Mega Thread Coronavirus & the AFL - Stage 4 Restrictions in Place in Vic - Part 3

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Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - season postponed. Part 2 * CONTINUED ABUSE WILL NOT BE TOLERATED *

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Mega Thread - Coronavirus & the AFL - Stage 4 Restrictions in Place in Vic - Part 4

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[Moonrat]

Hope you VICS are all in bed!

 

[1990crow]

Hope you VICS are all in bed!

One in four are currently out partying

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Perth now odds on for the grand final.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Will Clive Palmer win in the High Court re hard border border issue and section 92 of the constitution?

In my opinion, Yes.

The High Court has accepted that states can limit the free intercourse between states but only if they are reasonable and imposed for a legitimate end, such as protecting the public from a dangerous disease.

So is the limitation both legitimate and reasonable?

Legitimate? Hell yes

Resonable? Almost certainly not.

'Less than one per cent': WA's Chief Health Officer under pressure to justify border closure during Palmer court fight

WA’s Chief Health Officer has come under pressure to explain why the state refuses to open its border to the five other Australian jurisdictions that have eliminated community spread of coronavirus.

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So if WA does not make the border closure more balanced, than I consider they will be rolled in the High Court.

Does this mean they are powerless? No

Let Clive in, let him get 10 metres in & put him in quarantine. In a desert camp paid for from his pocket for 2 weeks plus everytime he enters the state. More than one way to skin this fat cat.

Clive Palmer should be where he belongs... in jail.

 

[JackOutback]

Not a question of if it was reasonable and I’m not clear on what the AFL were wrong about.

Do teams have to quarantine each time they come into WA?

The AFL were wrong to think that McGowan was being unreasonable when it’s become perfectly obvious that his response was reasonable. Even now there’s some in the AFL industry arguing against Perth hosting the grand final on the basis that ‘WA has done nothing for the AFL’. This is despite us hosting four Victorian teams at present, two NSW teams to come, potential for more and being the only state contributing significant coin into their coffers. The AFL should have accepted the conditions proposed by WA and SA, set up hubs, and things would have been much smoother than the last couple of weeks. Instead, they told the states to sod off, they’d host it in Victoria, what could possibly go wrong?

 

[Ross]

It'd be nice if some of the posters in this thread outside of Victoria were a little less insular and realised that this virus has overran and decimated pretty much the entire world. Even countries like Hong Kong and Vietnam that appeared to have things completely under control with no community transmission for months are now seeing cases spike. If it was simple to beat this virus there'd be no global pandemic. Consider yourselves very fortunate that your states are doing this well, enjoy the freedoms you currently have and just hope that the odd rogue case who escapes from quarantine or fraudulently bypasses the border isn't a contagious super-spreader that rapidly infects the community and shuts you down again.

 

[Moonrat]

It'd be nice if some of the posters in this thread outside of Victoria were a little less insular and realised that this virus has overran and decimated pretty much the entire world. Even countries like Hong Kong and Vietnam that appeared to have things completely under control with no community transmission for months are now seeing cases spike. If it was simple to beat this virus there'd be no global pandemic. Consider yourselves very fortunate that your states are doing this well, enjoy the freedoms you currently have and just hope that the odd rogue case who escapes from quarantine or fraudulently bypasses the border isn't a contagious super-spreader that rapidly infects the community and shuts you down again.

Shouldn't you be in bed?

 

[Xtreme]

Because in WA you could have a day/twilight GF and have it be a night game on the East Coast for TV ratings + have the biggest crowd.

Bonus points if its a WCE vs GWS grand final. The two best AFL theme songs squaring off!!

 

[Bring-Back-Powell]

I reckon there might have been a bit of a Rona spread at Optus Stadium tonight.

Bugger all social distancing.

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

I reckon there might have been a bit of a Rona spread at Optus Stadium tonight.

Bugger all social distancing.

Perth is fine. If they have those crowds at AO on the other hand...

 

[Moonrat]

I reckon there might have been a bit of a Rona spread at Optus Stadium tonight.

Bugger all social distancing.

Can't spread a virus that isn't there! There will be no problems.

 

[Ross]

Sorry I couldn't resist. I'm just trolling.

I appreciate what you said and I wish you all luck getting on top of the situation there.

Haha, I set my location and my "other teams" (I mean, Cameron White in 2020 FFS?) back in 2004 when I signed up and I've never bothered to change them. I haven't lived in Melbourne for over a decade so I can still aimlessly walk around outside at night, I'm now just not allowed to go inside anywhere.

 

[Moonrat]

Haha, I set my location and my "other teams" (I mean, Cameron White in 2020 FFS?) back in 2004 when I signed up and I've never bothered to change them. I haven't lived in Melbourne for over a decade so I can still aimlessly walk around outside at night, I'm now just not allowed to go inside anywhere.

