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I know it's been said many times before, but the Quill is genuinely a fool. Some of his comments in this week's column demonstrate that he does all but the absolute minimum of research. He just throws names around to make it seem like he knows what he's on about. This week he's asking us to email him names so he can throw them in to the D1 team of the year!

And to suggest that the Two Blues will have all but given up on 2006 and instead blood youngsters tomorrow against St Leos is absolutely ridiculous!
 

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Tips this week:
Rupo over OG (OG had their glory last week)
BT over Carey (carey to many injuries as per last week)
Prahan over Leos ( Ballard big loss)
Mentone over Yarra Valley ( to good in the middle)
Therry over Banyule ( far to good)
 
In what sense Midas? Having seen both play, i think Battle would in no way be outmatched. Saw him make a mess of Vickers the first time the two sides met. Rate Williams very highly.. think it would eb a good matchup.Think it is more likely Battle would end up on Chivers or Wise however with one of OC bigs taking Williams. Maybe Jessup or Parker
 
Gents,

Geeves just can't wait till rd 18. He is getting in early with his Team of the Year.

A Butlers Team - D1 2006

B: Battle (OC) Hare (BT) Trumbell (OC)
HB: D.Collins (Rupo) Munro (OGS) Burridge (BT)
C: A.Drew (YV) Chivers (BT) Crotty (TP)
HF: Casboult (OGS) Basile (OM) Keem (YV)
F: O'Brien (OGS) Parton (OC) Skicko (Ban)
R: Ballard (ESL) S. Collins (OC) Wise (BT)
Int: Pietryk (BT) Bayles (OGS) Monzell (Rupo) J.Bannister (TP)

Co Captains - Parton, Chivers
Coach - Premiership Coach
Runner/Butler - Geeves
 
DG-Man said:
Gents,

Geeves just can't wait till rd 18. He is getting in early with his Team of the Year.

A Butlers Team - D1 2006

B: Battle (OC) Hare (BT) Malpas (Og)
HB: D.Collins (Rupo) Walford (Pr) Burridge (BT)
C: Chivers (BT) West (Ru) Bayles OG
HF: Casboult (OGS) Keem (YV)Matthews (BT)
F: O'Brien (OGS) Parton (OC) J Bannister (TP)
R: Basell (OC) S. Collins (OC) A Drew (YV)
Int: Basile (OM) R Drew (YV) Monzell (Rupo)Unkles (OC)

Co Captains - Parton, Chivers
Coach - Premiership Coach
Runner/Butler - Geeves

few changes . biggest and possibly most controversial is naming both OC ruckman.. realise most pople could find a way to play one or another, but in the 3.5 games i have seen of them. game 1 Basell destroyed Radywonik game 2 Basell made mess of Legoe game 3 Unkles pulverised Ballard 1/2 game both went to town on BT in losing game.. from reports i had on weekend did same to OGS in losing team. So think outside the square. If dominant ruck is a combination, pick them both.
no spot for Trumble.. impressed me last year but thought he was average when i saw him this year. Yeo was substandard - sorry , but can only call what is see - dont think he is substandard - just on that day.
 
I'm sure thier will be. One man (butler) 's view. Plenty of unlucky's. OC, BT and OGS have plenty more solid players than just 4 or so. Very even sides. The hyphen from TP may be a little unlucky. McCarthy, Yoe, White....could name half a dozen. Hopefully this gets a few people presenting thier own, so we can have some solid discussions.
Cheers - DG
 
Archangel17 said:
few changes

Oh, just noticed you actually did the changes. Can't have the Wal over Trumbell or Munro. West is punished for leaving. If i was going to have an OC ruckman i would have had Unkles starting. I think he is thier number 1. Was a toss up between he and Ballard. Decided not to have a ruckmen on the bench as i had a few talls in the side that could rotate.
Glad to see you didn't change runner!
 
