List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion - 2022 Off Season Edition

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Contract status of all players now fully updated

The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[FKASC]

He’s no Daniher that’s for sure

 

[Kegs15]

The way Naughton is going, his body will be shot by 28/29.

I don't know what the Dogs have been doing for him to help develop and expand his skills, he's still a one trick pony; fly for a mark. Outside of his marking ability, he's a pretty useless tall forward.

Don't disagree with the body shot part but definitely think when your one wood is as good as his, in a position where that's exactly what you need, reckon he's a good tall forward.

Launches himself at everything and has become a better set shot as well. When their other young talls develop into serious (and consistent) threats themselves he'll be able to pick and choose his contests more.

Think in general though the Dogs have their positional age profiles a bit off - feel like in a perfect world you want your core mids to hit 23-27 when your key talls hit 27-29. They've sort of swapped that order around, Bont will be 30 before Ugle-Hagan or Darcy turn 24. So am not confident he'll have an unbelievable career at the dogs - but think he genuinely may do at Freo.

 

[SetsSailForHome]

Alex Condon this week named in the Australian Boomers Squad (as a train on) for a pair of upcoming World Cup Qualifiers.
Also starred for WA's winning team in the National Champs last week!

think Basketball is going ok for him at this point...

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/basketball/fiba-world-cup-qualifiers-boomers-urged-to-blood-rocco-zikarsky-in-melbourne-games/news-story/9dc5a4cf5dc745cca3e3b382fddeb9b1

 

[WCE_phil]

Alex Condon this week named in the Australian Boomers Squad (as a train on) for a pair of upcoming World Cup Qualifiers.
Also starred for WA's winning team in the National Champs last week!

think Basketball is going ok for him at this point...

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/basketball/fiba-world-cup-qualifiers-boomers-urged-to-blood-rocco-zikarsky-in-melbourne-games/news-story/9dc5a4cf5dc745cca3e3b382fddeb9b1

Here's the thing, if he makes to NBA, drafted and is even a g-league then NBA bench player for 5-6 years he's still going to 100% out earn any AFL players career.

 

[briztoon]

Here's the thing, if he makes to NBA, drafted and is even a g-league then NBA bench player for 5-6 years he's still going to 100% out earn any AFL players career.

If he's just a serviceable big man, he'll out earn a whole teams tpp every year he's in the league. After his rookie contract.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Yeah but if he plays AFL everyone will say he has a basketball background.

 

[bzparkes]

Yeah but if he plays AFL everyone will say he has a basketball background.

So if he ends up a professional BB player, will everyone reference him having an Aussie Rules background?

 

[briztoon]

So if he ends up a professional BB player, will everyone reference him having an Aussie Rules background?

Yes.

 

[bzparkes]

Yes.

 

[Farang83150]

Here's the thing, if he makes to NBA, drafted and is even a g-league then NBA bench player for 5-6 years he's still going to 100% out earn any AFL players career.

Just googled g league d/t curiosity (don't know FA about basketball or their different leagues)
I'm sure I'm missing something, they must be on more than that?

Google says:
Per The Athletic's Shams Charania, the league's wages are being augmented by $3,500, going from $37,000 to $40,500. This is the first time in the G League's history that players will have an average salary of over $40,000. Furthermore, this marks a +15% increase in salary for the league in the last two seasons

 

[Godfather32]

Just googled g league d/t curiosity (don't know FA about basketball or their different leagues)
I'm sure I'm missing something, they must be on more than that?

Google says:
Per The Athletic's Shams Charania, the league's wages are being augmented by $3,500, going from $37,000 to $40,500. This is the first time in the G League's history that players will have an average salary of over $40,000. Furthermore, this marks a +15% increase in salary for the league in the last two seasons

I think he means getting drafted to an NBA team then getting assigned to their G League team/riding the NBA team's bench. Which would earn him a minimum salary of over $1mill a year

 

[shooshka]

I think he means getting drafted to an NBA team then getting assigned to their G League team/riding the NBA team's bench. Which would earn him a minimum salary of over $1mill a year

Yep - $40k for G league contract, minimum of $508k for a two-way-NBA-contract - even if that player spends almost all of the season in the G league.

