List Mgmt. Contract, Trade and Draft Discussions - 2024 Post Season

[Keys]

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Trade period
In: 12, F1, F2, F3, 73, Baker, Owies, Graham*
Out: 3, 63, F4, Barrass, Darling

*Free agent

Done deals

• Jai Culley, Alex Witherden
  23

  Alex Witherden

  Age

  26

  Ht

  188cm

  Wt

  85kg

  Pos.

  Def

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  20.7

  5star

  K

  15.2

  5star

  HB

  5.5

  4star

  M

  6.2

  5star

  T

  1.8

  4star

  MG

  386.5

  5star

  D

  13.0

  3star

  K

  10.0

  4star

  HB

  3.0

  2star

  M

  7.0

  5star

  T

  0.0

  1star

  MG

  201.0

  3star

  D

  24.0

  5star

  K

  15.4

  5star

  HB

  8.6

  5star

  M

  5.8

  5star

  T

  2.2

  4star

  MG

  380.2

  5star

  and Coby Burgiel delisted
  • Burgiel to be considered as a train on player

• Tom Barrass traded to Hawthorn
  • In: F1, F2, F3 (HAW)
  • Out: Barrass, F4

• Liam Baker and Matt Owies join West Coast in Pick 3 trade
  • In: Baker, Owies, 12, 73
  • Out: 3, 63, 68

• Jack Darling traded to North Melbourne for Pick 67

• Jack Graham joins West Coast as UFA

• Jake Waterman re-signs with West Coast until at least 2029

• Zane Trew, Jamaine Jones
  31

  Jamaine Jones

  Age

  26

  Ht

  180cm

  Wt

  80kg

  Pos.

  D/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  9.0

  2star

  K

  4.8

  2star

  HB

  4.2

  3star

  M

  2.1

  2star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  MG

  159.6

  3star

  D

  10.5

  3star

  K

  6.5

  3star

  HB

  4.0

  3star

  M

  2.5

  3star

  T

  4.0

  5star

  MG

  196.5

  3star

  D

  9.0

  3star

  K

  4.2

  2star

  HB

  4.8

  4star

  M

  2.4

  3star

  T

  4.2

  5star

  MG

  166.0

  3star

  and Jordyn Baker delisted

• Archer Reid (2027), Loch Rawlinson (2025), and Coen Livingstone (2025) sign extensions

 

[EagleEgo]

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Look at these idiots.

Even bypassing what a stupid trade that is for WCE they can’t even get the picks right.

I am not here to argue about if Baker worth pick 13 or not.
Whoever prepared this "Mega" trade has to answer the question.
If WCE received for TB from Hawthorn pick 13 + pick 30 and Richmond is willing to take pick 13 for Baker, then why we don't deal with Richmond directly and get Baker and pick 30 (instead of Baker + F4 Port from this Mega trade)? In short, why we have to involve Carlton and Port Adelaide.
Note that I don't think Baker worth a pick 13 anyway.

 

[southcoast]

The Richmond board seem to think Graham is staying put now. Not sure what seems to have changed, but they aren’t happy about it.

Could be a rinse and repeat from his Port Adelaide visit a couple of years ago.

He was gone, gone, gone then …………… maybe………….. no, he’s staying.


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[KERRPOW]

The Richmond board seem to think Graham is staying put now. Not sure what seems to have changed, but they aren’t happy about it.

Fek, i am.

 

[eaglevision]

I am not here to argue about if Baker worth pick 13 or not.
Whoever prepared this "Mega" trade has to answer the question.
If WCE received for TB from Hawthorn pick 13 + pick 30 and Richmond is willing to take pick 13 for Baker, then why we don't deal with Richmond directly and get Baker and pick 30 (instead of Baker + F4 Port from this Mega trade)? In short, why we have to involve Carlton and Port Adelaide.
Note that I don't think Baker worth a pick 13 anyway.

Exactly my point. Whichever peanut prepared that is being paid to comment on the draft and trade space. sharps24 ‘s views on Jamie Cripps are more balanced than this.

