List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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[Obeanie1]

You're confusing ruthlessness with incompetent list management. They're literally paying the wage of a best 22 player for a fellow flag contender?

And Hawthorn is paying a lump of Mitchells.

As for incompetent we played each other in a GF four years ago. We are now stone motherless last staring down the barrel of landing multiple wooden spoons.

And Collingwood? Well their 'incompetent list managers have them sitting on top of the ladder as flag favourites.

So I do question your view on the incompetence of Collingwoods list management.

 

[Goroyals22]

You're confusing ruthlessness with incompetent list management. They're literally paying the wage of a best 22 player for a fellow flag contender?

And if they win the flag or make the grand final this year does that really matter? At all?




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[Convocation]

Kane Cornes on SEN this morning said "I'm hearing Mitch Georgiadis will sign a small (2 years) contract with Port"

 

[Monocle]

Kane Cornes on SEN this morning said "I'm hearing Mitch Georgiadis will sign a small (2 years) contract with Port"

Excellent news..........if true.

 

[ziad]

Kane Cornes on SEN this morning said "I'm hearing Mitch Georgiadis will sign a small (2 years) contract with Port"

Good, surplus to our requirements.

 

[Free Agent]

Kane Cornes on SEN this morning said "I'm hearing Mitch Georgiadis will sign a small (2 years) contract with Port"

Good do not want him.

 

[DanWCE]

A lot will depend on whether Yeo can stay on the park for the rest of the season.

He’s the youngest of our veterans and is contracted for next year so would likely be considered a required player by the club

Assuming you could convince him to shift (unlike many of our other senior players he doesn’t have kids or even a partner) and it would likely take a 3 year deal on decent money for him to consider it, then a trade value is dependent on what WCE want

Based on the current ladder, your pick 14 is too much and 33 isn’t likely to be sufficient so it’s not straight forward - we’d need to add something with Yeo for 14 or you’ll need to add something to 33

Can’t be bothering arguing about what those somethings might be though because it’s hypothetical

Pretty sure Yeo is dating Tess Goodbody (great name). He and Duggan seem the most likely to be pried out given they have no children.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Kane Cornes on SEN this morning said "I'm hearing Mitch Georgiadis will sign a small (2 years) contract with Port"

Good. Then we don't have to make a stupid decision to consider him.

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[Spooky17]

With Maric, and to a lesser extent Waterman, that 3rd tall forward role is already filled.

 

[Cuzz09]

Good. Then we don't have to make a stupid decision to consider him.

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LoL feels like this lately

Take decisions out of our clubs hands.



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[Bender_]

Pretty sure Yeo is dating Tess Goodbody (great name). He and Duggan seem the most likely to be pried out given they have no children.

So jealous of her RN.

 

[DanWCE]

So jealous of her RN.

Because of her name, or dating Yeo, or not having kids?

 

[Bender_]

Because of her name, or dating Yeo, or not having kids?

A through to C

 

[kane249]

A through to C

So you wouldn't give her the D then

 

[Farang83150]

A through to C

I'm calling BS re C!

 

[Bender_]

I'm calling BS re C!

Haha probably all 3 are BS to be honest, just going with the flow.

 

[Farang83150]

Haha probably all 3 are BS to be honest, just going with the flow.

Good time hear your not actually jealous she's going out with Eliot

 

[bUCKET__]

A few people saying that Reid's goals weren't all that impressive, which I find very weird cos any time our side has managed to kick a goal this year has been pretty impressive to me.

 

[JackOutback]

With Maric, and to a lesser extent Waterman, that 3rd tall forward role is already filled.

Georgiades would likely be an upgrade on both. Would be happy to take him for free, but don't want to get bogged down negotiating with Port.If he walks to the PSD great, if not, that's fine too.

 

[Nuffington Post]

It would hurt given he is so great to watch, but is Liam Ryan

1

Liam Ryan

Age

28

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

someone who has trade value? He will be 28 next year and unlikely to be in our next premiership. Injuries starting to get to him.


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[WCE_phil]

It would hurt given he is so great to watch, but is Liam Ryan someone who has trade value? He will be 28 next year and unlikely to be in our next premiership. Injuries starting to get to him.


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His Mrs would beat the shit out of him if he even suggested moving interstate.

 

[the harry]

And if they win the flag or make the grand final this year does that really matter? At all?




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It matters to the extent that we use their practices as a bench mark?

 

[the harry]

And Hawthorn is paying a lump of Mitchells.

As for incompetent we played each other in a GF four years ago. We are now stone motherless last staring down the barrel of landing multiple wooden spoons.

And Collingwood? Well their 'incompetent list managers have them sitting on top of the ladder as flag favourites.

So I do question your veiw on the incompetence of Collingwoods list management.

I would love for our senior players to have aged like sidebottom and scott pendlebury and our CHB to be in line for AA captain like Moore. But that's not happened and isn't in itself a sign of good or bad list management.

They also got Daicos, despite not having a first round pick and who would be the highest pick we've had since 2010.

There are plenty of reasons to criticise the club the last few years but at least try a bit harder to pick a valid reason.

 

[Big_Birdy]

I would love for our senior players to have aged like sidebottom and scott pendlebury and our CHB to be in line for AA captain like Moore. But that's not happened and isn't in itself a sign of good or bad list management.

They also got Daicos, despite not having a first round pick and who would be the highest pick we've had since 2010.

There are plenty of reasons to criticise the club the last few years but at least try a bit harder to pick a valid reason.

The way people ignore that Collingwood finished second bottom since the 2018 GF is quite baffling to be honest. It was a COVID affected year, but still.

 

[JackOutback]

It would hurt given he is so great to watch, but is Liam Ryan someone who has trade value? He will be 28 next year and unlikely to be in our next premiership. Injuries starting to get to him.


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The only players with trade value would be (top tier) Allen, Barrass, (next tier) Ryan, Yeo, (bottom tier) Darling, Duggan and Petrucelle, imo. Then it's a matter of calculating who is open to a trade, who is worth more to us staying either as a star or developing, and who would net us something of value. Allen is off the table, I don't think Yeo would get a pick worth losing his leadership for, and not sure Darling would net us anything worth sacrificing the coverhe gives Allen. Which leaves Barrass and Ryan who could get us something of value and Duggan and Petrucelle who could probably get us token picks.