It is a ridiculous gap in wages to be honest. $40k wouldn't be enough to live on, and obviously $500k puts them in the top 1% (or even less) of wage earners.

However, the AFL to VFL wage gap is similar (actually larger on a percentage scale) so maybe that is just what elite sport is.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

For players that don’t make the NBA, the biggest earning opportunities are in Europe or China/Japan. The NBL is probably a tier below that. I didn’t realize the G-League pay was so low but I guess the advantage is that you keep yourself under the nose of NBA teams. Also, living in a foreign country isn’t for everyone so it might be attractive for American players.

No idea how good Condon’s prospects are but very few Aussies end up making the NBA, he’d have to be absolutely elite to get to that level.

 

[briztoon]

Yep - $40k for G league contract, minimum of $508k for a two-way-NBA-contract - even if that player spends almost all of the season in the G league.

It is a ridiculous gap in wages to be honest. $40k wouldn't be enough to live on, and obviously $500k puts them in the top 1% (or even less) of wage earners.

However, the AFL to VFL wage gap is similar (actually larger on a percentage scale) so maybe that is just what elite sport is.

There are teachers in the USA on $40k. As a straight conversion, that’s approximately AUS$58,500.

There are lots of Aussies who live on $58k.

 

[DanWCE]

There are teachers in the USA on $40k. As a straight conversion, that’s approximately AUS$58,500.

There are lots of Aussies who live on $58k.

I'd say it's surviving more than living these days.

 

[briztoon]

I'd say it's surviving more than living these days.

For a single kid/man?

There are a lot of employees at my work on that type of money.

Quite a few married couples, even two generations of families.

Yes it’s below the national average income, but there are a lot of people on this type of income.

You adjust your living standards to your income.

 

[ArdentEagle]

For a single kid/man?

There are a lot of employees at my work on that type of money.

Quite a few married couples, even two generations of families.

Yes it’s below the national average income, but there are a lot of people on this type of income.

You adjust your living standards to your income.

Do you have kids?

 

[RookiePick]

For a single kid/man?

There are a lot of employees at my work on that type of money.

Quite a few married couples, even two generations of families.

Yes it’s below the national average income, but there are a lot of people on this type of income.

You adjust your living standards to your income.

George Calombaris confirmed.

 

[shooshka]

For a single kid/man?

There are a lot of employees at my work on that type of money.

Quite a few married couples, even two generations of families.

Yes it’s below the national average income, but there are a lot of people on this type of income.

You adjust your living standards to your income.

Sure, but we are talking about elite (or attempting to be elite) athletes here.

Constant travel & specific dietary requirements aren't cheap. Unlikely they can live in a small town and commute to training and the airport - they would likely need to live near or around the more expensive city areas to make it viable.

Maybe they get by, but it isn't very much money

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[juddy_Like]

I always assumed the g-league was like the wafl.

Where I’ve started paying attention to it is that high school kids that can’t be bothered going to class are choosing the g-league over top flight colleges which wasn’t the case about five years ago.

 

[DanWCE]

For a single kid/man?

There are a lot of employees at my work on that type of money.

Quite a few married couples, even two generations of families.

Yes it’s below the national average income, but there are a lot of people on this type of income.

You adjust your living standards to your income.

You could live in a share house as a single bloke on that sort of coin but you still wouldn't be living much of a life. Not even clearing a grand a week.

 

[WCErevival]

Itd enough money for a block of bush chook and a couple of packets of Coles sausages every week.

 

[shoutsatclouds]

Itd enough money for a block of bush chook and a couple of packets of Coles sausages every week.

living the dream...

 

[Farang83150]

Sure, but we are talking about elite (or attempting to be elite) athletes here.

Constant travel & specific dietary requirements aren't cheap. Unlikely they can live in a small town and commute to training and the airport - they would likely need to live near or around the more expensive city areas to make it viable.

Maybe they get by, but it isn't very much money

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It's FA, trying to exist in any big city in the states on that would be no fun at all.

 

[briztoon]

Do you have kids?

1. She's 4.