Archangel17 said:
few changes . biggest and possibly most controversial is naming both OC ruckman.. realise most pople could find a way to play one or another, but in the 3.5 games i have seen of them. game 1 Basell destroyed Radywonik game 2 Basell made mess of Legoe game 3 Unkles pulverised Ballard 1/2 game both went to town on BT in losing game.. from reports i had on weekend did same to OGS in losing team. So think outside the square. If dominant ruck is a combination, pick them both.
Archangel17 said:
no spot for Trumble.. impressed me last year but thought he was average when i saw him this year. Yeo was substandard - sorry , but can only call what is see - dont think he is substandard - just on that day.

Hi again AA17,
I like your reasoning. The OC certainly have a fearsome tandem act. I think your reasoning is ok. Again, you are speaking from first hand experience having witnessed some of their work.
Only 5 differences in our sides.
You have Bassell, Unkles, Matthews, West and Malpas.
While i have Trumbell, Pietryk, Munro, Crotty and Skicko.
(I did not have Yoe in my side!!!)

I have seen plenty of Munro and Trumbell and believe these guys to be great defenders. Very worthy of TOTY selection. I am a big fan of Pietryk. He may be a little unknown to the average supporter, however i have seen him twice and he was very unlucky not to be starting on the field. Crotty has missed 5 games i think, however he is a fine player. And finally Skicko has the talent to be playing a much higher grade of football. Watch him with a bullet!
Looking forward to seeing some other contributions to team of the year. The Quill will have no troubles after reading all our "expert comments"

Re today. Have decided to go to Bulleen for the local derby. Geeves will be dropping me off outside the Marcellin gates to avoid the "Big Footy" rush on his "stretch" We are trying to keep a low key profile. Do not want anyone from BT or OC thinking DG is down there taking notes. Might be wise for coaching staff to check that their is nobody suspicious loitering around the Graeme Yallop Scoreboard!
Will we see Chivers and Parton out there today?? My mail is that BOTH WILL BE PLAYING! Partons broken hand was a little exaggerated, whilst the Chiv will not miss this make or break game. Big Tom Waters will be lining up after being released from Port Melbourne and will have a great duel with the OC "Twin Towers". Waters is an excelent player, and will be able to hold his own against the OC pair. Should be a cracking game. Availabilty of some of both teams missing players like the Bain Brothers and Bull and Ratcliffe may decide the winner today. I rate both team evenly, so who fields thier strongest side may come up victorious.

At Sunbury, we will also have a cracker of a game. If petrol prices weren't waht they are, Geeves may have been inclined to head down that way. (Damage to car was also a concern. Geeves has had trouble there in the past) A must win game for both sides ensures i lean towards the Oggers. OGS we great last week and now with a position in the top 2 looking 50/50, they just cannot afford to drop this one. Rupo have it all to play for aswell. However on paper, on form and on recent history. I think the hoops will be singing again come 5 o'clock. Could be another large night for Geeves at the Toorak Lion!

Cheers - DG
 
What great win by Rupo. DG Man you have written us off for the past 5 weeks, so i'll say 2 things. We have got the monkey off our backs as far as OG goes. And 2nd watch out if we make it. We were relentless today. Og were 26pts up 5mins in the last qrt and we ran over them like they weren't there. This win is more satisfying than the OC win. We were awesome. We had 10 players under 20.
Toohas, good luck to your side- My BAC is .0765 at the moment. (ithought you might enjoy that).

West, has to be in team of the year, he has never left Rupo, had one week with a corky and was pivotal in our great victory today. He is Rupo through and through, could play at a much higher level but is a part of our fabric.

About 1/2 a dozen players came for a drink which was **** poor. And the unpiring tried to make sure OG won. There you go, stuff it.
 

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Kingbrown,

Are you saying that only 1/2 dozen OGs players hung around after game for a drink? They had only one or two hang around when they were beaten by Two Blues a few weeks ago. It's **** poor really.

