List Mgmt. Contract, Trade & Draftee Discussion, 2023: Picks 1,20,34,39,53 ,58

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2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[Obeanie1]

Surely every 18 year old would prefer to be drafted in their home state.

Depends on the kid and where they are from.

Some kids cant wait to move interstate and live somewhere different. Warmer with more things to do is attractive. Cost of living another.

 

[pantskyle]

Clarified again to me today that a lot would have to change for North not to take McKercher.

 

[Obeanie1]

100% behind this.
Complete overhaul of the academies and how they work is needed at same time.

Would be good to see each state having a single academy thats backed by AFL but co-operated by all the clubs. Have an 'Academy Draft' reverse ladder order but each club gets one pick only. Rest of academy players move over to the main AFL rookie draft that operates along the points system in place.

Automatic priority pick for anyone finishing with 3 or less wins.

No more father-son.

Hows this for a father son sollution.

Father sons enter an auction where clubs bid points based on the picks they hold. Club with FS access holds call on final bid. They do something like this overseas in some comps.

Basically the entire 18 teams have access if they make the highest bid. Open market and player goes to who is willing to pay the most.

Would make exciting live TV.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Clarified again to me today that a lot would have to change for North not to take McKercher.

They’re not worried about prospect of him leaving for the new Tasmania side in a few years? Or they think there’s a decent chance they’ll be merged with the new Tasmania side anyway?

 

[pantskyle]

They’re not worried about prospect of him leaving for the new Tasmania side in a few years? Or they think there’s a decent chance they’ll be merged with the new Tasmania side anyway?

No further comment.

 

[Convocation]

Brockman, Flyin, Long is an exciting small forward line to go with Oscar, JD (if he stays, we don't trade) Maric, and Culley (if that's where we see his future)

 

[WCEConnor23]

Twomey just reiterated on Gettable a fair price for Barrass would be Sydney's first and second rounder. He also said he's thinks it will happen and potentially shape the trade period.

 

[bzparkes]

Clarified again to me today that a lot would have to change for North not to take McKercher.

Guess we'll be going through the PP merry-go-round again next year for North, when they're bereft of quality KPPs...

 

[Frederico_WA]

Twomey just reiterated on Gettable a fair price for Barrass would be Sydney's first and second rounder. He also said he's thinks it will happen and potentially shape the trade period.

I'd forgo those and try get McDonald home to WA

 

[Convocation]

Those with better draft knowledge then me, I've seen the below comparison from foxsports and others of Daniel Curtain to Marcus Bontempelli

4

Marcus Bontempelli

Age

29

Ht

194cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.5

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

10.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

18.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

8.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

4.0

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

1.8

4star

.
Given he has only recently gone into the middle, and there is a bit to play out for the rest of the year, is there similarities to the Bont in his midfield craft, or is this hyperbole, and he will be a backman for his career?

"A 195cm prospect from Claremont, there was a bit of Marcus Bontempelli

4

Marcus Bontempelli

Age

29

Ht

194cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

22.5

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

10.3

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

18.4

4star

K

9.7

4star

HB

8.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

4.1

5star

CL

4.0

5star

D

12.0

3star

K

5.8

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

1.8

4star

about Curtin as he calmly stepped through traffic and wheeled onto his left boot from stoppage during Sunday’s game."

Curtain - 195kg & 93kg
Bontempelli- 191 & 83kg (now listed at 194 & 96kg)

 

[dinnaz]

traditionally we have been very good at retaining non WA talent.

The Chicken or Egg though

 

[bzparkes]

Those with better draft knowledge then me, I've seen the below comparison from foxsports and others of Daniel Curtain to Marcus Bontempelli.
Given he has only recently gone into the middle, and there is a bit to play out for the rest of the year, is there similarities to the Bont in his midfield craft, or is this hyperbole, and he will be a backman for his career?

