News Dan Houston traded to Collingwood

[HHHAMMERtime]

let’s hope this is a lesson to our trigger happy list management team:

IF we hadn’t been so gung-ho with trading our future first for absolute spuds the last few years we might have had an extra one to play with this year and we could have dealt it along with Houston for a top 5 pick and a late first rounder back. Getting us Draper/Smilie and another good player.

Our list management team seriously underrate future picks and it’s cost us this time.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Anyone want to do this comparison with Dan Houston

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Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

?

 

[Ford Fairlane]

Richmond could be the kingmakers

 

[Watto71]

I still can't understand how the fck someone thought a 30yr old would make this deal work
And a shit 30 yr old makes it worse

 

[Willsy10]

Well one thing I would have done was draft a KPD with an early draft pick. All this BS over many years coz we refused to do this during Hinkley's tenure.

This is true but we aren't alone in this space, most of the top picks are mids. Mids just have better strike rates early in the draft.

We haven't had many early picks too. And would've you rather we didn't pick Rozee, Butters, Bergman (plays tall in defence), Georgiades, etc? Lachie Jones was worth matching a bid in the first round too. Sinn is the only one in recent times that seems like a bit of a miss, but there is still hope.

We did draft Tom McCallum with our first pick 2 years ago but that was only pick 36 and he is now already delisted.

I don't necessarily think trading in for talls is a bad strategy either.

Contrary to popular belief i think we got good service from Dixon, good service from Ryder but would've been much better if it wasn't for the Essendon suspension, Lycett was okay, Allir has been great (KPD), Finlayson good considering what we gave up, McKenzie was serviceable too and cost us nothing.

I'm willing to give Esava another year, i think there is still hope for him. We were into Mckay too but he chose another route. It's not like we aren't trying to find solutions.

 

[simba_]

Stop talking about his girlfriend he's a grown man ffs it's his decision.

you stop talking about his girlfriend

 

[Ford Fairlane]

 

[Papa G]

Usually like Cripps but last 2 years is a big sign that he's been here too long

The 4D Chess these guys play in their own little fishbowl minds is amazing. The people that go by those draft rating numbers don't live in the real world. Trading should simply be based on what we lose, what we gain, how does it effect the team balance, structure, style now and/or in the future, does trading to Team A disadvantage us becasue they are a direct competitor for the phase we are in? Not Pick 37 plus pick 56 plus a future second equals 1564 points or whatever. That stuff is complete horseshit (unless to do with all that F/S Academy picks malarky). It's like they've all watched Moneyball and thought yeah this is the way you do it. Spoiler Alert, even in the movie Oakland didn't win the World Series.

 

[JimmyBC]

Richmond could be the kingmakers

This is smart by Richmond load up now while the rest of us wrestle over a spud lollapalooza when the Tas concessions hit.

 

[El_Scorcho]

Makes you wonder...

We play the long game. Genuinely fair at the trade table over the years when making a commitment to a player we want to bring into the club, or pay what we need to to get what we want when trying to move up the draft board.

Now when it's our turn to cash in a valuable commodity, we get reamed.

GTFO.

It's absolutely nuts that the club could have this attitude. If we keep being nice we'll get looked after on the way around, it's absolute bullshit.

But we never get looked after. We always slightly overpay. The only "bargain" big name trade we've gotten in memory is Ryder and that had some serious extenuating circumstances and we ended up losing him for a season to suspension after that.

With Bergman and Butters rumoured to be potentially looking to go home over the next few seasons, we absolutely can't set the standard that we're happy to be bent over at the trade table. Being reasonable traders is fine, but we have to have some standards and self respect.

 

[Shaucob_Burjan]

So Carlton finally coming to the Houston party

Source bro

 

[Willsy10]

Players never do, the club should have anticipated that. So who are you connected with at the club?

Haha, no connections at all here. I legit don't even know one person at the club. Just a supporter/club member.

 

[Us against the rest]

People saying that Carlton are going to the draft, I still have a feeling Houston may end up there, pushing Collingwood might end up being a way to get Dan to the Blues.
Not sure if still can work but I've always thought Carlton would be where he ended up.

 

[TazD]

Source bro

 

[TazD]

People saying that Carlton are going to the draft, I still have a feeling Houston may end up there, pushing Collingwood might end up being a way to get Dan to the Blues.
Not sure if still can work but I've always thought Carlton would be where he ended up.

How? They have pick 3 and they're not using it on Dan.

 

[Willsy10]

yeah if they weren't happy to even part with 12, they aren't parting with 3 for Houston.

 

[Minotaur2]

Makes you wonder...

We play the long game. Genuinely fair at the trade table over the years when making a commitment to a player we want to bring into the club, or pay what we need to to get what we want when trying to move up the draft board.

Now when it's our turn to cash in a valuable commodity, we get reamed.

GTFO.

That's the thing though - people never put long term interest over immediate gratification so neither should we. Everyone is looking out for what is best for them now so worrying about what player managers or other clubs will do in the future if we upset them is not worth it. They will always come back and deal with us again in the future when they have a need to regardless of what happened in the past. As they say you it is always worth betting on "self-interest" in a horse race because at least you know it is trying.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Carlton aren’t interested. They wouldn’t have gone to the fuss of trading for pick 3 when we would have accepted 12 and 14.

 

[chiwigi]

The 4D Chess these guys play in their own little fishbowl minds is amazing. The people that go by those draft rating numbers don't live in the real world. Trading should simply be based on what we lose, what we gain, how does it effect the team balance, structure, style now and/or in the future, does trading to Team A disadvantage us becasue they are a direct competitor for the phase we are in? Not Pick 37 plus pick 56 plus a future second equals 1564 points or whatever. That stuff is complete horseshit (unless to do with all that F/S Academy picks malarky). It's like they've all watched Moneyball and thought yeah this is the way you do it. Spoiler Alert, even in the movie Oakland didn't win the World Series.

Oakland not only doesn't win the World Series, but they cease to exist!

 

[Doctor Feel]

NOW I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT HIS GIRLFRIEND EVEN HARDER

 

[Papa G]

Oakland not only doesn't win the World Series, but they cease to exist!

Wrong Sport....

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

north trade f1 to GC for 13

North trade pick 2 to Richmond for 10 and 14

Dan Houston

5

Dan Houston

Age

27

Ht

186cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

18.2

5star

K

11.8

4star

HB

6.4

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

3.0

5star

MG

289.2

4star

D

17.6

4star

K

11.6

4star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

3.4

4star

MG

319.9

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.2

4star

M

7.0

5star

T

2.6

4star

MG

279.8

5star

to North for 13 and 14

Easy deal

North end up with pick 10 and Houston - losing a future pick and a downgraded first pick this year

Port end up with 13 and 14- just losing Houston

 

[Sneeky]

Media just general consensus that baker = 14 and bolt0n = 10/11 is ok, but houston for 13 and sanfl players is also ok, crazy

 

[longdonkey]

You seriously can't make this shit up!

to elaborate they said the board overruled it because of fan backlash.

 

[Wargreymon90]

Media just general consensus that baker = 14 and bolt0n = 10/11 is ok, but houston for 13 and sanfl players is also ok, crazy

I don’t think this is the case. The media are calling the previously proposed trade crap.