List Mgmt. Contracts. Trades. Draft. 2021 Edition

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2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Current contract status (Updated 21/10/24) : Total 38...

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[kane249]

And the Eagles haven't given players big contracts? Gov, Gaff, Nic, Yeo, Shuey, JK?

Swans also had Kennedy, Parker, Papley, Tippet etc

My point is they lost Hannebery, Mumford, Tom Mitchell because of the big deals to Franklin and Tippett

Swans would be foolish to lose Parker, he's durable and still playing great football unlike Hannebery when he left

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

We would sell the farm for Tim English. He is the exact player we want. To a tee. I would give up 1st, 2nd and Bailey Williams for him for sure but Doggies would probably need a KPP defender back for 1st and 2nd before theyd do it and would need to rate Williams the required amount too obviously

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Interesting how the Swans are dealing with aging stars.

Hannebery - injuries, Swans made a low offer he moved and Swans landed decent return and invested in youth at the draft.

Now Parker - 28 years old and offered $500k pa for 2 seasons, wants $700 for 4 years.

Looks like the Swans know when to cut ties when players ask for too much. Something the Eagles could learn from IMO.

Not really true. They cant afford to offer Parker any more then that quite clearly. They have buggered the cap and likely to lose 3/4 players this year. Hewett, Stephens, Parker would all be gone. 2 best 22 players out will hurt them a ton

You are also ignoring the good they lost too. Alir Alir, Tim Membrey, Toby Nankervis, Nic Newman, Darcy Cameron. The compensation for that lot was abysmal

 

[JDWCE]

I’m surprised at the lack of love for Tim English in this thread. He’s still only 24. Lots of room for improvement and he’s shown some excellent signs. Disagree with the posted above in selling the farm (ala kelly trade) to nab someone like him. But I still think he would be a very good get for us, especially with our track record with talls. We’d certainly be able to get the best out of him which I think is class

 

[WestCoast05]

Interesting how the Swans are dealing with aging stars.

Hannebery - injuries, Swans made a low offer he moved and Swans landed decent return and invested in youth at the draft.

Now Parker - 28 years old and offered $500k pa for 2 seasons, wants $700 for 4 years.

Looks like the Swans know when to cut ties when players ask for too much. Something the Eagles could learn from IMO.

It seems we've offered too much to certain players in their prime - Gaff, TK, Gov.
The older stars JK, Hurn, NicNat seem to be the ones who would put the club first so I don't think we need to be cutting ties.
These guys should rightfully retire with us.

I wouldn't mind Gaff going back to Vic.
Would take a late 2nd rounder any day, just to get him off the books.

 

[Keys]

Interesting how the Swans are dealing with aging stars.

Hannebery - injuries, Swans made a low offer he moved and Swans landed decent return and invested in youth at the draft.

Now Parker - 28 years old and offered $500k pa for 2 seasons, wants $700 for 4 years.

Looks like the Swans know when to cut ties when players ask for too much. Something the Eagles could learn from IMO.

Dan Hannebery was under contract until 2021 when he asked to be traded. The decent return also wasn’t that decent - Hannebery and pick 28 went to St Kilda for pick 39 and a future 2nd round pick. So a future 2nd with change going back for a 3xAA who was under contract

Luke Parker as others have said is being squeezed out due to salary cap pressure so the low offer is more a reflection of what they can afford rather than a true indication of what he’s worth

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I’m surprised at the lack of love for Tim English in this thread. He’s still only 24. Lots of room for improvement and he’s shown some excellent signs. Disagree with the posted above in selling the farm (ala kelly trade) to nab someone like him. But I still think he would be a very good get for us, especially with our track record with talls. We’d certainly be able to get the best out of him which I think is class

Issue is Doggies wrecked Tim English by playing him out of position. As a true FF he will be top 5 in that spot.

Tim English is Charlie Dixon without the injury proneness. If we pass him up we are idiots

 

[Into The Black]

A few trolls on this board who profess they are Eagles supporters, some apparently even have inside information. Full of shit imo.

 

[amazingjoshy]

I’m surprised at the lack of love for Tim English in this thread. He’s still only 24. Lots of room for improvement and he’s shown some excellent signs. Disagree with the posted above in selling the farm (ala kelly trade) to nab someone like him. But I still think he would be a very good get for us, especially with our track record with talls. We’d certainly be able to get the best out of him which I think is class

I think he'll a very good player personally. I just don't think we should be selling the farm for a ruckman. We need to accept that once Nic is gone, what he does can't be replaced. Williams has shown enough to me that I'm pretty confident he'll be a solid to good AFL ruckman.

Focus on young mids. The overwhelming evidence of the last 10+ years is you don't need a superstar ruckman to win the flag. Obviously aware Melbourne may change that trend this year, but if any of the remaining contenders win it it continues.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

A few trolls on this board who profess they are Eagles supporters, some apparently even have inside information. Full of sh*t imo.

Still waiting for my apologies about Jarrod Brander

Sack up guys

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

After all the picks we gave up for TK I'd be extra hesitant to give up multiple high picks for a player we don't necessarily need.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

I think he'll a very good player personally. I just don't think we should be selling the farm for a ruckman. We need to accept that once Nic is gone, what he does can't be replaced. Williams has shown enough to me that I'm pretty confident he'll be a solid to good AFL ruckman.

Focus on young mids. The overwhelming evidence of the last 10+ years is you don't need a superstar ruckman to win the flag. Obviously aware Melbourne may change that trend this year, but if any of the remaining contenders win it it continues.