 

[Elite Pete]

The Richmond board seem to think Graham is staying put now. Not sure what seems to have changed, but they aren’t happy about it.

Might be the case but they they also had ‘inside word’ that Baker was staying all year too.

Didn’t mind the Graham signing but prefer others, let’s hope the list team take it as true and now pivot to Garcia and Dev.

 

[Keys]

Could be a rinse and repeat from his Port Adelaide visit a couple of years ago.

He was gone, gone, gone then …………… maybe………….. no, he’s staying.


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That was more Port who dropped their interest in Graham the instant they Horne-Francis on the hook

Understandable for Port but they left Graham swinging in the breeze

 

[InTheWings]

The Richmond board seem to think Graham is staying put now. Not sure what seems to have changed, but they aren’t happy about it.

Maybe Mini told him he wouldn't always be in the best 23.

 

[Mop]

Twomey just saying us and North and both open to trade backs.
Goes on to mention pick 14 and Liam Baker

3

Liam Baker

Age

26

Ht

173cm

Wt

72kg

Pos.

D/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

15.7

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

7.9

5star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.6

4star

MG

222.2

3star

D

14.6

4star

K

6.8

3star

HB

7.9

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

3star

MG

191.9

3star

D

14.4

4star

K

6.2

3star

HB

8.2

5star

M

1.6

2star

T

1.8

4star

MG

224.2

4star

again though. Ugh

NORTH Melbourne's No.2 pick and West Coast's No.3 selection are on the table as trade chips as clubs contemplate moves up the draft board.

The Roos have been open to splitting the pick for another top-10 selection and a future first-round choice, while the Eagles have dangled their top choice in a mix of trade possibilities as they look to boost their draft hand whilst also securing trade target Liam Baker.

 

[Mop]

North is also among the clubs to have put forward its future first-round pick to try to buy back into this year's top-end, with the selection also on the table as the Roos chase Port Adelaide star Dan Houston.

The Eagles have placed pick three in the trade mix, with a number of clubs eyeing ways to include the selection as part of deals that send players different ways.

With Gold Coast having pick No.6 on the table for Daniel Rioli, and the out-of-contract Baker wanting to join the Eagles, the possibility of pick No.3 being involved in in a mix that would see the Eagles get a pick go back their way and be able to land Baker has also been raised.

But other avenues to split the pick into multiple choices also exist, particularly with the Eagles set on pick 14 from the Hawks coming their way as part of the Tom Barrass deal.

 

[Elite Pete]

Top picks on table, Crows moves keep coming, Combine watch

Check out all the latest trade news from around the League

www.afl.com.au

 

[eaglevision]

The Roos have been open to splitting the pick for another top-10 selection and a future first-round choice,

North is also among the clubs to have put forward its future first-round pick to try to buy back into this year's top-end, with the selection also on the table as the Roos chase Port Adelaide star Dan Houston.

So Norf looking to trade back this year’s 1st rounder to get a F1 but are also looking to trade their F1 to get a 1st rounder this year…

Norf gunna Norf I guess.

 

[Mop]

So Norf looking to trade back this year’s 1st rounder to get a F1 but are also looking to trade their F1 to get a 1st rounder this year…

Norf gunna Norf I guess.

Could it be they instead want to offer one of the split firsts instead of the f1 for their deals? Seems savvy enough

 

[Carbine Chaos]

The Richmond board seem to think Graham is staying put now. Not sure what seems to have changed, but they aren’t happy about it.

Can you direct us to any particular posts/posters, mate? Had a quick glance and couldn't really see that discussion.

 

[eaglevision]

Could it be they instead want to offer one of the split firsts instead of the f1 for their deals? Seems savvy enough

As the buyer they are going to get skimmed on both transactions and still end up with picks in the same rounds. The bit about pick 3 shuffling is concerning…

 

[Spod]

The Eagles have placed pick three in the trade mix, with a number of clubs eyeing ways to include the selection as part of deals that send players different ways.

