List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

Who do you want to get a contract?

  • Coby Burgiel

    Votes: 22 15.1%

  • Sandy Brock

    Votes: 69 47.3%

  • Neither

    Votes: 37 25.3%

  • James Van Es

    Votes: 18 12.3%
  • Total voters
    146
  • Poll closed .

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Players out of Contract 2025 (16)
  • Tim Kelly (26/7/94) - Signed a 6 year contract (2020-25) in October 2019
  • Dom Sheed (10/4/95) - Signed a 4 year extension (2022-25) in April 2021*
  • Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
  • Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
  • Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
  • Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
  • Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
  • Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
  • Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
  • (R) Jack Hutchinson (10/11/01) - Automatic 18 month contract (2024-25) when drafted in May 2024
  • (R) Tyrell Dewar (27/3/04) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in June 2024
  • (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
  • (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
  • (R) Sandy Brock (14/12/02) - Signed a 1 year contract (2025) when recruited as a SSP signing in February 2025
 
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RanaNaved said:
People go on about not drafting mids the last 2-3 years, but we got Harley, Elijah with early picks. Allan also out performed Draper in the championships, so you could add him too, and Gross.
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The problem is that we haven't drafted mids for a ten year period. We're missing that core group of 25 - 29 year olds that won't be bullied off the ball like we saw yesterday. It's ok that we've got Harley, Hewett and Allan, but ideally they would have senior players around them to carry the load.
 
Boohemian said:
The problem is that we haven't drafted mids for a ten year period. We're missing that core group of 25 - 29 year olds that won't be bullied off the ball like we saw yesterday. It's ok that we've got Harley, Hewett and Allan, but ideally they would have senior players around them to carry the load.
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That's pretty much the point I was trying to make.
 

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WCE_phil said:
People expecting 1st - 3rd year mids to be able to compete with the best of the best are idiots. Rowell was drafted as a beast in 2019 and was only really able to dominate from last year onwards. Anderson was coming from further back but with a higher ceiling and again on the inside, last year.

2024 was their 5th year as number 1 and number 2 picks.

Guys like Daicos and Ashcroft senior have been mentored and really a part of the AFL system as much as possible for years before they get drafted. You can't expect guys coming from traditional pathways to have that impact, particularly when surrounded by absolute chaff.

Hall is a genuine inside mid yet at this stage is weaker body on body than Hewett or Reid. HTF does bringing him into the side do anything other than destroy his body and confidence.

Then you have guys who are athletic freaks like Ginbey but hey guess what, he's not a midfielder as i've said all along. Just doesn't read the play at stoppages well enough. Could he become a mid in a few years time, maybe. But guys like Yeo, Dawson or even Laird who start as great HB's and become high level inside mids are rare as rocking horse shit and guess what, it also takes years.

Kelly is a ****ing joke based off of this weeks game, Sheed has been ruined by injury and we have had nothing of quality come in, in between Sheed and Hewett via the draft midfield wise.

The club can't do a Hawthorn and attract lots of opposition players to help build their squad as most players just don't want to move to WA.

Two of the clubs 3 best players yesterday were Baker and Graham. People act as though the club has done nothing to try and improve. That was game 1 into a new gameplan against the strongest inside midfield in the league. Even if fully fit Yeo would have barely moved the needle.

I said a couple of years ago 2025 would likely be our worst year. We got lucky to win some of the later games we did last year and our 2 good wins early in the year we had a fully fit Yeo and Harley played out of the box in his first year before teams had put any work into slowing him down. He's now coming into the season underdone and the opposition has worked out how to get into his head.

The midfield is a work in progress and likely still at least 3 years away. It's why I'd let Oscar walk, draft Sharp and if he still wants to come trade in Warner. The club needs to continue to work to improve the midfield as quickly as possible but this isn't going to be some amazingly sharp turnaround.
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Didn't rowell dominate from day 1? Until he did his knee?

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WCE_phil said:
People expecting 1st - 3rd year mids to be able to compete with the best of the best are idiots. Rowell was drafted as a beast in 2019 and was only really able to dominate from last year onwards. Anderson was coming from further back but with a higher ceiling and again on the inside, last year.

