List Mgmt. Contracts, trades, draft - 2022 superstar edition

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The Contracts Thread

2024 List Changes : Out: Retired- Gaff Delisted - Jones, Trew(R), Baker(R), Witherden, Burgiel, Culley(R), Rotham, L Edwards Traded - Darling (NM) Barrass (Hawthorn) In: Trade/FA acquisitions - Graham (Richmond) Baker (Richmond) Owies (Carlton) Draft - Allan (Pick 16) Shanahan (Pick 30) Gross...

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[Campaigner for good]

We paid peanuts for those guys and they have provided depth for us while we transition the list. The alternative was to grab speculative draft selections in the late third or fourth rounds.

Agreed, my only gripe with those list additions is the fact that Langdon got three years. If it was a two year contract then I feel every trade was worth the outlay.

 

[Hook461123]

If I was North with the number 1 pick I'd be looking at doing what some here are saying and split the pick. They don't need warlord but do need a Gunslinger and a Cadman.
If they do that then we can pretty much wipe Warlord off with our number 2 pick

 

[shooshka]

Just as a general comment can we please be a bit smarter about trading in players from other clubs?

Langdon,Witherden,SPS. Fringe players at their previous clubs who become um, fringe players at our club. who'd have guessed?

I think we understood where their talent was at the time - and hoped they maybe improved a bit when joining us. Hasn't worked out for the first 2 (SPS still looks to be playing injured, so I'm giving him a little more time before completely writing him off).

Witherden was to be the Hurn replacement
Langdon came in at a time when we had a severe lack of small forwards
SPS high draft pick, who for various reasons hadn't developed to his anticipated level

Sure, they all look like misses now, but the theory (and the cost) behind getting them was relatively sound. Chasing a Jackson or similar for 2 x firsts plus $1m+ a season would be a much worse list management decision.

 

[Rowan18]

Agreed, my only gripe with those list additions is the fact that Langdon got three years. If it was a two year contract then I feel every trade was worth the outlay.

My guess is they are paying him a low amount each year, so they gave him three instead of two. His contract ends at the end of next year (to coincide with Gov's big $ contract ending).

 

[Chump Change]

My guess is they are paying him a low amount each year, so they gave him three instead of two. His contract ends at the end of next year (to coincide with Gov's big $ contract ending).

Lol, it's like when racehorses have a pony to keep them company. To afford Gov's contract they got a pony to take a $100k per year contract for the same duration so it balanced at $500k.

I love my little pony.

 

[bzparkes]

My guess is they are paying him a low amount each year, so they gave him three instead of two. His contract ends at the end of next year (to coincide with Gov's big $ contract ending).

They did the same thing with Petch when they gave him 3 years.

 

[Bender_]

Lol, it's like when racehorses have a pony to keep them company. To afford Gov's contract they got a pony to take a $100k per year contract for the same duration so it balanced at $500k.

I love my little pony.

Langdon is more of a companion goat.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

It feels like Langdon has been at the club more than two years. I struggle to believe last year was his first year with us.

 

[Wedgetailed Westerner]

On Drew Banfield

Drew Banfield

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184cm

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89kg

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3.2

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2.6

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0.8

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, is there any news on how Bailey and his other boys are progressing? Monocle or any one else with info care to fill us in?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Langdon came in at a time when we had a severe lack of small forwards

Anthony Treacy and Nic Reid

Good times.

Also drafted JJ during that period of "Oh shit Willie is suspended, WTF do we do?" so not all bad I guess (even if he doesn't play small forward for us)

 

[Rowan18]

It feels like Langdon has been at the club more than two years. I struggle to believe last year was his first year with us.

Last year feels like two seasons. In the first half we were competitive (with flaws) and on track to make finals. In the second half, we fell to pieces and continued that form through for the first half of this year.

 

[amazingjoshy]

I have a sneaky feeling that the upcoming 2 floggings from Freo and especially the Cats will see us slump to pick one.

We're probably an even money bet for pick 1 at this stage given the opponents.

North with the Cunnington boost and Adelaide and GC. Chance of sneaking a win but even if they don't, if we lose our 2 by a combined total of about 140 points more than North, the spoon (and pick 1) is ours.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Beat Freo and/or Geelong (as unlikely as that is) or bend over for pick one?

I want to win both games and strut into the draft with pick two having ****ed up Freo's top 4 chances, and finally ended the Geelong hoodoo.

 

[WCE_Talk]

Beat Freo and/or Geelong (as unlikely as that is) or bend over for pick one?

