List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[Farang83150]

Still saying on gettable KPD's are rare as hens teeth....top dollar for TB incoming!

 

[1Bally1]

If I take all emotion out of it, Petruccelle, Maric and Culley for Baker, Blight and Kaleb Smith I could stomach but giving Maric a tap on the shoulder after his commitment and public comments would be gut wrenching.

Not Maric he has potential to be to great for this team he wants to stay ship em Barnett

 

[Get_The_Gaff]

Petch at Carlton does make sense from a needs perspective.

Swap for Jack Carrol?

Owies would be an upgrade on any small forward we have atm,

Owies isn't going anywhere. Carlton have lots of OOC players because they count as list spots to take into the draft for their father sons .

I'd expect they have contracts but not lodged yet .

Collingwood did the same thing with OOC player when diacos came in

 

[Godfather32]

If I take all emotion out of it, Petruccelle, Maric and Culley for Baker, Blight and Kaleb Smith I could stomach but giving Maric a tap on the shoulder after his commitment and public comments would be gut wrenching.

No chance I'm including Maric

 

[eaglevision]

Not Maric he has potential to be to great for this team he wants to stay ship em Barnett

Sounds good but Richmond just won’t take that deal.

Baker is worth a fair bit more than Maric
Petch is worth a fair bit more than Smith
Culley and Blight are worth about the same

Other than Baker wanting out it’s a roughly balanced exchange of positional needs. It will be a dagger for them to lose Baker and Maric for us.

I don’t want Baker at all so I’m not at all advocating for this deal, but to me that’s something like how it looks.

 

[1Bally1]

Sounds good but Richmond just won’t take that deal.

Baker is worth a fair bit more than Maric
Petch is worth a fair bit more than Smith
Culley and Blight are worth about the same

Other than Baker wanting out it’s a roughly balanced exchange of positional needs. It will be a dagger for them to lose Baker and Maric for us.

I don’t want Baker at all so I’m not at all advocating for this deal, but to me that’s something like how it looks.

I reckon pick 23 and a f2 for baker and maybe blight as a sweetener. The Richmond board reckon a first rounder and maybe a second rounder they are delusional.

 

[Barrybran]

If I take all emotion out of it, Petruccelle, Maric and Culley for Baker, Blight and Kaleb Smith I could stomach but giving Maric a tap on the shoulder after his commitment and public comments would be gut wrenching.

I'd love to keep Culley and Maric but I think Culley is in a queue as both a mid and a forward whereas I think there is untapped potential for Maric as a defender. Obviously we tried Maric back there a little late in the season but I'd love to see how he goes with a pull preseason there under his belt. He likely starts in WAFL but if we're thinking of delisting Rotham AND Witherden, there's a chance he lines up there round 1.

 

[mat11]

Maric has to stay he is one big pre season away from a breakout year and can play several different roles

Culley or chesser can be moved on to Richmond

 

[southcoast]

I reckon pick 23 and a f2 for baker and maybe blight as a sweetener. The Richmond board reckon a first rounder and maybe a second rounder they are delusional.

Ahhhhh, the old east to west inflationary factor. We must include that equation when talking trades.


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[eaglevision]

I reckon pick 23 and a f2 for baker and maybe blight as a sweetener. The Richmond board reckon a first rounder and maybe a second rounder they are delusional.

Ignore the Richmond board and Ralph. Both delusional about Baker’s value. Bond made a comment a little while ago that Baker’s value is about our 2R and he’s probably right but I don’t want to give up picks for him. So if we’re swapping players that’s a deal Richmond would take seriously as hard as it would be to stomach.

 

[Barrybran]

I reckon pick 23 and a f2 for baker and maybe blight as a sweetener. The Richmond board reckon a first rounder and maybe a second rounder they are delusional.

Richmond fans in general are delusional at the moment

 

[Into The Black]

Baker ? Please no.

 

[shooshka]

I'd love to keep Culley and Maric but I think Culley is in a queue as both a mid and a forward whereas I think there is untapped potential for Maric as a defender. Obviously we tried Maric back there a little late in the season but I'd love to see how he goes with a pull preseason there under his belt. He likely starts in WAFL but if we're thinking of delisting Rotham AND Witherden, there's a chance he lines up there round 1.