What about the results though this weekend! Massive victory by Rupo, and win by Two Blues which makes the relegation battle this week extremely interesting (That's despite the Quill suggesting this week that the relegation question was all but answered!)
 
kingbrown said:
What great win by Rupo. DG Man you have written us off for the past 5 weeks, so i'll say 2 things. We have got the monkey off our backs as far as OG goes. And 2nd watch out if we make it. We were relentless today. Og were 26pts up 5mins in the last qrt and we ran over them like they weren't there. This win is more satisfying than the OC win. We were awesome. We had 10 players under 20.
Toohas, good luck to your side- My BAC is .0765 at the moment. (ithought you might enjoy that).

West, has to be in team of the year, he has never left Rupo, had one week with a corky and was pivotal in our great victory today. He is Rupo through and through, could play at a much higher level but is a part of our fabric.

About 1/2 a dozen players came for a drink which was **** poor. And the unpiring tried to make sure OG won. There you go, stuff it.


Good work KB. DG-Man tilts his top hat to the better side on the day. Shocked by the result after the OGGERS great win over OC the week prior.
Glad you had a ripping day!!
Re West, yes he certainly is a great player. DG was fooled by some earlier post suggesting he had gone to Eltham for coin. Did not realise it was a joke. West in....Bayles out! Sorry Big Boy, but the roadrunner has just "beep beeped" you.
 
DG-Man crashes with 1/5 in tipping comp to fall out of contention! Disaster!! Tipping ladder to come later. DG to distressed to update it yet!

What a big weekend of footy. We are left with so many connotations and permutations. This will be a big post. I have just rung the bell for Geeves to organise some tea. I suggest you all make yourself a cup before embarking on this DG rant.

DG headed north to Bulleen for the local derby. A great game to watch. Firstly i will let you all know that Geeves did not drop me off at the gates, but instead entered the Carey Ring Road Plaza, as he was keen to have a little spy at the Canteen staff and ensure that procedures were adequate in relation to food prep and serving. I volunteered to be a taste tester, and indulged in a pie and a hotdog. Top quality stuff Carey. Pies were hot. Grated cheese, mustards, sauces were all available for my hotdog. 9/10. Geeves left a happy man.

To the game. BT started very strongly, dominating possession and racing to a 2-3 goal lead at quarter time. Onballers were everywhere. Big Waters was controlling the rucks, Wise, Chivers and co were winning plenty of ball. If not for impressive work by OC backs (Battle and Jessop) the lead could have been more. After quarter time, OC hit thier straps and raced to a 2-3 goal lead at half time. Carey were starting to look a little quick for BT. Onballer (Collins, Number 3, Number 4, Ruck combo) started to dominate. Young kid Tiras was winning plenty of the ball, big targets Bull and Parton looked dangerous, whilst backman continued to hold sway over Matthews and Williams. 3rd Quarter was all Carey. They ran amok and opened up a 11-12 goal lead. Only a 7 goal to 3 last term saved BT from complete embarrasement.
For BT, Pietryk, Hare, Waters and Chivers were OK. For OC - Great team effort!
Disappointing day for BT. They came needing to win to ensure a top 2 finish (luckily for them, their destiny is still in their own hands thanks to Rupo) and were boasting a full strength team. Both Bains played. Waters played, Smith played, plus all regular guns like Chiv, Matthews, Williams, Wise and co. Old Carey had a few back from the ones missing against OGS. Parton and Bull the obvious ones. BT showed enough early (and late) to suggest they can turn the tables come finals, however OC will finally take into September the confidence that they have the side to beat BT in the big ones.
DG can only assume that Rupo were just too committed and fast for an OGS team that will be reeling at this loss. OC did OGS the favour they needed and then perhaps blew a golden opportunity to cement second spot.
Great win by YV away at OM's. Never an easy contest out there. YV just keep winning (much to Rupo's disgust!)
Therry continue recent good form, ensuring Banyule play D2 next year. Whilst the Two Blues are alive and kicking, with a great chance of staying in D1 this year. Leos are suddenly back in strife!