Until we get a top 5 pick, the concept of drafting a superstar young mid is not happening.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

After all the picks we gave up for TK I'd be extra hesitant to give up multiple high picks for a player we don't necessarily need.

100% fact this. We consider a big FF as a high priorty position to fill in the long term and why not. Name me one team thats won a flag recently without a superstar FF/CHF duo? Maybe Doggies in 2016 but even in that 1 game, there FF had a blinder

The same people who want to trade Jack Darling consider him our CHF for the future. Its nonesense really because he isnt. Allens best spot is going to be CHF due to his size and mobility so question is, who is playing FF in our team 5 years from now?

 

[ziad]

We would sell the farm for Tim English. He is the exact player we want. To a tee. I would give up 1st, 2nd and Bailey Williams for him for sure but Doggies would probably need a KPP defender back for 1st and 2nd before theyd do it and would need to rate Williams the required amount too obviously

We, don't include me.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Until we get a top 5 pick, the concept of drafting a superstar young mid is not happening.

Miller pick 29
Steele pick 24
Merrett pick 26
Neale pick 58
Fyfe pick 20
Shuey pick 18
Yeo pick 30
Dangerfield pick 10

 

[kane249]

Until we get a top 5 pick, the concept of drafting a superstar young mid is not happening.

Chad Fletcher, Rookie Draft
Daniel Kerr, pick 18
Matt Priddis, Rookie Draft
Elliot Yeo, pick 30
Luke Shuey, pick 18
Dean Kemp, pick 117

It's not impossible to get a good one outside the top 5

 

[Pottering]

Do clubs still have boot studders on the payroll?

I thought the boots were all moulded.

All clubs employ a boot studder purely so that when they announce a root and branch review they can claim it will look at all aspects of the club including the board, coaches, players and support staff right down to the boot studder. In every review ever run the boot studder has never been identified as a reason for a teams poor performance.

 

[shooshka]

Issue is Doggies wrecked Tim English by playing him out of position. As a true FF he will be top 5 in that spot.

Tim English is Charlie Dixon without the injury proneness. If we pass him up we are idiots

Harry McKay
Tom Hawkins
Ben King
Joe Daniher
Max King
Tom Lynch, Jack Reiwoldt

Nope, English is not top 5 and unlikely to over-take the 3 younger players in that list (ever). Also haven't listed JUH and Logan McDonald.

He's a ruck anyway. His whole appeal is that he can be an extra mid like Brodie Grundy. Trading (a lot) for him to play him at FF would be Brander-esque levels of incompetence in development.

 

[squashface]

Don't forget Brayden Ainsworth

46

Brayden Ainsworth

Age

25

Ht

184cm

Wt

80kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

9.0

3star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

4.3

5star

CL

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.7

4star

K

9.0

4star

HB

4.7

4star

M

3.3

4star

T

4.3

5star

CL

1.7

4star

, pick 32

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Harry McKay
Tom Hawkins
Ben King
Joe Daniher
Max King
Tom Lynch, Jack Reiwoldt

Nope, English is not top 5 and unlikely to over-take the 3 younger players in that list (ever). Also haven't listed JUH and Logan McDonald.

He's a ruck anyway. His whole appeal is that he can be an extra mid like Brodie Grundy. Trading (a lot) for him to play him at FF would be Brander-esque levels of incompetence in development.

English would surpass a few of those. Ben King and Daniher for example I think he would surpass if left full time a FF.

He isnt a ruck. Even Beveridge is beginning to see this. He is Charlie Dixon really in a ton of ways.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Name me one team thats won a flag recently without a superstar FF/CHF duo?

Richmond before they got Lynch.

Melbourne are minor premiers and flag favourites with Fritsch and Pickett as their leading goalscorers.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Richmond before they got Lynch.

Melbourne are minor premiers and flag favourites with Fritsch and Pickett as their leading goalscorers.

Richmond before Lynch for sure now I think about it. Forgot the Ty Vickery days

I mean really thougj, We can really name 2 in the last 20 years at best and 1 that hasnt happened yet. Says alot Id have thought?

 

[JDWCE]

I think he'll a very good player personally. I just don't think we should be selling the farm for a ruckman. We need to accept that once Nic is gone, what he does can't be replaced. Williams has shown enough to me that I'm pretty confident he'll be a solid to good AFL ruckman.

Focus on young mids. The overwhelming evidence of the last 10+ years is you don't need a superstar ruckman to win the flag. Obviously aware Melbourne may change that trend this year, but if any of the remaining contenders win it it continues.

100%. Definitely not advocating selling the farm for him. He's a good player now but could be a very good player soon. Would love to get him but doubt he’s in our reach unless he gets sick of the dogs playing him out of position and requests a trade back home and chooses us. Unlikely as it is…

 

[Tugga27]

Interesting how the Swans are dealing with aging stars.

Hannebery - injuries, Swans made a low offer he moved and Swans landed decent return and invested in youth at the draft.

Now Parker - 28 years old and offered $500k pa for 2 seasons, wants $700 for 4 years.

Looks like the Swans know when to cut ties when players ask for too much. Something the Eagles could learn from IMO.

Hanneberry was offered a 5 year deal at $800 000 per year which has proven to be a terrible move by the Saints.
The Swans were never going to match that for a 27 year old with a history of injuries.
You can't really say that was clever by Sydney. It was stupid by he St's.

The Parker contract is still being negotiated so watch this space.

 

[squashface]

Richmond before Lynch for sure now I think about it. Forgot the Ty Vickery days

I mean really thougj, We can really name 2 in the last 20 years at best and 1 that hasnt happened yet. Says alot Id have thought?

Haha love it.

Name one
Here's one
Yeah but name another!