I want to win both games and strut into the draft with pick two having *ed up Freo's top 4 chances, and finally ended the Geelong hoodoo.

I’d be happy if we managed to win one of our remaining 2 games, but I’m also not sure I’d care if we ended up with pick 1, winning the Wooden Spoon might be annoying, but it’d give us an even stronger hand, which is good


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[Miguel Sanchez]

We're probably an even money bet for pick 1 at this stage given the opponents.

North with the Cunnington boost and Adelaide and GC. Chance of sneaking a win but even if they don't, if we lose our 2 by a combined total of about 140 points more than North, the spoon (and pick 1) is ours.

It’ll be very difficult for them to make up the percentage if they don’t jag a win in the last two games.

Bear in mind they’ve been outscored by an average of 9 goals a game since they beat us in round 2. And that’s including a couple of close losses and a win.

 

[FKASC]

I love my little pony.

I don’t want to know about your sex life

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

So a slightly different flavour to take to the draft

Headlines known to the public:

1. West Coast have fallen off the cliff - it came fast and will likely be at the bottom of the table for a couple of years
2. Lions have 2 father son picks this year and another in 2 years meaning they need points this year
3. Suns have a great load of good picks and high number of points this year with the prospect of losing Rankin and getting pick 4
4. Suns have been keen on Hollands to unite with brother and he is likely to be in the 12 to 18 range.

Brisbane currently have 2,182 points as they hold the following picks
14, 32, 43 and 68
Let me assume they get pick 19 compo for losing McStay and pick 38 for losing Robertson to Eagles
New Lions points equals 3,595
Ashcroft likely to go 1 and Fletcher say 20 meaning they would need 3,130 points. They are covered.

Suns as it stands have 4,101 points and if they lose Rankin and get 4, they have 6,135 points.
Losing Rankin they have picks 4, 8, 26, 31, 35, 44, 53, 67 and 71
They would dearly like to shift 3,000 plus points to 2023

West Coast to sell off their first round pick next year to the Suns. This will probably be in the top 4 for pick 4 this year so should bring in some 2,500 points. In return we get picks 4 (Rankin deal with the Crows), 14 (Suns do a trade with the Lions) and pick 44
In return we give over pick 25 and next years first

We then go to the draft with 2, 4, 14 20 and 44 plus Robertson.
2 = Wardlaw or Phillipou or Sheezel (classiest midfielder)
4 = Busslinger or Cadman (KPP)
14 = Szybkowski or MacKenzie or George or Hewett (inside or balanced midfielder)
20 = Barnett or Hustwaite or Hotton or Gibney (options)
44 = Jones or Broadbent or best available (options)

Yes I know we miss out 2023 but we get three 1st rounders this year and at 20 a very early second

Now if we hold pick 1, then we have an even stronger hand to work with Lions on to avoid the bid at 1 for Ashcroft.

Suns happy with banking very high points for 2023. They also can take Hollands at 8 and do something with some slightly later picks.

 

[amazingjoshy]

It’ll be very difficult for them to make up the percentage if they don’t jag a win in the last two games.

Bear in mind they’ve been outscored by an average of 9 goals a game since they beat us in round 2. And that’s including a couple of close losses and a win.

Depends what Geelong do to us at Kardinia. We lose by 60-100 points down there even when where supposedly a good team. Depends how hard they go

 

[eagles rule]

For example, would Essendon be keen enough on Sheezel to do pick 5 and their 2023 first for pick 2 and Port’s second rounder?

And then who’d be left at 5 (which would become 6) for us? Clark? Phillipou?

We could also on trade the Essendon future first + Wce 20 for a top 10 pick in the 2022 draft .


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[Bender_]

So a slightly different flavour to take to the draft

Headlines known to the public:

1. West Coast have fallen off the cliff - it came fast and will likely be at the bottom of the table for a couple of years
2. Lions have 2 father son picks this year and another in 2 years meaning they need points this year
3. Suns have a great load of good picks and high number of points this year with the prospect of losing Rankin and getting pick 4
4. Suns have been keen on Hollands to unite with brother and he is likely to be in the 12 to 18 range.

Brisbane currently have 2,182 points as they hold the following picks
14, 32, 43 and 68
Let me assume they get pick 19 compo for losing McStay and pick 38 for losing Robertson to Eagles
New Lions points equals 3,595
Ashcroft likely to go 1 and Fletcher say 20 meaning they would need 3,130 points. They are covered.

