’t have it both ways though, if I said trade out Allen today for Warner the board would go into a meltdown.
Why? It would be a logical move in the right direction.

The other difference is that our players don’t want to leave like Richmond players do because we are too nice to them. They can get big contracts at the Eagles, not held to account to perform and you wonder why they won’t leave.
I agree with you we need to be better, much better in fact but we have a built in DNA now of being too nice and would rather look good with the public than be seen as a ruthless win at all costs club.

 

[RookiePick]

Worsfold whilst a club legend was in charge while cousins and co were running rampant. Mightve just stuck his head in the sand again

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Didn't Worsfold get appointed the week before last and isn't even starting for a bit?

Seems a long bow to draw that he has had anything to do with our trade/draft strategy.

 

[greatwhiteshark]

It's not what he brings but the cost. Need a number of the younger players to step up in 2025 to make the cost worth it. And from exposed form I'm not that confident.

He is a bloody good player mate, you don’t knock them back if you can get them. I wouldn’t give up picks, I would give up Oscar in a heartbeat.

 

[Ghossein]

Didn't Worsfold get appointed the week before last and isn't even starting for a bit?

Seems a long bow to draw that he has had anything to do with our trade/draft strategy.

this thread has divorced itself from rationality many pages ago

 

[MaxHunt]

He is a bloody good player mate, you don’t knock them back if you can get them. I wouldn’t give up picks, I would give up Oscar in a heartbeat.

He's a gun, no doubt but he's only one person who would cost a lot. As it stands I think he would cost too much because of the lack of support in the middle and the age of who is in there now. The middle needs more guys who can run through there and perform at a high level.

 

[random260]

Who do we believe in?

 

[pantskyle]

Wouldn’t Sydney be better off letting Warner go this year while still contracted, rather than end of next season when he’s out of contract? That’s if he is keeen to leave. We should just throw them pick 12 and whatever we get for Barrass today. Then we’ve still got our own first round pick next year which will likely be top 5.

Sydney have him on a very modest deal for another 12 months, they would be mad to let him go.

 

[BartBart]

Happy Overs & Unders Day people.

Where we receive Unders on the Barrass trade and where we could give big Overs for Robertson.

 

[pantskyle]

Who do we believe in?

Not Jon Ralph.

Although I hope he is correct.