Maric is ahead of Rotham, should be ahead of Witherden as well.

I know this is going to sound ridiculous, but his value to us (not open market) is probably mid-1st-round levels in draft capital.

He is best 22 and young. Lowish production but an elite user, building his tank and has positional versatility. His height plus agility (and pace - not anything outstanding but good enough for a player of his size) is a combo we lack elsewhere.

Borderline untouchable imo (and I admit I would have said the same about petch at the same age, so it can go either way).


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[Keys]

Good summary of options/hopes

Whilst I love Harley starting in the guts each week, he desperately needs help. He also needs time as a forward target because we got ourselves a brilliant burst player, not an endurance beast. Unfortunately the Pieman has left us with Yeo being the only hardened inside mid. Kelly will be better on a wing or hff with occasional mid time. Hewett now looks a real worry and will take a fair time to get AFL ready if his foot can heal. Sheed is cooked. Ginbey looks best off the hbf

So we must go to market.

In terms of trading for midfielders, my preference in order
1. Peatling - main board says we have largest offer and Hawks F2 sounds ok (I’d be asking for a R3 back this year if possible)
2. Sheldrick - a F3 is my start point but might be a able to do better with a F2 if they can give us a pick in the 40’s now
3. Robertson - provided a swap of F3, I’m happy and would offer inside grunt and defensive mid
4. Parfitt - FA and has decent pace and we offer more likely starting than Cats
5. Graham - again FA but sense his lack of pace will piss me off in 3 years time

I actually don’t see Baker as a full time mid. I think he is a good player but he likely plays a utility role with stints running as a mid. If Tigers want to much, we need the AFL to cough up a FA band 3 and overpay for Graham. I’d like to explore Baker for Petruccelle plus ?? It could be Baker plus their R3 for Petch and our R2.

i get the love for Maric but if we could get Baker for Maric plus a F3, would you do it?

I like the Darling and pick 59 for picks 40,64. J Williams development this year has been great as has the form of Archer later in the season. I’d be prepared to chip in some salary to make it Darling for 40 and 64.

I see Baker as a Cripps replacement as he gets phased out during next year

Not keen on trading out Maric. Think he has some very good AFL traits and is arguably one of our top 5 kicks. Can see him playing a similar role to Sicily for us

 

[MerryHell]

Trade out Maric is nuts.

Id also love to see him tried in the backline. Possible his elite kicking could be close to jetta like for us, with added benefit of marking skills.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

If I take all emotion out of it, Petruccelle, Maric and Culley for Baker, Blight and Kaleb Smith I could stomach but giving Maric a tap on the shoulder after his commitment and public comments would be gut wrenching.

Would just be shitting on the little culture we have left. Trading Maric is the dumbest suggestion of the whole trade period

 

[kerrazy]

Anyone wanting maric to be part of the Baker deal has rocks in their head.

 

[eaglevision]

Would just be shitting on the little culture we have left. Trading Maric is the dumbest suggestion of the whole trade period

I said Richmond would suggest it, so take it up with them. I don’t want Baker.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I reckon pick 23 and a f2 for baker and maybe blight as a sweetener. The Richmond board reckon a first rounder and maybe a second rounder they are delusional.

I don't want to pay even 23 alone.

 

[ArdentEagle]

I see Baker as a Cripps replacement as he gets phased out during next year

Not keen on trading out Maric. Think he has some very good AFL traits and is arguably one of our top 5 kicks. Can see him playing a similar role to Sicily for us

I recon Joe Richards would be perfect for this.

 

[Spooky17]

Maric is a gun, would be unwise to trade him.

 

[Monocle]

FFS enough of the " trading Maric out".

 

[random260]

Just bring Dev home.

Agreeded. Somebody needs to tell lions to push him out. It's apparent he's really Stubborn

 

[Ghossein]

He'd be comfortably around 197cm no shoes, 200cm with shoes.

I was talking to him, he was standing next to shelving which is exactly 190cm high. (Same height as me roughly so I had good perspective)
He cleared it by 10cm in shoes.

any details on the shoes

 

[PremiershipNo4]

Would just be shitting on the little culture we have left. Trading Maric is the dumbest suggestion of the whole trade period

I thought the one about trading Oscar Allen was up there too