I will start with ressies. OGS to play OC in the second semi....but just who will play the OM's in the first! It looks like it will either be Rupo or Therry. If Rupo beat BT (50/50 game in my opinion) they will finish 4th. If BT beat Rupo, Therry will finish fourth as long as they defeat YV. This would seem likely as YV have struggled in ressies all year. So unlike their senior team, Rupo know exactly where they stand. Win the game, and they finish 4th and will play finals in ressies this year!

In the seniors, there are just so many possibilties. One thing is for sure and that is that the OC will finish first. If BT defeat Rupo, they will finish second. If Rupo defeat BT and OGS can defeat Leos at Como...OGS will finish second.

DG feels very sorry for Rupo and YV. Only 1 of these sides will play finals this year, yet both are deserving and could finish 12-6 and miss out. YV's 12 goal advantage in % means that they really only need to win to finish 4th. However, Therry have been in great form and look a big chance to spoil Toohas's day! Rupo must win, and hope that Therry helps them out. BT have been in terrible form lately. (1/3 last 4 games) The Rupo vs BT clash will be a ripper. DG may just have to tip Rupo to keep KingBrown off my back!:)

At the bottom of the table, the relegation battle has just heated up. The Bears are gone, however it is a two horse race between Leos and Prahran to see who can avoid the drop with them. Assuming OGS defeat Leos (DG thinks this will occur), Prahran must defeat OM's at Toorak Park to stay in D1. I think they will do this, so i am afraid it may be Kibes boys joining the Bears in D2.

The DG market

OC - $2.40
BT - $3.90
OGS - $4.20
YV - $25.00
Rupo - $30.00

What a weekend of footy. Well done to OC, Rupo and YV. Back to the drawing board for BT and OGS. What a great comp we have here!! I may have a quiet toast to myself in personal recognition of this......Geeves...a little bubbly please!.......pop!

DG
 
MC Extra Dollop said:
All of the teams still in the running for finals can finish in the top two...
Only Mathematically possible MC not realistically.. think about it.

For Ruperstwood to finish top 2 they would have to beat Bulleen at Bulleen by 30 odd goals.

Yarra would have to beat Therry by 15 and hope Rupo beat BT by 15.

Sorry it is a race in three for top two.

Saw a very interesting game down at OM.. though Yarra were very good and very big. OMS showed promise again , however have been so for the past couple of seasons. They need to become more consistent, and find a couple of hard nuts- Maybe from local comps.
Expect a tough match next week between Yarra and Therry.

DG from your description sounds like Waters dominated first ,then OC ruckman took over.Is this right? Who was more influential of the two. I rate Waters very highly, so think this is another filip for the OC twin towers. Also how did Barton go down back.Did he take Chivers or Matthews or somoene else? Who did Battle take?

Kingbrown- is it possible to get a less alcohol fueled review of the game? though i did enjoy the one you have already posted.
 
No, no, no, Archangel, you're wrong.

If Rupertswood win by about 11-13 goals (depending on the total score) that should put their percentage around the same mark as the Bullants. With OG and Yarra losing that would catapault Rupo into second.
* Say Rupertswood win by 75 points (unlikely but stranger things have happened. BT haven't exactly set the world on fire in August) Assume the score is 150-75 (humor me).

RUPERTSWOOD 1759 for/1620 against 108.58%
BULLEEN-TEMP 1757 for/1619 against 108.52%

If Rupertswood win by about five goals, Yarra can jump over B-T with a win of about 65+ and a Geelong loss. This scenario would see Geelong miss out.
*Say Rupertswood win 100-70 and Yarra win 135-70
YARRA VALLEY 1651 for/1477 against 111.78%
BULLEEN-TEMPLESTOWE 1752 for/1569 against 111.66%

Geelong just have to win and Bulleen to lose for the OGs to finish second. If Rupo smash Bulleen as in the first scenario and Yarra and Geelong also win, the Bullants could drop to fifth. Unlikely, but hey, it's not as impossible as you wrote.
 