2024 was their 5th year as number 1 and number 2 picks.

Guys like Daicos and Ashcroft senior have been mentored and really a part of the AFL system as much as possible for years before they get drafted. You can't expect guys coming from traditional pathways to have that impact, particularly when surrounded by absolute chaff.

Hall is a genuine inside mid yet at this stage is weaker body on body than Hewett or Reid. HTF does bringing him into the side do anything other than destroy his body and confidence.

Then you have guys who are athletic freaks like Ginbey but hey guess what, he's not a midfielder as i've said all along. Just doesn't read the play at stoppages well enough. Could he become a mid in a few years time, maybe. But guys like Yeo, Dawson or even Laird who start as great HB's and become high level inside mids are rare as rocking horse shit and guess what, it also takes years.

Kelly is a ****ing joke based off of this weeks game, Sheed has been ruined by injury and we have had nothing of quality come in, in between Sheed and Hewett via the draft midfield wise.

The club can't do a Hawthorn and attract lots of opposition players to help build their squad as most players just don't want to move to WA.

Two of the clubs 3 best players yesterday were Baker and Graham. People act as though the club has done nothing to try and improve. That was game 1 into a new gameplan against the strongest inside midfield in the league. Even if fully fit Yeo would have barely moved the needle.

I said a couple of years ago 2025 would likely be our worst year. We got lucky to win some of the later games we did last year and our 2 good wins early in the year we had a fully fit Yeo and Harley played out of the box in his first year before teams had put any work into slowing him down. He's now coming into the season underdone and the opposition has worked out how to get into his head.

The midfield is a work in progress and likely still at least 3 years away. It's why I'd let Oscar walk, draft Sharp and if he still wants to come trade in Warner. The club needs to continue to work to improve the midfield as quickly as possible but this isn't going to be some amazingly sharp turnaround.
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Dyson Sharp ticks every box for us, but he’s likely a lock at pick one, I know we’re all melting about yesterday, but I can’t see anyone but Richmond finishing last still. Don’t think we’ll have a chance at Sharp.


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I thought the Suns midfield yesterday was elite......And so it should be.

They have been ordinary since their inception and the last few years they have been kissed on the dick with Academy priority, priority picks and help poaching an AFL Premiership coach.

What did we get for having one of the worst teams in the history of the AFL in 2023? Pick one, second pick at pick 30, and losing an academy prospect in the 20's because we get no special treatment.

Although I'm disappointed and deflated with the performance yesterday, I'm worried there is literally nothing we can do about it and the reality has sunk in.
 
 What did we have, half the team that played under 50 games and under the age of 22 or something with the coach that has been in the seat for one Summer trying to implement a whole new game plan?

In hindsight, i really don't understand why i expected any different.
 
WCE_phil said:
The club can't do a Hawthorn and attract lots of opposition players to help build their squad as most players just don't want to move to WA.
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This is just false.

Hawks missed out on a lot of their main targets over the last 2 years.

Ben McKay, Bailey Smith, Liam Henry, Ratugolea.

They pivoted and went for ‘lesser’ signings that fitted their need as well. Ginni, Mass and Chol and throw Meek in there and helped them a lot last year.

This year they got a couple of bigger names and rising up the ladder would’ve helped that.

Also seems to be a lot of players keen to move back to WA last season and next off season probably just not a the Eagles unless they improve.

Don’t think many think we can do a Hawks because the percentages are low on that but can definitely recruit for our needs a lot better.
 
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If the team's rucks are in dire straights then they could take a risk at the MSD by selecting Braydon Preuss. He wanted to play for a fourth club after getting delisted so that would suggest that he wants to continue at AFL level. I personally highly rate Preuss and he would easily be an upgrade on both Flynn and B.Williams in the ruck who can actually compete against top tier rucks and beat mid/lower tier rucks since the days of Cox and Nic Nat. Watching him in the VFL, the guy's way too good at VFL level, something our Beagles teams lacks.