"A 195cm prospect from Claremont, there was a bit of Marcus Bontempelli about Curtin as he calmly stepped through traffic and wheeled onto his left boot from stoppage during Sunday’s game."

Curtain - 195kg & 93kg
Bontempelli- 191 & 83kg (now listed at 194 & 96kg)

Unlike The Bont, Curtin can actually kick.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Clarified again to me today that a lot would have to change for North not to take McKercher.

Reports from Sam McClure are that McKercher doesnt want to move to Victoria because he wants to be closer to his family who have recently relocated to Perth to support his mothers new career as a Hungry Jacks franchisee owner

 

[Mop]

A split pick isn’t the worst outcome as long as we actually get fair value for what an open Harley Reid is worth, otherwise we double down and take the lad anyway and try make it work.

 

[dinnaz]

Brockman hasn't signed yet. Rumours he may want to go home.
DGB, there is always talk he may also want to return at some stage.
I'm assuming the clubs have spoken. Unsure of the exact deal, but there will be discussion.

All delist material

 

[Chump Change]

Twomey just reiterated on Gettable a fair price for Barrass would be Sydney's first and second rounder. He also said he's thinks it will happen and potentially shape the trade period.

Overs for mine but will take deal. Sold.

 

[dinnaz]

I'd forgo those and try get McDonald home to WA

Why tho, he hasn't done much

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Reid ain't coming to Perth.

Pick 3 will get you Curtin.

Let's start talking.

Dyler Turden

There is a reason your club is called the poos and wees.

 

[Frederico_WA]

Why tho, he hasn't done much

Still 21. Is the exact age JK came over from Carlton where he also had done nothing. It's a sign.

 

[Chump Change]

Why tho, he hasn't done much

He'll be a gun. He's just waiting for Buddy to * off.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Melbourne specifically really want Reid so this board should not be shocked if Dees 1st and F1 along with Freo first is offered to the Eagles for pick 1 with perhaps a second rounder going back to them whether this years or next.

Eagles certainly looking locally with Curtin and Hardeman high up on the lists.

The worse Freo go the better their R1 pick held by Melbourne looks. It could be used for Curtin, hence the more I warm to a Melbourne bid.

If it was 4, and a couple of picks around 16/17 (one this and one next year), I would do it. In terms of a second going back, Port's R2 is a possible. Not our second currently at 19 as it would only be a 2 to 3 pick upgrade.

I would be less interested if Norf get a compensation or priority pick after pick 2

Ignoring academy prospects, it is looking now like : -
Harley at 1
Norf will be hard to let McKercher go at 2
I cannot see Hawks going Curtin at 3 - more likely they go Watson or Caddy
That leaves Curtin at 4 or if he is gone, Watson or Duursma. Not interested in Caddy as our first pick.

Still a couple of months to go and who knows, we might still be seeing an Clayton Oliver type come from nowhere

 

[Monsterdarlz]

Swans first as a straight swap for barrass if it’s pick 4-6 is fair

 

[TerryFilk]

Oh yeah guys, this is the kid who has zero interest in coming to WA by the way. Keep believing the obvious Victorian media agenda though

 

[dinnaz]

He'll be a gun. He's just waiting for Buddy to * off.

Wrong, if he is a gun then he would have already be thriving while getting the second defender. Amiss who plays a similar style of game has kicked 31 goals compared to 22 and is a year younger and in a bottom 6 side.
I think he's just projecting to be a solid FF who will get his 2 goals a week consistently (45-50 yearly) but not be a dominant yearly contender for the coleman.

 

[bzparkes]

Wrong, if he is a gun then he would have already be thriving while getting the second defender. Amiss who plays a similar style of game has kicked 31 goals compared to 22 and is a year younger and in a bottom 6 side.
I think he's just projecting to be a solid FF who will get his 2 goals a week consistently (45-50 yearly) but not be a dominant yearly contender for the coleman.

What were your thoughts of JK after his third season?