Suns as it stands have 4,101 points and if they lose Rankin and get 4, they have 6,135 points.
Losing Rankin they have picks 4, 8, 26, 31, 35, 44, 53, 67 and 71
They would dearly like to shift 3,000 plus points to 2023

West Coast to sell off their first round pick next year to the Suns. This will probably be in the top 4 for pick 4 this year so should bring in some 2,500 points. In return we get picks 4 (Rankin deal with the Crows), 14 (Suns do a trade with the Lions) and pick 44
In return we give over pick 25 and next years first

We then go to the draft with 2, 4, 14 20 and 44 plus Robertson.
2 = Wardlaw or Phillipou or Sheezel (classiest midfielder)
4 = Busslinger or Cadman (KPP)
14 = Szybkowski or MacKenzie or George or Hewett (inside or balanced midfielder)
20 = Barnett or Hustwaite or Hotton or Gibney (options)
44 = Jones or Broadbent or best available (options)

Yes I know we miss out 2023 but we get three 1st rounders this year and at 20 a very early second

Now if we hold pick 1, then we have an even stronger hand to work with Lions on to avoid the bid at 1 for Ashcroft.

Suns happy with banking very high points for 2023. They also can take Hollands at 8 and do something with some slightly later picks.

Imagine that. Would be an amazing draft if possible.

Are we too timid at the draft/trade table to do something so outlandish?

 

[Dark Sharks]

Winning spoons are forever.

That gets etched into club history. Never to be forgotten.


Get the **** outta here with that shit. As juicy as the pick boost is (more so getting the first pick of day 2), it's just not worth having another one of them in the trophy cabinet along with 2010.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Good to have you back Dark Sharks

 

[GoldenEagle]

So a slightly different flavour to take to the draft

Headlines known to the public:

1. West Coast have fallen off the cliff - it came fast and will likely be at the bottom of the table for a couple of years
2. Lions have 2 father son picks this year and another in 2 years meaning they need points this year
3. Suns have a great load of good picks and high number of points this year with the prospect of losing Rankin and getting pick 4
4. Suns have been keen on Hollands to unite with brother and he is likely to be in the 12 to 18 range.

Brisbane currently have 2,182 points as they hold the following picks
14, 32, 43 and 68
Let me assume they get pick 19 compo for losing McStay and pick 38 for losing Robertson to Eagles
New Lions points equals 3,595
Ashcroft likely to go 1 and Fletcher say 20 meaning they would need 3,130 points. They are covered.

Suns as it stands have 4,101 points and if they lose Rankin and get 4, they have 6,135 points.
Losing Rankin they have picks 4, 8, 26, 31, 35, 44, 53, 67 and 71
They would dearly like to shift 3,000 plus points to 2023

West Coast to sell off their first round pick next year to the Suns. This will probably be in the top 4 for pick 4 this year so should bring in some 2,500 points. In return we get picks 4 (Rankin deal with the Crows), 14 (Suns do a trade with the Lions) and pick 44
In return we give over pick 25 and next years first

We then go to the draft with 2, 4, 14 20 and 44 plus Robertson.
2 = Wardlaw or Phillipou or Sheezel (classiest midfielder)
4 = Busslinger or Cadman (KPP)
14 = Szybkowski or MacKenzie or George or Hewett (inside or balanced midfielder)
20 = Barnett or Hustwaite or Hotton or Gibney (options)
44 = Jones or Broadbent or best available (options)

Yes I know we miss out 2023 but we get three 1st rounders this year and at 20 a very early second

Now if we hold pick 1, then we have an even stronger hand to work with Lions on to avoid the bid at 1 for Ashcroft.

Suns happy with banking very high points for 2023. They also can take Hollands at 8 and do something with some slightly later picks.

Too risky trading next years 1st rounder. Imagine winning the spoon in 2023 and missing out on the best player in the country for the 5th best player in 2022

 

[amazingjoshy]

Imagine that. Would be an amazing draft if possible.

Are we too timid at the draft/trade table to do something so outlandish?

AFL trade period 2018: Gold Coast’s 2017 pick swap with West Coast looks even worse now

The trade that bet on West Coast failing and lost massively

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This was considered outlandish at the time...remember the 2018 spoon predictions?

 

[Obeanie1]

Just as a general comment can we please be a bit smarter about trading in players from other clubs?

Langdon,Witherden,SPS. Fringe players at their previous clubs who become um, fringe players at our club. who'd have guessed?

You dont like how Freo has built depth?