However he's very injury prone with a back more dodgy than Barrass since he hardly played at all so for me, high risk, high reward type of pick if he can get his body right again.
 
I might cop it on here but if Harley decides he wants to go and we get an amazing haul for him it's going to work in our favour
Right now I'm see a (granted) young player who hasn't prepared over the off season as well as he shouldve and a guy who's much too easily distracted by the attention he gets from the opposition. It was evident all last season. He gives sprays out like he's earnt the right
If he commits and knuckles down all good, but if it goes the other way we may get way overs

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mattyc75 said:
I might cop it on here but if Harley decides he wants to go and we get an amazing haul for him it's going to work in our favour
Right now I'm see a (granted) young player who hasn't prepared over the off season as well as he shouldve and a guy who's much too easily distracted by the attention he gets from the opposition. It was evident all last season. He gives sprays out like he's earnt the right
If he commits and knuckles down all good, but if it goes the other way we may get way overs

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This. I think some tough conversations are going to need to be had with Harley.

It's really easy "We think you can be the best player in the competition, but if you want to stay here at West Coast x, y and z is what is required. If you don't think this is where you want to be, or you don't want to live by those standards. We can shake hands and get you home at the end of the year, for the right price in a trade".

The best thing that came out of yesterday is it might open some clear space for really open conversations and cut through all the smoke and mirrors and the "will he, won't he sign an extension, postpone contract negotiations etc".
 
WCE_phil said:
People expecting 1st - 3rd year mids to be able to compete with the best of the best are idiots. Rowell was drafted as a beast in 2019 and was only really able to dominate from last year onwards. Anderson was coming from further back but with a higher ceiling and again on the inside, last year.

2024 was their 5th year as number 1 and number 2 picks.

Guys like Daicos and Ashcroft senior have been mentored and really a part of the AFL system as much as possible for years before they get drafted. You can't expect guys coming from traditional pathways to have that impact, particularly when surrounded by absolute chaff.

Hall is a genuine inside mid yet at this stage is weaker body on body than Hewett or Reid. HTF does bringing him into the side do anything other than destroy his body and confidence.

Then you have guys who are athletic freaks like Ginbey but hey guess what, he's not a midfielder as i've said all along. Just doesn't read the play at stoppages well enough. Could he become a mid in a few years time, maybe. But guys like Yeo, Dawson or even Laird who start as great HB's and become high level inside mids are rare as rocking horse shit and guess what, it also takes years.

Kelly is a ****ing joke based off of this weeks game, Sheed has been ruined by injury and we have had nothing of quality come in, in between Sheed and Hewett via the draft midfield wise.

The club can't do a Hawthorn and attract lots of opposition players to help build their squad as most players just don't want to move to WA.

Two of the clubs 3 best players yesterday were Baker and Graham. People act as though the club has done nothing to try and improve. That was game 1 into a new gameplan against the strongest inside midfield in the league. Even if fully fit Yeo would have barely moved the needle.

I said a couple of years ago 2025 would likely be our worst year. We got lucky to win some of the later games we did last year and our 2 good wins early in the year we had a fully fit Yeo and Harley played out of the box in his first year before teams had put any work into slowing him down. He's now coming into the season underdone and the opposition has worked out how to get into his head.

The midfield is a work in progress and likely still at least 3 years away. It's why I'd let Oscar walk, draft Sharp and if he still wants to come trade in Warner. The club needs to continue to work to improve the midfield as quickly as possible but this isn't going to be some amazingly sharp turnaround.
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I must admit you said recently WC are 4 top mids short of a good team.
Yesterday put that on show!
There are 2 ways to fill these gaps and they are draft and trade.
Our young midfield has plenty of upside, re Harley and Hewett and anyone who commands a spot over the next 3 years already on our list including Gross, Allan, Hutch and co., but they are all young and need several years development.

