List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Bender_]

Ryan Daniels

@FootyRhino
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One recent discussion for the Tom Barrass

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Tom Barrass

Age

29

Ht

197cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.2

3star

K

8.8

3star

HB

3.4

3star

M

6.1

5star

T

0.9

3star

MG

158.5

3star

D

10.1

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

2.1

2star

M

5.6

5star

T

0.3

1star

MG

139.6

2star

D

11.4

3star

K

7.2

3star

HB

4.2

4star

M

5.2

5star

T

0.4

3star

MG

160.0

3star

deal:Barrass and a future 3 Goodwills to @HawthornFCA future 4th a Bock and 2 Gunstons @WestCoastEagles37 mins remain.
3:54 PM · Oct 16, 2024

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[element]

I have no faith that they'll hold tight on the 2xF1 and will accept the latest deal.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Proven to be a soft touch when getting players we’ve committed to.

But gee it would be nice to be hardasses when trying to pry required players away. At the very minimum sets an excellent standard for any H Reid chaos (he’s not going anywhere, relax).

 

[Hamann188]

Blowing it all up and building with a bunch of talented young kids can work, but it can also not work at all. Good Coast were given most of the first round in 2010 and have had any number of top 10 picks over the years; they’ve still never played finals. Since 2017 North have drafted at 4, 8, 3 and 13, 1, 3 and 4, and 2 and 4, and they’re still terrible.

Drafting early is great but people really tend to underestimate the inherent risk in having a rebuilding plan which is completely contingent on identifying the best teenagers, most of whom are not physically or emotionally mature, playing in different structures, and none of whom have been in anything resembling a professional football atmosphere with that being their actual job (as opposed to an activity they do outside of school hours).

No I get that and I understand the trepidation.

On top of that you've got a new head coach which isn't ideal, no idea if he has any skill in developing new, young players.

Honestly my only concern for you guys IS the Tassie expansion. If that weren't a factor, then yeah, go for gold, trade in those big experienced names.

Hard to tell which is the wisest course of action. Your position is kind of unprecedented.

 

[pantskyle]

Hmm that's getting to the right spot.

 

[Smeg Head]

Thats starting to get better, gives us more options to turn over the list as well which we badly need.

 

[Jupes]

if that deal is proposed by us we've already folded

 

[Cursedsword02]

Assuming we take this deal, I'd be in the ear of all the QLD and NSW teams with our F2s in hand, Gold Coast in particular.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Or hand finishes with
1. 3x year olds
2. 1 x 30 year old KPd
3. Downgraded pick 3 to 12

Wow that's not a rebuilding. There not a single thing that shouts we are rebuilding

I know we all want to play the youth, but reckon we might be going too far the other way on that one.

 

[Bender_]

Hmm that's getting to the right spot.

Tell me when you're close.

 

[Wce17]

I'd hold firm at this point. We screwed ourselves with Baker and Richmond knew it. Clubs are going to come after Reid hard next year, whether he wants to continue with us or not. This feels a bit like drafting Reid last year - do it to show clubs that we're playing our game, not theirs. Worst case is we keep Barrass and have a likely pick 3 to offer Sydney for Warner next year.

Or you trade Barrass today. Give that likely pick 3 for Warner & still have currency to draft some more kids. Keeping Barrass just to prove a point doesn’t really help us at all.

 

[Barrybran]

Depending on who put this forward, could be Hawks have come up or could be we’ve budged down from two firsts.

Now hit them with 2 x F1 + F3 for Barrass + F3

 

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Ryan Daniels
@FootyRhino
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One recent discussion for the Tom Barrass deal:Barrass and a future 3 Goodwills to @HawthornFCA future 4th a Bock and 2 Gunstons @WestCoastEagles37 mins remain.
3:54 PM · Oct 16, 2024
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huge if true

 

[Altum Volantes]

They aren’t getting 2 x F1. No faith at all that will be done.

F1 + 2 x F2 is a cop out.

 

[Ghossein]

dont mind the F1 and 2x F2s

 

[eaglespremiers]

Hawthorn created this situation.
They pursued Barrass (a contracted player) and convinced him to come to them.
They then traded away the pick that would be the cornerstone (but not all) of the deal last week for future picks.
They now aren't prepared to put up surplus future picks (which are clearly worth less to virtually all teams) despite having no other draft capital.
If Barrass isn't traded Hawthorn cannot come out after trade period and say that they gave it their best shot to get Barrass, because they clearly didn't.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Assuming we take this deal, I'd be in the ear of all the QLD and NSW teams with our F2s in hand, Gold Coast in particular.

With the AFL culling the points value of crap picks (thirds and fourths all piled together to equal a top 20 pick), the future seconds could have quite a bit of utility as the rare picks that could be stockpiled for points. Could get us back into the first round pretty well, next year most likely.

 

[happy_eagle]

Realised that we missed a significant opportunity by not getting Pick 13 and trading that to Baker.

"West Coast trade a Bakers dozen for Baker"

 

[Dark Sharks]

Any word from Ryan Daniels? Haven’t seen any tweets from him

It's still on

 

[TY24]

Scenes if we take Peatling in the PSD



(I know we won't but it would be very funny)

 

[Barrybran]

Tell me when you're close.

Don't pull out now

 

[Hook461123]

This all sounds good in theory but we’re in the last hour and Hawthorn still haven’t put an acceptable offer on the table

Yeah but we didn't even reply to their offer in the first two days apparently. Not sure if that was our attempt at gamesmanship but hard to get a deal done if we don't even talk to them.
Don't get me wrong hawks have been **** but I don't think we've played it very well. We pretty much have to hold firm now just to save face a bit. At the detriment to our rebuild

 

[amazingjoshy]

It's still on

Chapter 777

 

[kaiserchief13]

Accept it

 

[DanWCE]

Proven to be a soft touch when getting players we’ve committed to.

But gee it would be nice to be hardasses when trying to pry required players away. At the very minimum sets an excellent standard for any H Reid chaos (he’s not going anywhere, relax).

We haven't had many opportunities to play hard ball as we're a club players typically want to stay at. Most of our trade interactions is bringing players in, and so yes, we're typical on the losing end of the scale (as should be expected).

Freo win so many trades because they have so many players wanting out.