MC Extra Dollop said:
No, no, no, Archangel, you're wrong.

If Rupertswood win by about 11-13 goals (depending on the total score) that should put their percentage around the same mark as the Bullants. With OG and Yarra losing that would catapault Rupo into second.
* Say Rupertswood win by 75 points (unlikely but stranger things have happened. BT haven't exactly set the world on fire in August) Assume the score is 150-75 (humor me).

RUPERTSWOOD 1759 for/1620 against 108.58%
BULLEEN-TEMP 1757 for/1619 against 108.52%

If Rupertswood win by about five goals, Yarra can jump over B-T with a win of about 65+ and a Geelong loss. This scenario would see Geelong miss out.
*Say Rupertswood win 100-70 and Yarra win 135-70
YARRA VALLEY 1651 for/1477 against 111.78%
BULLEEN-TEMPLESTOWE 1752 for/1569 against 111.66%

Geelong just have to win and Bulleen to lose for the OGs to finish second. If Rupo smash Bulleen as in the first scenario and Yarra and Geelong also win, the Bullants could drop to fifth. Unlikely, but hey, it's not as impossible as you wrote.

Ok, happy to say i did not do the maths except vaguely in my head, however stick by my statement that it realistically will not happen. I never said it was impossible.

Having said that, it still creates some intrigue. Good Post.
 
To ask for a post not alcohol fuelled is one of the most unreasonable requests i have witnessed on this thread. My major problem is that it seems i am restricted in the lenghth of my posts. If i go past the first page it cuts out, i've lost many classic KB yarns that have not hit this thread.

The game on Saturday was a ripper, to me No. 3 for Geelong was there best player. We restricted there goals, it was 5 - 3 at half time, mind you Og were 3-8 and missed opportunities. But i thought our pressure on there ball carriers was at it's highest all year. They kicked 8 in the third with a quarter similar to OC against us a couple of weeks ago. We barnstormed home with run and carry kicking 8 goals to 1. Whatever happens i do want to say that having been involved at Rupo since they started Junior u 10 14 years ago, the competition of D1 has been fantastic. A great, great competition, i have imo been priveleged. That's all i have room for. No cups of tea, just one stubbie.
 
Hi again. Mathematically a few things are possible. Intriguing....Yes. However OGS play Como pretty well and will beat Leos. I give this the DG 100% result guarantee.
Re the big game at Bulleen AA17. Did not notice Barton or who he played on. Sorry! DG was taking things a little easy at times. It was more the interested onlooker with hotdog and radio, rather than DG in real spy mode. Battle definately played on Matthews. Re the ruck duel, Waters was getting his hands on the ball early, however he did get worn down. I actully have a feeling it was another ruck option (guy who was called by initials, like TJ or something) who had a pretty good spring that rucked for part of the day. OC just had more run and numbers around the ball. Not sure if it was a ruck domination that influenced the turnaround, rather pace, youth and the bigger ground.
Cheers - DG
 
What a big round 18 it's shaping up to be! Old Carey have cemented their spot on top of the ladder, where they looked like being at the start of the year. All quiet on the Carey front and they look like having an ideal tune-up next week against Banyule. Possible D1 team selections: S Collins, Battle, Parton, White.

Despite losing three on the trot, the Bullants remain in second spot. Another tough game this week against Rupo and if they have a huge loss, the Bullants could drop out of the finals (true!). Possible D1 team selections: Chivers, Matthews, Burridge, Wise.