I do love your avatar!

CIA got you pushn' too many pencils????

Best movie ever!

 

[kranky al]

If the gf was being held at kardinia id say geelong has one hand on the cup.

i dont think its an unreasonable assertion.

 

[kranky al]

It'd be nice if some of the posters in this thread outside of Victoria were a little less insular and realised that this virus has overran and decimated pretty much the entire world. Even countries like Hong Kong and Vietnam that appeared to have things completely under control with no community transmission for months are now seeing cases spike. If it was simple to beat this virus there'd be no global pandemic. Consider yourselves very fortunate that your states are doing this well, enjoy the freedoms you currently have and just hope that the odd rogue case who escapes from quarantine or fraudulently bypasses the border isn't a contagious super-spreader that rapidly infects the community and shuts you down again.

We are acutely aware of this.

thats why mcgowans border policy has 95% approval - you can bet that the hotel security arrangements are being constantly reviewed and we count ourselves lucky that the mining companies in wa would have us stay in quarantine for 10 years if thats what it takes. They are screaming in mcgowans ears to keep everything closed.

The money in Vic, nsw and qld are demanding that everything be open....

 

[Rasha]

Queensland won't have an outbreak, they've shown they are able to handle the pandemic far better than the Victoria and NSW governments.

 

[kranky al]

Queensland won't have an outbreak, they've shown they are able to handle the pandemic far better than the Victoria and NSW governments.

How dya reckon the nsw government went wrong so covid got back in?

how do you think qld is doing things differently?

 

[Rasha]

How dya reckon the nsw government went wrong so covid got back in?

how do you think qld is doing things differently?

They've eliminated community transmission for starters.

Queensland government have already shown they've been able to handle the pandemic far better than both NSW and Victoria governments.

 

[mightymouse75]

They've eliminated community transmission for starters.
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Queensland government have already shown they've been able to handle the pandemic far better than both NSW and Victoria governments.

Thats a weird number, so vic knows where the last 2000 cases came from ? I call bs

 

[mightymouse75]

Mask up vic.
Wear gloves.
Just pretend you already might have the virus & you don't want to hurt anybody with it.
Good luck, stay safe, think of others & it will be all over before we know it.

 

[GCS in 11]

How dya reckon the nsw government went wrong so covid got back in?

how do you think qld is doing things differently?

NSW never achieved elimination with Covid, they always had a handful of local cases a week even at its lowest point. That is the key difference here. Those cases in the community lead to undetected transmissions which can cause outbreaks.

QLD on the other hand achieved elimination, for more than 2 months. We can say with 99.9% certainty we did not have any undetected transmission in that time. In fact, we are the first jurisdiction in the world to have had 2 Covid free months, and then have new local cases re-appear.

That’s why we have a reasonably good chance of containing this breach, it’s currently the only source in the community we need to trace, and we can do so extremely effectively.

 

[Skull Face]

The AFL were wrong to think that McGowan was being unreasonable when it’s become perfectly obvious that his response was reasonable. Even now there’s some in the AFL industry arguing against Perth hosting the grand final on the basis that ‘WA has done nothing for the AFL’. This is despite us hosting four Victorian teams at present, two NSW teams to come, potential for more and being the only state contributing significant coin into their coffers. The AFL should have accepted the conditions proposed by WA and SA, set up hubs, and things would have been much smoother than the last couple of weeks. Instead, they told the states to sod off, they’d host it in Victoria, what could possibly go wrong?

Look at me we are so superior because a virus didn't spread here as much as it did in Victoria, **** Victoria

 

[HTT]

I reckon there might have been a bit of a Rona spread at Optus Stadium tonight.

Bugger all social distancing.

There is evidently no virus in WA
If they had one case, with their level of restrictions for the last few weeks, they would be in a worse situation than Victoria. Of course, they aren't.

Honestly not sure why they don't go to full capacity.

 

[HTT]

Mask up vic.
Wear gloves.
Just pretend you already might have the virus & you don't want to hurt anybody with it.
Good luck, stay safe, think of others & it will be all over before we know it.

That's the key. At the end of the day everyone has to ask themselves: if I had the virus today, would I have spread it to anyone else? The more often that answer is no, the better off we're going to be.

 

[the harry]

There is evidently no virus in WA
If they had one case, with their level of restrictions for the last few weeks, they would be in a worse situation than Victoria. Of course, they aren't.

Honestly not sure why they don't go to full capacity.

The demographics of Eagles members has meant we actually haven't been selling out yet, they've been very cautious about going. The upside of full capacity probably isn't that much at this point in time and the optics of still being cautious may have impacted community behaviour.

Obviously Freo may be different though.