Our 1st pick must be the type you keep mentioning, inside beast who can extract the ball at high quality.
Depending on whether we go all in and want another mid at this years draft with some of this years and some future draft capital, this will determine our list management this year, re trades.
Our trades must be Warner fixing 1 hole in the midfield and then throw some money at a best 22 midfielder to complement our list, they need to be those 22-25yo players who come in and shift the needle while also filling the hole that Yeo and Kelly will leave soon.
 

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PremiershipNo4 said:
Where the did I ever mention drafting a ruck from a state competition, I didn’t.
Jeez you’re a clown!
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“We need to draft a competent AFL ruckman ASAP.”

That would typically suggest drafting an 18 year old but I actually gave you the benefit of the doubt that maybe, just maybe you were talking about drafting a mature ruck from a state league in the mid season draft.

Obviously not which makes your comment even more ignorant than it was already by suggesting we just draft a AFL competent 18 year old ruck. You obviously have no grasp of player development and making it clear that there’s only one clown here.
 
kane249 said:
Simple answer is they are chasing flags, Brisbane are the Bulldogs are in the window while we aren't.

People will scoff about the latter, but the Bulldogs are capable of making a grand final out of nowhere, as they did in 2016 and 2021. Anything is possible while they still have the Bont and some of their older guys.
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Dogs are cooked. Won't play finals this year. Interestingly their much vaunted midfield got them to 2x GF and now their talls that are good- they have no midfield left.
 
Elite Pete said:
If you thought the Hawks trade a whole draft hand for TB was going to be a good idea at round 7 last year when they just got pantsed by nearly 80 points and were 1-6.

It’s a long season and probably even longer for Eagles fans but a lot still to play out.

But 100% the list team should be looking for
1- Pure midfielders
2- Ruck
3- a 2025 HBF, run and elite kick.

If that’s draft, trade or FA and make sure it’s the right price and not the right thing to do in a deal.
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Interestingly no team has had a jump like Hawthorn (2023 -2024) and then not made top 4 the following year.
Carlton have always been pretenders scraping into finals at best, which is why they were probably the better offer.
 
dinnaz said:
Interestingly no team has had a jump like Hawthorn (2023 -2024) and then not made top 4 the following year.
Carlton have always been pretenders scraping into finals at best, which is why they were probably the better offer.
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WC failed in 2012 after their 2011 jump? Unless I'm misreading your post
 
dajesmac said:
WC failed in 2012 after their 2011 jump? Unless I'm misreading your post
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Also melbourne failed in 2019 after the 2018 jump.
Carlton didn't make top4 after the 2023 jump
Bombers failed in 2018 after the 2017 jump
Freo failed in 2023 after the 2022 jump
Crows failed in 2024 after 2023 jump (they really should have played finals except were cheated out of it)

I'm not really sure Dinnaz knows what he is talking about himself.
 
xInfected_Virus said:
If the team's rucks are in dire straights then they could take a risk at the MSD by selecting Braydon Preuss. He wanted to play for a fourth club after getting delisted so that would suggest that he wants to continue at AFL level. I personally highly rate Preuss and he would easily be an upgrade on both Flynn and B.Williams in the ruck who can actually compete against top tier rucks and beat mid/lower tier rucks since the days of Cox and Nic Nat. Watching him in the VFL, the guy's way too good at VFL level, something our Beagles teams lacks.

However he's very injury prone with a back more dodgy than Barrass since he hardly played at all so for me, high risk, high reward type of pick if he can get his body right again.
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Great shout. I’d pull the trigger. When fit He’s a big angry and clumsy ruck which is exactly what we need
 
stallon said:
Baker Hewett Graham first mid rotation

Reid Kelly Hutch to rotate in

Duggan if fit to d50 to replace Baker, throw Allan and Maric into d50 too

It is what it is for this year
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That there is a midfield that will strike fear into the hearts of the Demons...


.... the Perth Demons that is
 
RanaNaved said:
There are always outliers in sports tbf.

Rowell then struggled for two seasons with some in the media questioning his game/ability and impact outside of tackling.
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He did a knee, then a shoulder. We retire players after that to a wing.

The media are ****wits, especially the commentators.
 

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