Disappointing loss for Old Geelong. Had it won from what I hear, before Rupo shook the big navy and white hooped monkey off their back. Now they've got to rely on Rupertswood winning to be able to snatch the double chance. Possible D1 team selections: Casboult, O'Brien, Bayles, Munro

Yarra Valley kept their noses ahead of Rupo in fourth, but can they find something extra if they play Bulleen or Carey? Have been beaten pretty convincingly by both the top two teams. Possible D1 team selections: A Drew, R Drew, Keem, Lecordier

If Rupertswood win next week, they are definitely deserving of a top four spot, as they would have beaten all of the other finals contenders. They could be the surprise packet of the finals. Possible D1 team selections: Sweeney, West, Monzell, Collins

Old Mentonians have nothing to play for, besides the best of the also-rans tag and the ability to put the final nail in Prahran's D2 coffin. Who knows what happened to the OMs this year? They have the talent to mix it with any team in the comp. Possible D1 team selections: Palmer, Cleeve, Carroll, Costello

Therry, quite obviously are a different team now, compared to the middle of the year, close loss against OGs, winning away against Bulleen-Templestowe and Rupertswood and despatching Banyule is pretty good recent form. They are a proud club and will be keen to knock off Yarra this week to finish the season off. Possible D1 team selections: J Bannister, Forster-Knight, Crotty, McWhinney

Emmaus St. Leo's have had their hearts broken again, three straight losses by seven points or less puts them squarely in the relegation mix and the will come out firing against Old Geelong, so they don't have to rely on other results. Possible D1 team selections: Ballard, McKenzie, Baranello, Leclerc

Prahran may be the ultimate get out of jail free team, how can a side go from 0-9 to possibly avoiding relegation? Superb effort if they can manage it. I can't see either St. Leo's or Prahran staying in D2 for more than a year. Possible D1 team selections: Harrison, Northway, Hodson, A Pitts

Banyule are gone and they look like they've had enough of footy for the year. haven't had a win since May (!) and they look set for another belting next week. Possible D1 team selections: Skicko, Gayfer, Tsingaris, Rothe.
 
Nice work MC-ED. You have come from nowhere to give us all a solid pre finals wrap, as well as some nice names for the quill to consider!

Re tipping ladder this week. We had 6 punters who failed to put in tips. Most of these were out of contention, so had probably just had enough!

TIPPING LADDER

MJS2 (3) 42
Is That So (3) 42

Bede Me Up (3) 41
Ugly Dermie (3) 41

Hansie (3) 40
DG-Man (1) 40 (Should not have rung G. Norman for advice on how to stay under control coming down the stretch!)

Bullant (2) 39

Henry (2) 38

Moss Rocket (3) 37

St.Kevs Cowboy (4) 36
Toohas (2) 36

Midas (2) 34

SSBob (2) 33

Magic Mickey (2) 31
Half Back (3) 31
OC37 (3) 31
Archangel17 (3) 31

KingBrown (2) 30
Knackers (2) 30
Blue Boys 88 (2) 30

OM28 (2) 28

ILSS (3) 27

Still tight at the top with 1 rd plus finals to come. St.Kevs Cowboy was the only 4/5 in a difficult tipping week. DG choked!

DG tips for rd 18

OC comfortably
BT just over Rupo
OGS to bounce back and send Leos to D2
Praharan to win and prove that miracles can happen.
YV at home over Therry to finish 4th

Cheers - DG
 
DG - completely agree with you - Leo's will be releagted. Another ***** poor effort on the weekend - in a winning position and through it away - again. Not mentally tough enough - pure and simple. That makes YV, Rupo and Prahran. We only needed to win one of them to be safe - and I would suggest we are in a lot of trouble. More injury woes for the animals - with a further depleted side against OG next week.

Prahran also had three injuries - all looked like hammies - but not sure how bad - or even who they were!!!

As you can all see from this post - I am genuinely *****ed off this Monday morning!!! We have far too much talent, and are far to proud to be getting relegated, however I fear this is the case - and my money is on us in D2 next year. If we can't win the close ones - then we don't deserve to stay up - pure and simple.
 
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