-
LIVE: Sydney v Port Adelaide - 7:40 / 7:10 Fri
Squiggle tips Swans at 57% chance -- What's your tip? -- Teams on Thurs »
-
LIVE: Geelong v Brisbane Lions - 7:30PM Sat
Squiggle tips Cats at 54% chance -- What's your tip? -- Teams on Thurs »
-
Weekly Prize - Join Any Time - Tip Prelim Finals
The Golden Ticket - MCG and Marvel Medallion Club tickets and Corporate Box tickets at the Gabba, MCG and Marvel.
Round SF Winner: And_ROOS
-
AFLW 2024 - Round 4 - Chat, game threads, injury lists, team lineups and more.
Craig Foster, again....
- Thread starter Dojo
- Start date
- Tagged users None
- Status
sherb
Hall of Famer
On the vast majority of occasions it does however.You have to concede there is a fundamental flaw in a game where the aim is to score goals, but scoring the most goals doesn't neccessarily win you the match.
For instance, only one VFL/AFL grand final has been won by a side scoring less goals than their opposition.
So even if you consider it to be a flaw, it is only a minor one.
SJ
Premium Platinum
8.5% of games in the A-League this year.
I doubt the number of footy games won by the team scoring less goals but more points overall is anything near 8.5% per season.
But those games had goals kicked in them.
handy point
is handy
Pure gold. I think the soccer apologist went down clutching his toenail after that tremendous shirtfront.
Just from a quick count, there was ONE game last year (out of 186) where a team managed to win with less goals than the opposition. The draws (I think there were 3) had both teams with a differing amount of goals.
There were a handful of games where the losing team had more scoring shots and probably should have won if they kicked straighter. This actually shows to some extent that our scoring system does reward goals, and that you still get punished on the scoreboard for missing.
And the thing that needs to be understood about soccer fans is that we really don't give a sh*t. Yeah, we're not goal junkies. Doesn't matter. We're happy to wait for our scores to come.
Cold comfort to St Kilda fans who watched their team score the most goals in the Grand Final last year only to see the flag go to Collingwood.
Fairly sure most of them knew the rules of the game.
Dimenhydrinate
Club Legend
- Jun 18, 2009
- 1,751
- 4
Actually, one point goes begging as a punishment for the draw. Although I note that AFL divides the points evenly in their draws.
So its similar to footy where 5 points go begging for not hitting the middle of the scoring zone.
Soccer used to split the points for a draw too, what's your point?
Dimenhydrinate
Club Legend
- Jun 18, 2009
- 1,751
- 4
Well, really, at this point, I'm humouring you, because you can't compare what happens on the field to the external administration rules.
114 years ago our forefathers had the foresight to work out that the addition of behinds, the minor score, would reduce the incidence of draws - and it has worked a treat ever since.
The VFL/AFL grand final has been drawn 3 times in 114 years.
Fortunately, where draws have occurred, rare as they are, we've had the luxury of being able to replay the grand final, and decide the premier on the basis of the winner winning from excelling on the field of play, actually playing the game in question.
On the other hand, soccer has had two drawn world cups in the last 16 years alone, and has had to determine the world champion on the basis of a funny little side activity AFTER the actual game has finished. Bizzarro.
A bit like not running the 100m footrace to decide the fastest person, but deciding to play a game of backgammon to determine it instead.
The VFL/AFL grand final has been drawn 3 times in 114 years.
Fortunately, where draws have occurred, rare as they are, we've had the luxury of being able to replay the grand final, and decide the premier on the basis of the winner winning from excelling on the field of play, actually playing the game in question.
On the other hand, soccer has had two drawn world cups in the last 16 years alone, and has had to determine the world champion on the basis of a funny little side activity AFTER the actual game has finished. Bizzarro.
A bit like not running the 100m footrace to decide the fastest person, but deciding to play a game of backgammon to determine it instead.
Hang on, you were the one making a song & dance about 'consolation points' for 'failure'.
Now that its been pointed out to you that soccer awards them too, its all oh well we can't compare what happens on the field to the external administration rules.
What a load of twaddle.
Dimenhydrinate
Club Legend
- Jun 18, 2009
- 1,751
- 4
So you think it's entire apt to compare on field rules to off field administration?
- Banned
- #868
Australian soccer legend, Johhny Warren also used the word (as the title of his authorised biography, no less..)
He must be racist, too..
Johnnny Warren wasn't using wog as a derogatroy term. He was using it to showcase and expose the ignorance and racism of those that DO use the term in the normal derogatory manner.
I'm comparing the awarding of points during a game with the awarding of points based on the result of the game.
Pretty similar.
Dimenhydrinate
Club Legend
- Jun 18, 2009
- 1,751
- 4
It's really not.
- Banned
- #871
So... because I used a term considered offensive by certain folks, you thought you'd just come straight out and attack me personally by using an offensive word of your own. That makes sense.
The word, "idiot" was a medical term from an outdated classification system, used to describe people of varying degrees of mental ******ation. An idiot was a person deemed to have the mental age of a three year old and IQ of less than 25.
As far as I'm aware, it against the house rules to denigrate other posters and use offensive words such "moron", "imbecile" and "idiot".
Hypocrite.
Dimenhydrinate
Club Legend
- Jun 18, 2009
- 1,751
- 4
Fixed.
Yes it is.
Especially so given that your initial argument was a great big song & dance about 'consolation points for failure'.
Dimenhydrinate
Club Legend
- Jun 18, 2009
- 1,751
- 4
One is distributing in-game score points based on the actions of the players during the game, with AFL being the only code where there is a type of score that is unwanted and given as a consolation for failing to acquire the desired score.
The other is distributing administrative points to club based on the results of their games. No points that are issued are unwanted, all are valuable.
- Banned
- #875
Yes, that's true. I'm well aware of that. I'm not an IDIOT.
Why can Johnny use a word in an ironic sense, but I'm not allowed to?
I've never called anyone a wog in my entire life, but I reserve the right to (occasionally) use the Australian colloquial expression, "Wogball" because it aptly describes a game which is mostly enjoyed here in Oz by people of ethnic persuasion. It's a generalisation, but mostly true.
"Wogball" isn't just a derogarory term against people's ethnicity, but describes a sitaution where some people are unable to assimilate in their new, adopted country and let go of their old customs.
- Status