With Gold Coast having pick No.6 on the table for Daniel Rioli, and the out-of-contract Baker wanting to join the Eagles, the possibility of pick No.3 being involved in in a mix that would see the Eagles get a pick go back their way and be able to land Baker has also been raised.

But other avenues to split the pick into multiple choices also exist, particularly with the Eagles set on pick 14 from the Hawks coming their way as part of the Tom Barrass deal.

This seems to be reading as 3+? for 6+Baker maybe also including 14 somehow but presumably with us keeping two first rounders. If that's what it is (and given we may well be happy with who we can get at 6) it seems more palatable than just handing 14 over.

 

[garlic munchers]

Trading in spuds for the sake of trading is a shit move long term...

And letting go of jets for crap value is another shit move...

Our avenues have been decimated this year by corrupt AFL compo picks

Should reevaluate in 12months

I love trading... But we seem to be getting reamed in scenarios

Imagine how rooted we would have been without bottoming out in 22, 23 & 24 and rather getting our firsts in the 6-8 range and then being pushed back further by AFL shitefullness?

Actually don’t if you want to enjoy your weekend!

 

[Elite Pete]

So Norf looking to trade back this year’s 1st rounder to get a F1 but are also looking to trade their F1 to get a 1st rounder this year…

Norf gunna Norf I guess.

You’d think Essendon would be their buyer if Kako top 10 rumours continue.

Looks like we might have multiple buyers in Saints and Richmond/Suns.

If we get that Future first from the Hawks I really hope that’s included and the Suns pick 13 gets thrown in.

 

[Elite Pete]

This seems to be reading as 3+? for 6+Baker maybe also including 14 somehow but presumably with us keeping two first rounders. If that's what it is (and given we may well be happy with who we can get at 6) it seems more palatable than just handing 14 over.

I read it if we go the Richmond route. Baker + ? (6 you’d hope but maybe 10 ) for 3. They could well get both Lalor and FOS who they have their eyes on apparently. Jagga as back up. Don’t think any of them are there at 6.

The 14 to be included if it’s Saints 3 + 14 for 7 + 8

 

[mat11]

Barass + f2 to Hawks for 14 + F1
14 + hawks F1 to Gold Coast 6
3 to Adel for 4 + F2

No one loses here. Westcoast go to the draft with 4,6,26,61(darling),62. Guarantee one of lalor, fos, langford or smillie and Travaglia. Getting the f2 back from Adelaide means we don't hurt next year's draft getting Hawks f1 and missing draper isn't the end of the world

Let GC pay pick 13 for rioli not 6, 6 is our baby. Baker deal can be done in the last 5 minutes of the trade period- pick 26 and we chuck in a fringe player or they can have a crack with freo


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[eaglevision]

You’d think Essendon would be their buyer if Kako top 10 rumours continue.

Looks like we might have multiple buyers in Saints and Richmond/Suns.

If we get that Future first from the Hawks I really hope that’s included and the Suns pick 13 gets thrown in.

SOS loves a bid

 

[Elite Pete]

SOS loves a bid

The media are definitely talking then into it but also going by the age article yesterday the had the Dees very interested with 6* too

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

If Jagga Smith is there at 3 I hope we take him.

100% and random260 you get stuffed as I know you'll thumbs down this post..

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

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Look at these idiots.

Even bypassing what a stupid trade that is for WCE they can’t even get the picks right.

 

[ziad]

Lets speculate. Most Brownlow votes - HR. Build a team around HR? Then, don't keep trading down the draft as HR needs real quality around him. All the Ginbeys under the sun will not get it done.

 

[Elite Pete]

Lets speculate. Most Brownlow votes - HR. Build a team around HR? Then, don't keep trading down the draft as HR needs real quality around him. All the Ginbeys under the sun will not get it done.

I guess the thought process is they can get who they want at 3 with 6? And Baker on top. Everyone’s draft board will be different.